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10-27-2022 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
Agreed, totally disgraceful. I know a YUGE number of dems denied trumps win or said he was an illegitimate president and what seemed like a majority of dems supported violence via the BLM riots or the supreme court judges having people threatening them, but Trump knew better than to follow their play book.
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
I think you may have misunderstood what I said because of all of the echos in this echo chamber. The next time you have a few hours to waste google or YouTube dems saying trump is an illegitimate president. Biden, Hillary, Kamala, pelosi and the lost goes on of who jumped into the action of trying to convince people trump was illegitimate.

Trump did exactly what a huge % of dems did to him. I would argue their actions were worse since when 20+ politicians say the same thing even normal people believe them, but when one guy makes such a claim only the crazies believe him.
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# of dem election deniers >>>>>>>> # of repub election deniers


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I am not denying that some repubs think the 2020 election was rigged. I’m only saying trump used the dem playbook from when he won when they claimed his election was not
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Why didn’t you share the links that showed how many dems have “flirted” with questioning the integrity of an election? I assume the dems at least double up the repubs on this matter if anyone is keeping track.
Not all his posts on the matter but could be fun to keep a running tab for next time he says it again
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10-27-2022 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte
Im sorry I said ended instead of reduced. Interesting how now you’ve flipped to “well who knows how many people get droned” but when it helped your case you were confidently willing to assert that Trump droned less people than Obama. Even you got to see how this is just blatant dishonesty and propaganda, right? All that matters seems to be what you need to be true to win an argument at any given time.


Do you agree with my assertion that you spew propaganda because you consume trash media and lack critical thinking skills? Also I assume you’ll apologize for being wrong about others never apologizing? Surely you hold yourself to the same idiotic standards you hold others and this isn’t just a rhetorical strategy to avoid an argument you clearly are on the losing side of.
No I just call out the Hypocrisy of the left and as well the right. Though I am willing to engage you

What propaganda do I spew out?
I am not sure whom I apologizing to for being wrong. I think Cuepee one who does not like much of what I say will attest that I admit my mistakes, apologize and move on. I think Iam up to 5 As well I am open to changing my opinion when somebody provides a compelling argument such as Uke and Even Trolly . The most recent Voter Id


If you can show me a stat or link that says Trump droned more people than Obama fine ill admit I was wrong . I may have already done it as I have no clue how old the post was
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10-27-2022 , 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
No I just call out the Hypocrisy of the left and as well the right. Though I am willing to engage you

What propaganda do I spew out?
I am not sure whom I apologizing to for being wrong. I think Cuepee one who does not like much of what I say will attest that I admit my mistakes, apologize and move on. I think Iam up to 5 As well I am open to changing my opinion when somebody provides a compelling argument such as Uke and Even Trolly . The most recent Voter Id


If you can show me a stat or link that says Trump droned more people than Obama fine ill admit I was wrong . I may have already done it as I have no clue how old the post was
You admit SOME mistakes but you do not want to own how you are the most likely one here (outside maybe washoe) to be so easily swayed by RIGHT leaning talking points and spew them all as whatabouts. It is so easy for anyone to know when you watched something making that weird talking point connection.

And as I said, I think you learned that living in Alberta as you will be pretty isolated in many circles if you lean generally centre left (as I think you do and I do) and you are ever critical of the right without throwing in a sprinkle of left criticism too. You need to add a good dose of whatabouts or they will think you a left leaning commie or as they would tell me, "i should move to Vancouver to be with all the other Granola (nuts, fruits and flakes)' whenever i was too critical of the right.
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10-27-2022 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
No I just call out the Hypocrisy of the left and as well the right.
That might be how you see yourself, but nobody else does. You completely forget that Dems, republicans and YOU can all be hypocrites. The drone thing is a perfect example. You make a baseless claim and when corrected shift seamlessly into hOW cAn We trust the NuBeRZzz. You had no problem trusting them when you thought they helped your case. That’s grade A hypocrisy.


