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08-05-2021 , 07:41 PM
Donald Trump wants his supporters to carry 'Trump Cards'



Trump's PAC asked supporters in an email on Wednesday to choose which "Trump Card" design they wanted. Save America PAC

- Donald Trump said he wanted his supporters to carry "Trump Cards."

- Trump's PAC sent an email on Wednesday asking supporters to choose their favorite design.

- The cards are emblazoned with the former president's signature in gold lettering.

"The card you select will be carried by Patriots all around the Country," the first email said. "They will be a sign of your dedicated support to our movement to SAVE AMERICA, and I'm putting my full trust in you."

The Trump team said in a follow-up email, "We're about to launch our Official Trump Cards, which will be reserved for President Trump's STRONGEST supporters."



...The "Trump Card" is the group's latest fundraising merchandise. In an email on July 26, it announced it was selling signed photos of Trump for $45.
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08-05-2021 , 07:46 PM
Does anyone not believe that until Trumps dying day he will be trying to fleece that very last dollar from anyone who still remembers him and supports him?

He will be doing his own 'buy now' infomercials with a timer ticking down for 'your last chance to buy all things 'Trump'.

He is nothing more than an over achieving used car huckster salesman crossed with a con artist.
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08-06-2021 , 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
While i broadly agree with these posts i think it still needs to be recognized and acknowledged that the reason we ended up with a Trump is because the voters perception of politicians over all became so tainted and expectations so lowered that many just do dismiss things as 'they are all corrupt, so, so what'.

The degree (and Trump is much worse) stopped mattering to most.

Same with all the themes Trump played upon such as Fake News. Trump distorted it but did not create it. Fake news, especially amongst MSM was something that people were recognizing and already skeptical of. Trump just fanned those flames and distorted them to his own benefit.
Absolutely agree - the mess that the US (and Canada to a much lesser extent thus far) is in politically, predates Trump. This has been building for some time; the sharp divisiveness of politics appears to be getting worse all the time. Trump dumped a shitload of accelerant on to an existing fire.

This is gold - both figuratively and literally (the colour, that is - I'm sure no real gold was harmed in this grift, but Donnie will be happy to accept some). First of all, the "Trump Card" thing is a little bit clever. I mean, pretty obvious as well, and if they've never used this before they're a little slow to the party, but it still made me chuckle a bit like I would for a good dad joke. And it's more great marketing/grifting. But it's also fairly sinister when you read things like "The card you select will be carried by Patriots all around the Country". Once you get past the comedy and having a laugh at the dummies getting grifted, the increasing tribalism this is promoting is...unsettling.

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Originally Posted by Cuepee
Does anyone not believe that until Trumps dying day he will be trying to fleece that very last dollar from anyone who still remembers him and supports him?
Aside from the people actually being fleeced, I'd hope that everyone understands that. I'm sure lots of his supporters do, but they're good with it because it supports their tribe, or something.
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08-06-2021 , 03:44 AM
Ooh where can i get this? This would go perfectly with my full tilt poker black card .
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08-06-2021 , 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
This is gold - both figuratively and literally (the colour, that is - I'm sure no real gold was harmed in this grift, but Donnie will be happy to accept some). First of all, the "Trump Card" thing is a little bit clever. I mean, pretty obvious as well, and if they've never used this before they're a little slow to the party, but it still made me chuckle a bit like I would for a good dad joke. And it's more great marketing/grifting. But it's also fairly sinister when you read things like "The card you select will be carried by Patriots all around the Country". Once you get past the comedy and having a laugh at the dummies getting grifted, the increasing tribalism this is promoting is...unsettling.
I agree. Like a lot of things Trump does, this would seem more insidious if it wasn't so ham-handed and stupid.

The idea of a card that "patriots" can flash to each other privately to confirm that they are "patriots" is unsettling.
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08-06-2021 , 09:25 AM
The grandest of ironies being that in Trumps 2016 run versus Hillary (or was it the GOP primaries?), if I recall it correctly, he proclaimed to the world and the voters across the board he was trying to court that he was so rich that unlike other politicians he would need no outside money. He would fund it all himself.

Turns out that he, more than any other politician that proceeded him in fact needed every drop of outside money he could get and not just for his campaign but to prop up his personal life. This seems evident as reports now come out that he chose to run, not thinking he could win in 2016, but with the hope it could put some juice on his failing Trump brand and allow him to replace his lost Apprentice Money that had come in timely prior to save his flailing brand.
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08-06-2021 , 11:47 AM
Trump Card=Chump Card
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08-06-2021 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
I agree. Like a lot of things Trump does, this would seem more insidious if it wasn't so ham-handed and stupid.

The idea of a card that "patriots" can flash to each other privately to confirm that they are "patriots" is unsettling.
Yeah, I guess those red caps were a bit too subtle.

This is sadly almost brilliant for whoever dreamed it up. This would seem to make you feel like a bona fide member of the club once you have it in your possession. Probably a bond too strong to break at that point--not that it likely wasn't already for almost everyone who falls for it.
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08-06-2021 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Ames
Yeah, I guess those red caps were a bit too subtle.

