There is no "Republican" party anymore!
It's just a cult that worships Trump like a deity.
You don't need any more proof then when the Republican party decided they didn't need a new platform in 2020! They just support Trump!

https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-...support-2020-8

+1

But there will be a ton of folks that will either not vote or switch their votes

As a CDN if I was an American and my choice was Biden or Trump in 2024 Id stay home

Hopefully there will be a lot of your fellow Republican supporters that feel the same way.

Yes, yes, I know you're not right wing. LOL.

Doubtful Biden runs 2024. Should be a fun primary. Just keep Sanders out, had enough old people.

I'd vote for Trump if he is the nominee in 2024. I think one of the main differences between Trump haters and myself is that I don't take him seriously. I just think by nature he's a narcissist that likes to put on a show and excite his base. What is relevant is the underlying policies and I feel that the government should largely screw off and just let the market operate freely. I'm much more concerned by folks like AOC that want to implement policies that are socialistic and flip Capitalism / structure of our government on it's head.

Funny you think you still have a free market based economy .
U stop having it since 2008 …

Ho yes , please bring back Trump and his debts creation
!
It worked so well …..
No wonder he bankrupt 7 times in his personal life , let just give him the keys of the country so he can finish the job on a national scale he started in 2016 ….

I'll definitely be changing my official registration to Republican and voting in the Republican primaries and have told other sane people to do so. Whoever wins in Dem primaries will be fine and I'll have no problem voting for them in the general. I'll never vote for a republican in the general as the party is structured now but might as well mtry to push them in the sanest direction possible (if possible) in primaries.

Sick troll, sir, it's not like prez is an important job or something.

Hopefully, one of the Sklansky clan will run, so you can vote for them instead. Dave is pimping one of his cousins pretty hard for 2024.

I cast my vote for the the guy who is NOT an ignorant, mean, racist, delusional, narcissistic, pathological liar, & psychopath!

I kinda doubt if AOC stepped into office tomorrow for ~8yrs we'd come out the other side more 'socialist' than say during the fdr/post-fdr years of our grandparents. So you can probably stop worrying

+1

The right today don’t see how extreme they are now …..
Calling democrats socialist while they can’t even pass a universal health care Im like wtf .

Are they really calling the entire develop world socialist and communist because they have universal health care ????

Yes, universal healthcare is a socialist policy.

How would the government pay for universal healthcare? By taxing people and corporations more which would limit to growth of the economy. Companies would not be able to grow as fast and individuals couldn't start businesses as quickly etc. It also would reduce competition of the medical providers which would drive the price of healthcare up having a monopoly like effect.

Pretty sure needing to not take a president seriously to prefer him is not a quality we should be voting for.

Yeah that is why the US have the highest cost for healthcare in the world by almost double without even universal health care lol …
It’s so efficient.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...sts-by-country

And it create a better economy. That is why the US crumbling under 130% debt to gdp .
Because it makes the economy better and stronger not providing this service right ? They have the lowest tax since WW2 and I don’t see your economy getting better …..

Keep parroting …..

Maybe one day you will ask yourself , where the money they saved from tax (creating deficit that actually the normal people are stuck paying through inflation) is going beside doing buyback shares for example .
It’s so productive …..

Your absolutely right and it explain exactly why you would vote for a guy like trump .
More tax cut with more deficits !
A winning economic strategy ..

Anyway , the main point it’s not because one country used a « socialist » element it means they are socialist like it does not mean China is capitalist just because they use an economy based on capitalist …..

It takes more than 1 traits to describe a country but republicans are known to be binary thinking without any relativity .

Ps: be glad I left out the education disaster….

rekt

Trump didn't introduce a unique platform in 2016. The Republican Party was a collection of blood-guzzling demons BEFORE Trump ever ran for office. Trump is just a carnival barker/useful idiot to distract and titillate the rubes while the business interests behind the Republican Party continue to permanently thieve from the world's population and exacerbate the coming ecological crises in the process.

And we LOVE to see it, don't we folks?

lol omg

This is SO BIZARRE.

You really, genuinely think you and whatever handful of centrist never-Trump types you can cobble together are going to make a dent in the national Republican primary voter base?!?