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If you can show me a stat or link that says Trump droned more people than Obama fine ill admit I was wrong . I may have already done it as I have no clue how old the post was
You originally made the claim that Trump droned less than Obama. What did you base that on?
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10-27-2022 , 10:06 PM
You cant know who droned more you dorks.
Assange and snowden exposed Obamas drone attacks.
And we know this though snowden and assange the people you call traitors! It was all secretive and probably still is. Black ops, you know?
100s if not 1000s of people alone in afghansitan got killed by drones in secret missions. How do you count that? Do you think they tell you know? give you a list with a count? lol You might as well believe in santa clause. Lozen is right you cant possibly know.

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10-27-2022 , 10:21 PM
https://armedforces.eu/air_forces/ranking_drones


offically the US has 334 or 30.5% of all armed battle drones in the world. I believe they have many more.
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10-27-2022 , 10:41 PM
by the way we killed about 50k civilians in afghanistan.
and we are still at war there. we pulled our people out, because now we have drones. We dont need boots on the ground.



Biden lied, the war is not over.

"only became public through whistleblowers" listen to this:


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10-28-2022 , 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
You admit SOME mistakes but you do not want to own how you are the most likely one here (outside maybe washoe) to be so easily swayed by RIGHT leaning talking points and spew them all as whatabouts. It is so easy for anyone to know when you watched something making that weird talking point connection.

And as I said, I think you learned that living in Alberta as you will be pretty isolated in many circles if you lean generally centre left (as I think you do and I do) and you are ever critical of the right without throwing in a sprinkle of left criticism too. You need to add a good dose of whatabouts or they will think you a left leaning commie or as they would tell me, "i should move to Vancouver to be with all the other Granola (nuts, fruits and flakes)' whenever i was too critical of the right.
Again what right wing leaning points do I fall for

Crime?
Border?
Fentanyl ?
Trump should go to jail?



I'm probably one of the few individuals that has voted for both the left and right

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10-28-2022 , 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Again what right wing leaning points do I fall for

Crime?
Border?
Fentanyl ?

I'm probably one of the few individuals that has voted for both the left and right
lozen,

FWIW, I don't think it is appropriate to put you and chillrob in the same bucket as bahbah. I obviously disagree with both of you on a lot of things, but I wouldn't say that either of you is incapable of acknowledging the potential merits of contrary viewpoints or adjusting your own viewpoints. bahbah has no interest in actual discussion. He is just here to amuse himself and troll the libs.

washoe is in his own category. He is more likely than any regular in this forum to have very troubling views five years down the road. Anything is possible for him because he is gullible, eager for affirmation, doesn't have his **** together, and thinks in a disorganized way, which is a textbook recipe for extremism.
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10-28-2022 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Again what right wing leaning points do I fall for

Crime?
Border?
Fentanyl ?
Trump should go to jail?



I'm probably one of the few individuals that has voted for both the left and right
You spout many right wing canards. Like democrats are hypocrites for impeaching Trump over an attempted secret solicitation of a bribe from Ukraine when Biden once reiterated the Obama administration’s official Ukraine policy. Your self perception as someone who’s capable of understanding when Dems are being hypocrites is laughable when you bite on such low rent propaganda.
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10-28-2022 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte
You spout many right wing canards. Like democrats are hypocrites for impeaching Trump over an attempted secret solicitation of a bribe from Ukraine when Biden once reiterated the Obama administration’s official Ukraine policy. Your self perception as someone who’s capable of understanding when Dems are being hypocrites is laughable when you bite on such low rent propaganda.
No I said Trump should have been censured for the Ukraine call. I did not support impeachment on that item I pointed out Biden blackmailed the Ukraine as well to get an outcome that was good for the US administration. Though Biden seems to say many things out loud that he shouldnt. I did support impeachment on Jan 6th though

Damn that list is long of all those right wing talking points I fall for.
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10-28-2022 , 07:33 PM
Lol at a sitting president asking for a campaign contribution to release tax payer money already approved by Congress not being impeachable. Bribery is literally the example of why impeachment and removal was written into the constitution according to Madison.

