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05-11-2021 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
i usually find these guys pretty fair and balances, since lozen (I think it was him) introduced me to them.

However on 'Russiagate' I find they are doing exactly what they spend so much time being critical of Main Stream media for doing.

I am putting no value or weight as to whether they are right or wrong in their position. That is not my point here.

The issue is that they since they took the position that the 'Russiagate was entirely a hoax the left fell for and won't admit it', and they love to laugh at the 'Mueller report and presentation' as their proof, they have entirely ignored (that I can see) anything regarding the Senate Report and recent Court Ruling that both established there is some 'there, there'.



Again my point here is not to suggest anyone has to side on either side of 'was their collusion' but no one should argue that there was not reason to investigate.

In fact it would be the height of insanity if the FBI and then Mueller did not investigate the very clear connections even if only to clear them.
These two are complete crap and have been for some time.

Like do they ever, and I mean ever, actually have the story? Or is it always just questions and speculations about the work other journalists have done? And usually presented in a misleading way at that.

'Cause I for sure have never seen it if they have.
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05-11-2021 , 05:57 PM
Interesting. But I know we all have our perspective and I know a person who is a very partisan Trumper who hates them and one who is hyper progressive who hates them.

I find them pretty centrist and thus think they typically ask the right questions of both sides that I am interested in.

But you are right in that they (and most internet news channels) do not generate much (if any) of their news content and instead it is mostly running commentary on how others find, select and portray their news.

i think that is a budget thing. No big network money.
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05-12-2021 , 12:08 AM
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05-12-2021 , 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by vinivici9586
this is up there with craziest **** he's ever said

Is this real?
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05-12-2021 , 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by TeflonDawg
Is this real?
Yes, it is real.
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05-12-2021 , 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
There has to be some better insult-fodder than Trump basically saying, "This is why we can't have nice things" in regards to a horse jacked up on PEDs in what can only be described as a sacred institution of American culture.

You guys don't have to try so hard to keep this thread alive.

I don't blame you so much as whoever this Aaron Rupar is.

Is he... is he aware that even sports where the primary competitors are animals are also bound by a certain level of decorum?
Are you real?
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05-12-2021 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
Interesting. But I know we all have our perspective and I know a person who is a very partisan Trumper who hates them and one who is hyper progressive who hates them.

I find them pretty centrist and thus think they typically ask the right questions of both sides that I am interested in.

But you are right in that they (and most internet news channels) do not generate much (if any) of their news content and instead it is mostly running commentary on how others find, select and portray their news.

i think that is a budget thing. No big network money.
ill take these two for honest news over the crap that comes out of CNN, MSNBC and Fox. I still will watch Chris Wallace and Chuck Todd on Sundays.
Heck now MSNBC and CNN are massively focused on Liz Chaney and that's about it.
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05-12-2021 , 04:29 PM
Curious to see how relevant these '100' are in todays GOP.

More than 100 Republicans, including former governors and lawmakers, are threatening to form a third party if the GOP doesn't split from Trump

- More than 100 Republicans are threatening to form their own party if the GOP doesn't renounce Trump.
- The group includes former governors, members of Congress, and a Bush-era Cabinet secretary.
- They plan to release a letter on Thursday.

More than 100 Republicans say they will leave their party and form a new one if it doesn't split from former President Donald Trump.

The group, which includes former governors and lawmakers, plans to release a letter outlining the threat on Thursday.

The preamble to the statement, published by The New York Times, says: "When in our democratic republic, forces of conspiracy, division, and despotism arise, it is the patriotic duty of citizens to act collectively in defense of liberty and justice."
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05-12-2021 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
There has to be some better insult-fodder than Trump basically saying, "This is why we can't have nice things" in regards to a horse jacked up on PEDs in what can only be described as a sacred institution of American culture.

You guys don't have to try so hard to keep this thread alive.

I don't blame you so much as whoever this Aaron Rupar is.

Is he... is he aware that even sports where the primary competitors are animals are also bound by a certain level of decorum?
Breaking or bending the rules to get ahead/whatever other reason is something that would definitely fall under the heading--the American Way And conservatives as well as trump himself are no strangers to the concept either. Though so is acting all self-righteous/above it You're just not supposed to get caught.
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05-12-2021 , 07:12 PM
In a year from now, the odds are that Trump will be facing civil lawsuits, criminal charges, and financial pressure to repay massive loans. Additionally, his physical health will probably be worse and his mental health (both psychological & neurological) will continue to deteriorate.

At that point, will he still be the leader/fuhrer of the former Republican party?
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05-12-2021 , 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by tame_deuces
Yes, it is real.
*junkie

Who knew he'd advocate for universal healthcare as his heart bleeds for the apparent drug addiction of a race horse!

Did Bob Baffert come from Mexico?
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05-13-2021 , 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Lunkwill
In a year from now, the odds are that Trump will be facing civil lawsuits, criminal charges, and financial pressure to repay massive loans. Additionally, his physical health will probably be worse and his mental health (both psychological & neurological) will continue to deteriorate.

At that point, will he still be the leader/fuhrer of the former Republican party?
Yes, he honestly represents what that party has become.

My question is, will any registered member of the GOP be on the no fly list by then ?
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05-13-2021 , 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
Curious to see how relevant these '100' are in todays GOP.

More than 100 Republicans, including former governors and lawmakers, are threatening to form a third party if the GOP doesn't split from Trump

- More than 100 Republicans are threatening to form their own party if the GOP doesn't renounce Trump.
- The group includes former governors, members of Congress, and a Bush-era Cabinet secretary.
- They plan to release a letter on Thursday.