Furthermore, considering it's hard to even imagine anybody other than Trump or Ron DeSantis winning the nomination, it seems like a waste of time, at absolute best, trying to determine which of those two is less insane and then voting for that person in a contest to win the nomination of a party that you dislike and to which you don't belong.

There are 50 million MAGA freaks frantically counting the seconds until they can sprint to the polls and vote for McCheeto Hitler again to own all their enemies, and you think you and a small merry band of principled GAME THEORY-STYLE voters are going to stop them? Congrats on getting Jeb Bush or Evan McMuffin or Ken Jennings or John Kasich 1.34% of the primary vote instead of 1.32%!

Blindingly easy.

We should take the money that is literally collecting dust in the ****ing basement of the Pentagon and spend it on the welfare of our citizens. We waste trillions, with a t, of dollars, on utterly unnecessarily military expenditures. I'm not even talking about the money we actually SPEND on our global war machine, although of course we should take that as well.

Also, I'm very interested in taking the blood money from Elon Musk, and Peter Thiel, and whichever desperate heir sucked up to Sheldon Adelson the most before he died, and re-allocating that to those in need, but I assume you're not with me on that one. Good news is, we don't need to go nearly that far for UHC.

Yeah, that seems to track.

https://www.cihi.ca/en/how-does-cana...ending-compare



Oh, wait...

I would never claim that Trump cares about things like wealth inequality or helping poor people, because he clearly doesn't, but this post reads as if Trump was the preferred candidate of Republican business interests from the moment he announced his candidacy. That's clearly revisionist history.

Almost all the traditional GOP establishment politicians like Paul Ryan and Lindsey Graham -- that is, the politicians who at the time most clearly represented Republican business interests and the military/industrial complex -- were openly working to prevent Trump from winning the GOP nomination in 2016. That's why it is so easy to find videos of those guys flaming Trump in early 2016. Trump won the primary despite opposition from GOP establishment politicians. That's largely because the idiot contingent among GOP primary voters, which was always substantial, was furious at people like Paul Ryan by the time of the 2016 GOP primary. They blamed the GOP establishment for eight years of Obama and a lot of other stuff. (You see the same thing with Democrats now, many of whom are more inclined to blame some combination of Hillary, Biden, and the DNC for the state of the country than they are to blame Republicans.)

GOP establishment politicians quickly fell in line behind Trump after he won the primary. But that didn't happen because they secretly supported Trump from the start. That happened because they are spineless and unprincipled.

I'm referring to his antics.

So your saying only the Dems care about the poor and are not military / Industrial hawks

Yes they trashed him in the primaries but there was trash talking by Harris as well about Joe. Its what you do and than you fall in line

I think both parties are to blame and many elected officials only care about one thing getting re-elected and padding their bank accounts

Your takeaway from my post is bizarre. I never claimed that Democrats were perfect. I was responding to a post that seemed to suggest that Trump was the preferred stooge of GOP business interests. Even if GOP business interests thought that Trump could be trusted to promote a GOP business agenda, he was not the preferred candidate of those interests.

Also, Harris never said anything as inflammatory about Biden as this:

May have interpreted it differently

No question what they said about Trump was bad . Though didn't Harris imply that Biden was a racist or was behind racist policies?

Sadly I think neither party really cares about the poor. Yes the Dems may care a little bit more but not much

BBB is a prime example of that

No. I think by voting in republican primaries I have has much control over the Republican nominee as I do over the democratic nominee by voting in Democratic primaries ie basically none. Since I’m pretty indifferent to the differences between Biden, Sanders Warren etc it makes more sense to vote for a sane candidate in the Republican Party that admits Biden won in 2020, doesn’t support overthrowing election results etc.

The statistics you point out just show that there is a problem with the costs of our healthcare, which I agree with. The dollar values shown do not address why Americans pay more. We pay for medicare which is essentially a socialist program and front costs for research and development of prescription drugs which other countries are not doing at the same levels. Obviously there are many other factors that contribute to this problem.

What I'm saying is that we should not default to addressing this problem by implementing a socialist policy which is Universal Healthcare. There are other ways that we can lower our costs. People who advocate for Universal Healthcare want to give control to the same people (the government) who made us trillions dollars in debt. Everything the government touches gets mismanaged and corrupted. If you hand over the keys to them your choices are now limited and you will greatly reduce the number of medical providers who can potentially enter the market and act as disrupters who can freely innovate and drive prices down.