Biden simply stated US policy towards Ukraine publicly. Bringing it up in reference to what Trump did is completely FOS and it's easy to prove. Nobody complained about what Biden did, even though it was fully public, until Trump's attempted bribe and the right wing was scrambling to whatabout a false equivalence. You do realize what you're saying is both incredibly stupid, and a right wing talking point, right? I understand this makes you mad, but I'm a bold truth teller that calls out dems, republicans and Lozen when they are wrong, unlike you.
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10-28-2022 , 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
No I said Trump should have been censured for the Ukraine call. I did not support impeachment on that item I pointed out Biden blackmailed the Ukraine as well to get an outcome that was good for the US administration. Though Biden seems to say many things out loud that he shouldnt. I did support impeachment on Jan 6th though

Damn that list is long of all those right wing talking points I fall for.
I've called them out in real time as you say them and you have reacted to me doing so. So not sure why you are pretending that has never happened.

What will searching thru histories do in that regard? Will you say 'ok i was wrong and will no longer do that' or just hand wave it away? I generally make it a rule to not go search people posts for obvious things they said as the ask is a troll tactic. They know they said and just want to make you spend time searching so that when you find the proof they can laugh at you for doing so, ignore it or hand wave it away as meaningless. So why search for it when it will change nothing.

Give me something tangible in terms of what the search and proof would mean to you and I might take some time to find a bunch of examples from you.
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10-28-2022 , 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte
Lol at a sitting president asking for a campaign contribution to release tax payer money already approved by Congress not being impeachable. Bribery is literally the example of why impeachment and removal was written into the constitution according to Madison.

Biden simply stated US policy towards Ukraine publicly. Bringing it up in reference to what Trump did is completely FOS and it's easy to prove. Nobody complained about what Biden did, even though it was fully public, until Trump's attempted bribe and the right wing was scrambling to whatabout a false equivalence. You do realize what you're saying is both incredibly stupid, and a right wing talking point, right? I understand this makes you mad, but I'm a bold truth teller that calls out dems, republicans and Lozen when they are wrong, unlike you.
And moreso Biden was simply the official chosen to be the voice of US policy. He did not craft it. It came out of a republican lead bipartisan House committee recommendation and the Executive and also was delivered on behalf of many European allies. It could have been the Secretary of State, instead of Biden delivering that same message.

Lozen won't acknowledge that as he NEEDS to believe Biden is also at fault, even if less so. But he NEEDS his whatabout and the Breaking Points has specifically made that point so it feels right to him.
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10-28-2022 , 11:15 PM
Thanos 2024
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10-29-2022 , 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by washoe
You cant know who droned more you dorks.
Assange and snowden exposed Obamas drone attacks.
And we know this though snowden and assange the people you call traitors! It was all secretive and probably still is. Black ops, you know?
100s if not 1000s of people alone in afghansitan got killed by drones in secret missions. How do you count that? Do you think they tell you know? give you a list with a count? lol You might as well believe in santa clause. Lozen is right you cant possibly know.
dont forget this guy for exposing Obama. currently serving a 4 year sentence.

https://theintercept.com/2021/07/27/...ak-sentencing/

hes the guy who leaked documents that showed that 90% of the drone casualties were civilians. can you imagine if Russia had stats anywhere near this?
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10-29-2022 , 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte
Lol at a sitting president asking for a campaign contribution to release tax payer money already approved by Congress not being impeachable. Bribery is literally the example of why impeachment and removal was written into the constitution according to Madison.

Biden simply stated US policy towards Ukraine publicly. Bringing it up in reference to what Trump did is completely FOS and it's easy to prove. Nobody complained about what Biden did, even though it was fully public, until Trump's attempted bribe and the right wing was scrambling to whatabout a false equivalence. You do realize what you're saying is both incredibly stupid, and a right wing talking point, right? I understand this makes you mad, but I'm a bold truth teller that calls out dems, republicans and Lozen when they are wrong, unlike you.
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
And moreso Biden was simply the official chosen to be the voice of US policy. He did not craft it. It came out of a republican lead bipartisan House committee recommendation and the Executive and also was delivered on behalf of many European allies. It could have been the Secretary of State, instead of Biden delivering that same message.