More than 100 Republicans say they will leave their party and form a new one if it doesn't split from former President Donald Trump.

The group, which includes former governors and lawmakers, plans to release a letter outlining the threat on Thursday.

The preamble to the statement, published by The New York Times, says: "When in our democratic republic, forces of conspiracy, division, and despotism arise, it is the patriotic duty of citizens to act collectively in defense of liberty and justice."
They're just mad that Trump says the naughty parts out loud.
Where are they gonna go ? It's the party they created.

Although, to be fair, the Democratic party is more conservative than the old GOP. We could just stop the charade and be a one party state with Biden as president for life.

I mean, nothing would fundamentally change.
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05-13-2021 , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by RFlushDiamonds
They're just mad that Trump says the naughty parts out loud.
Where are they gonna go ? It's the party they created.

Although, to be fair, the Democratic party is more conservative than the old GOP. We could just stop the charade and be a one party state with Biden as president for life.

I mean, nothing would fundamentally change.
I don't think they really care where they go.

I just think there are some old guard Republican's who don't like being pushed out of their own party and will not accept being irrelevant.

The Lincoln Party has shown there is a lot of money in the 'Be a spoiler to Trump movement'. Not as much as Trump Republicans or Dems will get but sizeable nonetheless and that money is there solely for them as long as they keep the 'opposition' alive.

I could see them exploring if there is a desire to take that to the next level. And by explore I mean, can they get enough donations to enrich themselves while harrying Trump Republicans from their more vulnerable flanks.


I am not suggesting it will happen but I think if these guys see there is money for them to try, they might well do it.


Ideally if they want to raise money from true 'Never Trumpers' they would look at mainly 'swing State voters' where there is a high percent of 'meh to Trump and his message over all but who just cannot stomach voting for Democrats. Maybe that is 10-20 seats Nationwide. And they focus on trying to win those seats with very old school GOP messaging. They say they are using this is a test ground to potentially launch a new nationwide party. They know the latter won't happen but it gives them more legitimacy to get on the nightly news.

Of course their goal is simply to 'spoil' it for just enough Trump candidates such that they cannot win the midterms or GE.

And if they can show they have any reasonable chance of 'spoiling it' we have seen, via the Lincoln Project' that there is lots of money to be had.

Don't believe in the plan... believe in the grift.
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05-14-2021 , 01:02 AM
I still chuckle sometimes thinking about how the stable genius passed on an easy billion dollars straight to his pocket selling $30 MAGA masks. What a maroon.
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05-14-2021 , 01:23 AM
TFG he is stupid. Imagine if he wasn't stupid?
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05-14-2021 , 01:35 AM
Honestly. He would have made that billion and moonwalked to re-election.
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05-14-2021 , 08:51 AM
I think post election Trump Media was the slam dunk for him.

He should have launched across all forums, Satellite to compete with Sirius, Internet Properties, and TV.

Launched his network by giving equity to a few big names who would be enticed to join him (maybe Tucker, Hannity, Lou Dobbs or Judge G, etc) in the way Howard Stern was enticed to join Sirius and use that equity to acquire a bunch of Internet and terrestrial properties in the space.

You only need 1% of the population to tune in to any given media for it to be the highest rated in the US and for that Media form to be fabulously successful. Fox gets 1% at its peak times.

I think Trump media drawing from the ~15-25% of the country that are hardcore Trump supporters could have launched with far more than that 1%.

Problem is, as you guys say, Trump is a terrible business man. I am sure this was pitched to him but since he is known to be a guy who cannot share power or a voice with any type of Board or Business partners or advisors and he runs everything like his personal piggy bank and eventually bankrupts them no matter how lucrative (who bankrupts casinos? lol) thus a ton of money would not join him on this unless he was absolutely locked up to some form of compliance via an airtight agreement.
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05-14-2021 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
I still chuckle sometimes thinking about how the stable genius passed on an easy billion dollars straight to his pocket selling $30 MAGA masks. What a maroon.
Yup and he fired the guy that told him to do that
I bet he could have had them all wearing the masks at rallies after the mask mandate ended.
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05-14-2021 , 01:15 PM
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Shielding Trump from extradition if he's indicted is an actual thing people are working on

https://news.yahoo.com/shielding-tru...054046679.html
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05-14-2021 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
Honestly. He would have made that billion and moonwalked to re-election.
There is just no way Trump could have easily won re-election. He barely won the first time and had an opponent with much lower negatives this time around.

He also did take in well over a billion through his various grifts.
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05-14-2021 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Yup and he fired the guy that told him to do that
I bet he could have had them all wearing the masks at rallies after the mask mandate ended.
And they wouldn't have been so easy to arrest after they broke in.
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05-15-2021 , 05:22 AM
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Trump just created something he should be afraid of

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05-15-2021 , 05:38 AM
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Five months after Suzanne Morphew vanished without a trace,
a mail-in ballot for the 2020 election had been submitted under her name.

“I just thought, give him… another vote.
I figured all these other guys are cheating.”

Husband Charged in Wife’s Murder Also Used Her Name to Vote
https://www.thedailybeast.com/barry-...uzanne-morphew
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05-17-2021 , 12:40 PM
https://www.axios.com/off-the-rails-...d5eb3c6e2.html

They stories of his incompetence and his willingness to sacrifice American prosperity and security might never end.
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