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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
Congress has better things to be doing, and their role really isn't bringing justice to perpetrators.
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
If you want to talk about limiting executive power, go for it... nothing you do to Trump will stop the next bad POTUS.
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
Goofy, you're never going to get any justice from a political process. it's a pretty strong argument you don't want politics involved with justice, which is why most people look skeptically at a person like Barr who seemed to be operating politically rather than an interest of justice. You want justice to be apolitical. Second, if you want want to limit executive power, have Congress try and pass a law instead of trying to send somebody to jail.
You keep acting like this is all about sending Trump to jail and "getting justice" and multiple posters keep stating, directly, that this is about preventing the completely f'd up event that just happened at the Capitol
Do you not agree that this is about preventing the completely f'd up event that just happened at the Capitol?
While you may be correct that some people "want justice" and to see Trump in jail, others are more interested in preventing such a horrible event from happening again...That has nothing to do with political motivation. It has to do with an interest in preventing loss of life in terms of the violent event that transpired and the broader implication that a President's behavior actually matters, lest you care not for the fact that if something like that happens again, anyone,
anyone can blend in with that crowd and blow themselves up at any number of points during said event. Any one of those in the mob could have pulled out weapons and slaughtered every politician in the building. People were literally chanting some disturbing things that implied a desire for further violence. People had weapons on them. Cops were
beaten with the American flag. People had plastic cuffs on them. Others were trampled to death. Hundreds of people sustained injuries. Someone lost an eye...
It would be nice if action was taken so that the very person who catalyzed it is never given the chance to repeat history, and precedence set for all in the future to not feel so emboldened by the lack of consequence for someone who wields so much power. That event could have been much, much worse than it turned out to be. Some of those members of Congress actually thought they were going to die that day and no longer trust other members of Congress as well. I would argue that if he had been convicted in the first impeachment, or removed on day 1 for what he's been in violation of from day 1, the Emoluments Clause, then none of this would have happened, no injuries, and those 5 people would be alive today