https://www.wsj.com/articles/while-t...al-11564059627

Analysts at the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency say North Korea’s scientists may have produced 12 nuclear weapons since the first Trump-Kim meeting in Singapore last year. In total, Pyongyang could currently possess between 20 and 60 nuclear bombs, according to estimates by various security analysts.

President Trump has played down evidence gathered by security analysts that North Korea is continuing its nuclear operations, saying in a recent televised interview that Kim “promised he wouldn’t do it.”

Why aren’t you including jus sanguines? Seems pretty arbitrary not to.

Only media coverage I have seen is the odd article that this and that person catered to the qanon crowd, and I read 3-4 newspapers daily.

Not that I am surprised that some pundits go that route. People who enjoy outlandish conspiracy theories are literally the perfect followers for a social media enterprise.

You mean what are the arguments against the claims that Mueller was actually investigating hillary all along, that mccain killed himself to avoid being indicted by Mueller, that everything is a secret code, that jfk jr is alive and well and posting about the deep state on twitter?

I have to admit that my expectations for a Trump presidency was low, but the absolutely staggering incompetence of this administration on foreign relations is incredible.

And US competence in that arena had already dropped to dangerous levels. You have the finest analysts and researchers in the world, but they have been increasingly sidelined for a few decades now.

It's also bad news. A lot of the US' standing in the world is based on diplomatic relations. I forget the name, but as one political scientists said it "you can not be a superpower without being trustworthy" (heavily paraphrased). The meaning of the quote is that being a superpower is also something others let you be, it is a position impossible to attain with only force.

If you do a google news search you see hundreds.

People generally have way more problem with "arbitrary" than they should, or at least they overuse it as a criticism. Children being automatic citizens where their parents are citizens doesn't seem like ethno-nationalism to me, just keeping families together. Separating families is bad.

Legus sanguinus is about being a citizen where your ancestors come from. It's about re-uniting your blood with its homeland. Seems like ethno-nationalism.

Neither should be a thing though and wouldn't be without the evil of Nationalism.

Google news is personalized, so it is partially based on your interests and Google history.

About how this has become some sort of phenomenon. The mainstream argument seems to be that it is a hoax but if it is a hoax why does it get so much play in the media?

(Yeah yeah--because it is a good story or something. Ok sure).

No. An actual google news search where you search google news. Not whatever feed google gives you.

Like this.

Wouldn't your normal position be that getting a lot of attention from the mainstream media makes it more likely that it is a hoax?

It would be that it is disinformation/psy-op/propaganda campaign--which is what I believe qanon to be--something coming from more official places.
What I don't think it is is kids in their mom's basement. (Which would be the hoax theory).

Real journalism is dead (for the most part), you should skeptical of anything you read. Most of the major publications still have some credibility, but by and large, they just report each others news, with out really independently confirming it, while editorializing in one way, or another.

Is that your news.google.com search result for "qanon"? It's not what I get when I do that search.

It is. And interesting. What do you get then?
*actually no.
News.google.com had a slightly different look but most of the same stories.
That is my look from clicking the news tab after googling qanon.

Kids in their mom's basement are the biggest media stars on the planet these days.

Okay admittedly, they probably grow a bit older as they go and move out along the way, but the point remains. People savvy on social media are currently among (if not the most) powerful influencers on the planet.

All searches on google are personalized, unless you have some very specific privacy settings. Big data likes people in the bubble, because they are more predictable there there and predictable people are easier to sell to and show ads to.

My search results look fairly different from yours, I see a lot of articles about which politicians have catered to the Qanon crowd. It could also be down to localization of course, I'm not American.

I rarely use Google for news however.

Of the top 10 or so one of yours was included (NPR - Murder Suspect Was Under a Pro-Trump Delusion). I think that was it, but in my top ten now the one about tainting justice they seek and the ABC mob boss one are there too, but the order is different, a Vanity Fair article comes in 3rd, and a Guardian article comes in 5th.

Hey wanna know a great way to independently verify a document like the Steele dossier...?

The fisa warrant did say that steele was conducting opposition research to try to discredit the trump campaign. So #1 is false

So someone writes a dossier and then get a fisa warrant to see if it is valid or not is how the system should work in your view? Scary.

Well we will find out fairly soon if and to what extent the FISA process was abused. Reports are the DOJ IG (Obama appointee btw) is set to come out with a report soon and supposedly he interviewed Steele.

I’m pretty amazed at the general support among liberals for the FISA Courts which are secret courts intended basically to target foreign nationals operating in the USA and not USA citizens. I find the whole idea of courts operating in secret pretty disturbing and risky being ripe for abuse, always have.

So what racist thing did Trump say today?

its one thing to not want FISA courts to exist, but its another dumber thing to think that they spied on the trump campaign unlawfully based on right wing propaganda.

i mean most of this is coming from the sean spicer era, in which he made the claim(straight from faux news talking heads) that the obama administration spied using the gchq, and then the US had to issue a formal apology to the UK about that lie.

But we do know from the redacted version that it was disclosed that steele was conducting oppositon research. So that statement was false