Lozen won't acknowledge that as he NEEDS to believe Biden is also at fault, even if less so. But he NEEDS his whatabout and the Breaking Points has specifically made that point so it feels right to him.
ya Im sure Biden working to get rid of the prosecutor going after a company that is paying his son ungodly sums of money for no actual productive work was just a coincidence and really bc he was doing the bidding of a Republican committee.

the leaps you guys make to defend Dems is just amazing to watch.
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10-29-2022 , 09:03 AM
Thank you for the update on the Hunter situation. It is very important that you and others like you spend a considerable amount of time researching that topic and making it a key issue in the 2024 election cycle. Your country, and my pocketbook, needs you to do this, so know your role.

All the best.
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10-29-2022 , 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
dont forget this guy for exposing Obama. currently serving a 4 year sentence.

https://theintercept.com/2021/07/27/...ak-sentencing/

hes the guy who leaked documents that showed that 90% of the drone casualties were civilians. can you imagine if Russia had stats anywhere near this?
The truth is bad enough without the exaggeration. You play into the right's hands by saying stuff like this that can be hand waved away. It was one operation over 5 months and it was 90% non-targeted individuals. That doesn't mean all were civilians although no doubt many were. The only thing we know from this is that people whose guilt hasn't been determined are often considered acceptable collateral damage. That alone is terrible, whether they were actually civilians or not. From one third-party tracking, the percentage of civilians killed in drone strikes is more like 10-25%.

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.co...ects/drone-war

Let me be clear, I think the acceptable percentage is 0 but your hyperbole doesn't help anything.
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10-29-2022 , 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
I've called them out in real time as you say them and you have reacted to me doing so. So not sure why you are pretending that has never happened.

What will searching thru histories do in that regard? Will you say 'ok i was wrong and will no longer do that' or just hand wave it away? I generally make it a rule to not go search people posts for obvious things they said as the ask is a troll tactic. They know they said and just want to make you spend time searching so that when you find the proof they can laugh at you for doing so, ignore it or hand wave it away as meaningless. So why search for it when it will change nothing.

Give me something tangible in terms of what the search and proof would mean to you and I might take some time to find a bunch of examples from you.
I do believe that when a mistake is made I'll strive to do better posts are there .

It should be so easy though to point one out were I have not done that .

Please let's just point out my right wing talking points in the future as well . Though I do agree that
Men shouldn't compete against women
Crime is a problem
Border is bad
Congress is full of people that only care about money
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10-29-2022 , 09:43 AM
so whats with trump?


why is he not in jail, like you guys said 100000000000000000000
times?? how often have you said it? not even one single charge? eh?

if trump was a poker player he would be phil helmuth I think.
both are a bit obnoxious.

who do you like better helmuth or trump?
I think helmuth is much worse tbo. I dont like what he did at all.

Id drink a beer with both. But with helmuth I would watch my back more. Does helmuth have children? No huh?

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10-29-2022 , 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by washoe
so whats with trump?


why is he not in jail, like you guys said 100000000000000000000
times?? how often have you said it? not even one single charge? eh?


if trump was a poker player he would be phil helmuth I think.
a but obnoxious.



who do you like better helmuth or trump?
I think helmuth is much worse tbo.


Id drink a beer with both. But with helmuth I would watch my back more I think.

Yeah this baffles me as well. Now the excuse is were waiting till after the midterms.

Personally, I hope he is charged after the Midterms but will see. I think its a bad move to have him announce a run and than charge him but the Dems seem to be the king of bad campaign moves
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10-29-2022 , 09:49 AM
Is trump back on twitter now?
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10-29-2022 , 09:52 AM
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Yeah this baffles me as well. Now the excuse is were waiting till after the midterms.

do you get why they are waiting till after midterms? oh thats just an excuse you say...

I dont get the reason. they always say we got him but we are waiting, yeah, right! they dont have jackshit as per usual I think.
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