This is sadly almost brilliant for whoever dreamed it up. This would seem to make you feel like a bona fide member of the club once you have it in your possession. Probably a bond too strong to break at that point--not that it likely wasn't already for almost everyone who falls for it.
Unfortunately for Trump, it coincidentally looks like this Nazi symbol and surely that will hurt sales amongst his base .... right?

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08-06-2021 , 04:58 PM
Meh his supporters are more familiar with the 1$ bill than a nazi symbol.
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08-06-2021 , 09:36 PM
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08-06-2021 , 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
Unfortunately for Trump, it coincidentally looks like this Nazi symbol and surely that will hurt sales amongst his base .... right?


Ha I thought I was the only one making this connection. I’m sure it’s not a coincidence.

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08-06-2021 , 09:50 PM
Hey shifty how you think your going to pay the debts without inflation ?

Unless debts isn’t important anymore ?

It’s all good to blame , but if you do t have any alternatives whats the point ?

Trump did create 1 trillion deficit with tax cut btw , where was the importance of debt then ?
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08-06-2021 , 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
Unfortunately for Trump, it coincidentally looks like this Nazi symbol and surely that will hurt sales amongst his base .... right?

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Originally Posted by Da_Nit
Ha I thought I was the only one making this connection. I’m sure it’s not a coincidence.
When you're a hammer, all you see are nails.
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08-06-2021 , 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Proffett
When you're a hammer, all you see are nails.

Are you saying Trump and his cronies are over reliant on racist innuendo that the base loves?

Which one did you get?
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08-07-2021 , 06:24 AM
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Trump is planning much more reasonable coup next time


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08-07-2021 , 07:19 AM
This was one of my favorite Trump episodes. Early 2020, every house Republican has his back during the first impeachment. No defections, they were his soldiers.

Also the 2020 election is less than a year away for everyone. So Trumps campaign calls a bunch of house republicans. ‘Thanks for the support guys.’ But Trumps campaign was not calling to give them money for their races as every other president has done in the history of American politics. They called to ask for a maximum donation to trumps campaign from their own campaign funds to show their loyalty.
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08-07-2021 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Proffett
When you're a hammer, all you see are nails.
I would say Trump and his cronies count on that which you say being the case in their base. Regardless of the other interpretations one might see in that, they know it signals more than enough for the hammers (his base) to see and believe exactly what they want in it (the nails).

So on this rare instance we 100% agree.
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08-07-2021 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
I would say Trump and his cronies count on that which you say being the case in their base. Regardless of the other interpretations one might see in that, they know it signals more than enough for the hammers (his base) to see and believe exactly what they want in it (the nails).

So on this rare instance we 100% agree.
You honestly think that the Trump Eagle card looks like that Nazi symbol you posted?

I know what you're doing and it makes total sense. As long as you can link all Trump supporters with Nazis, no matter how tenuous the argument, you don't have to debate anymore. Cuepee's side is good, the other side is bad. They're all nazis. Why even entertain a conversation with Nazis? Just crush the opposition by any means, they are evil.
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08-07-2021 , 01:56 PM
Ofc it looks like the nazi eagle. Fix your bifocals ffs
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08-07-2021 , 01:57 PM
I believe that the two eagles are closely matched. And I don't think QP or anyone is linking ALL Trump supporters with Nazism. But I do suspect that certain "clans" that are going to be obtaining the cards will say "Heck yeah, I want the Aryan Eagle one"
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08-07-2021 , 02:24 PM
The eagle is a pretty common symbol. Sure it was used by the Nazi party in the form of the Parteiadler ("eagle of the party"), but it has long history both before (the Roman eagle for example) and after that. Germany still uses the eagle in the form of the Bundesadler ("eagle of the federation"). The bald-headed eagle is also an historic and important American symbol.

The primary purpose of the card is more likely to compile lists of the people willing to order it and carry it, rather than be some grand gesture to Nazis. Such lists will be valuable for political campaigns, both to use directly when campaigning and indirectly as bargaining chips.
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08-07-2021 , 02:37 PM
No way to know if it was a conscious decision to make those Trump cards resemble Nazi symbolism but if you don’t see the similarities you are blind or in denial. Also yes Trump and his supporters have many similarities ti Nazism.
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08-07-2021 , 02:39 PM
Not all eagles are created equal
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08-07-2021 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by tame_deuces
The eagle is a pretty common symbol. Sure it was used by the Nazi party in the form of the Parteiadler ("eagle of the party"), but it has long history both before (the Roman eagle for example) and after that. Germany still uses the eagle in the form of the Bundesadler ("eagle of the federation"). The bald-headed eagle is also an historic and important American symbol.

The primary purpose of the card is more likely to compile lists of the people willing to order it and carry it, rather than be some grand gesture to Nazis. Such lists will be valuable for political campaigns, both to use directly when campaigning and indirectly as bargaining chips.
Most of the uses of that symbol through history have it looking to the left. The Nazi one and the Trump one have it looking to the right.

In particular, when used as the US national symbol, it always appears looking to the left:

https://www.google.com/search?q=e+pl...n-GBGB909GB909

I'm not suggesting for one second that Trump is smart enough or cognizant enough of history to come up with evocative Nazi imagery himself, but he has/had people around him (Bannon, Miller, Gorka) who certainly are.

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