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05-21-2024 , 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by lozen
So since Cohen admitted he stole from the Trump organization can they charge him still?
not 100% sure but that admission might have happened a while ago when Cohen plead guilty to a bunch of stuff, did some jail and so on, he might already have gone through that
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05-21-2024 , 10:22 AM
“Industrial strength significantly increased ... driven by the creation of a unified Reich.”

the video asserts that Mr. Trump would deport 15 million migrants in a second term

spent recent months echoing Hitler while lashing out at immigrants, complaining that
immigration is “poisoning the blood of our country” and describing migrants as “vermin.”

continues to raise the prospect of building new detention camps

he is telling America exactly what he intends to do if
he regains power: rule as a dictator over a ‘unified reich,’

“Parroting ‘Mein Kampf’ while you warn of a bloodbath if you lose.

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05-21-2024 , 10:44 AM
From the thread itself, the "unified reich" thing was from ww1



NYT confirms

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/20/u...ich-video.html

Trump Posts, Then Takes Down, Video Online With Headlines About a ‘Unified Reich’
The 30-second video shared from Donald Trump’s Truth Social account includes World War I-era newspaper clippings alongside fictional headlines presuming a Trump victory in November.
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05-21-2024 , 11:51 AM
Is the fact that trump refuses to speak in his own defence something that the prosecution can bring up in closing arguments?
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05-21-2024 , 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
not 100% sure but that admission might have happened a while ago when Cohen plead guilty to a bunch of stuff, did some jail and so on, he might already have gone through that
It's hard to believe that he wouldn't have taken the 5th there if he had not already been granted immunity for that somewhere along the trail.
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05-21-2024 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by davmcg
Is the fact that trump refuses to speak in his own defence something that the prosecution can bring up in closing arguments?
No the prosecutor cannot comment on his lack of testifying.
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05-21-2024 , 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Ames
It's hard to believe that he wouldn't have taken the 5th there if he had not already been granted immunity for that somewhere along the trail.
Could be wrong but from what i read, Cohen had actually promised to testify against Trump if/when it was time to do so, as part of his plea bargain when he pleaded guilty.
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05-21-2024 , 12:24 PM
There are about four dozen prisons in New York.

Can we start picking our Bingo squares of where Trump is going to end up? This thread and this post time stamps me for picking,

Five Points Correctional Facility
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05-21-2024 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ladybruin
There are about four dozen prisons in New York.

Can we start picking our Bingo squares of where Trump is going to end up? This thread and this post time stamps me for picking,

Five Points Correctional Facility
I'll take "none of them."
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05-21-2024 , 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by biggerboat
I'll take "none of them."
Yeah. Even house arrest seems unlikely.
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05-21-2024 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by biggerboat
I'll take "none of them."
That can be the center square on the Bingo board.


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Originally Posted by Tom Ames
Yeah. Even house arrest seems unlikely.
^^^ Sorry buddy, biggerboat beat you to that square, unless "house arrest" are different squares depending on which residence you pick.
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05-21-2024 , 01:19 PM
Bedminster Golf Course Mausoleum
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05-21-2024 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by davmcg
Is the fact that trump refuses to speak in his own defence something that the prosecution can bring up in closing arguments?
What is he defending? What crime was committed?

According to the many legal scholars across the country, there was absolutely no crime committed. It's perfectly legal for President Trump to list an NDA payment as a legal expense. So please enlighten me, what crime was proven to be committed here?

What you should instead be concerned with is the fact that the justice system has been weaponized against the political opponent of the current administration but people like yourself who only care about "getting rid of Trump" don't even care how they do it, as long as they do it. If it was the other way around and President Trump's administration was doing this to the democrats running against him, I'm sure you would be outraged. That's a hypocrite.
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05-21-2024 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Playbig2000
What is he defending? What crime was committed?

According to the many legal scholars across the country, there was absolutely no crime committed. It's perfectly legal for President Trump to list an NDA payment as a legal expense. So please enlighten me, what crime was proven to be committed here?

What you should instead be concerned with is the fact that the justice system has been weaponized against the political opponent of the current administration but people like yourself who only care about "getting rid of Trump" don't even care how they do it, as long as they do it. If it was the other way around and President Trump's administration was doing this to the democrats running against him, I'm sure you would be outraged. That's a hypocrite.


I mean, if you are serious, start here:

https://manhattanda.org/district-att...onald-j-trump/

But I truly hope you are not.
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05-21-2024 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Playbig2000
What is he defending? What crime was committed?
It might interest you to learn that when a criminal case is brought to trial, the prosecution lays out the crimes that they allege to have been committed in a charging document, usually an indictment. You seem to have enviable skills of searching out information on top secret conspiracies, so it shouldn't be particularly difficult for you to locate a document that has been published to the general public.
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05-21-2024 , 06:16 PM
lol they asked Trump if he supports restrictions on contraception and he said they are looking into it and will release a policy soon. The guys not even passing the Turing Test anymore.
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05-21-2024 , 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Gorgonian


I mean, if you are serious, start here:

https://manhattanda.org/district-att...onald-j-trump/

But I truly hope you are not.
No, if you're serious, start here.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/ny-v...maginary-crime

The charges were manufactured. Hillary Clinton used bleach to erase phones and computers to hide evidence of treason, but her cohorts said "no reasonable prosecutor would ever think to file charges" and it was swept under the rug. When byden was VP he took classified docs and put them in an unsecure place in his garage. The independent investigator (I think he was a republican, an asian guy named Hu or something like that) was paid off to again brush it under the rug and NOT file charges because "he's just a forgetful old man" (they have it all. Phone calls, texts, and money exchanges. Space force has some excellent surveillance equipment). However, President Trump paying someone claiming she had an affair with him to keep quiet and having her sign a NDA is not illegal and entering it under "legal expense" is not illegal either. When you have an attorney draw up docs to pay this lady, what is that called then a transportation expense?


At least most people get it. President Trump drew 100K people last weekend on the Jersey shore. Byden coudn't even fill 5 circles when he was in his prime, but he won the election. If 2020 was a poker hand 5 people would be standing up saying it's collusion.
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05-21-2024 , 10:13 PM
2020 was rigged I agree

So was 2016

You agree with that right?
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05-21-2024 , 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Playbig2000
No, if you're serious, start here.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/ny-v...maginary-crime

The charges were manufactured. Hillary Clinton used bleach to erase phones and computers to hide evidence of treason, but her cohorts said "no reasonable prosecutor would ever think to file charges" and it was swept under the rug. When byden was VP he took classified docs and put them in an unsecure place in his garage. The independent investigator (I think he was a republican, an asian guy named Hu or something like that) was paid off to again brush it under the rug and NOT file charges because "he's just a forgetful old man" (they have it all. Phone calls, texts, and money exchanges. Space force has some excellent surveillance equipment). However, President Trump paying someone claiming she had an affair with him to keep quiet and having her sign a NDA is not illegal and entering it under "legal expense" is not illegal either. When you have an attorney draw up docs to pay this lady, what is that called then a transportation expense?


At least most people get it. President Trump drew 100K people last weekend on the Jersey shore. Byden coudn't even fill 5 circles when he was in his prime, but he won the election. If 2020 was a poker hand 5 people would be standing up saying it's collusion.
I have a very hard time believing that you are a winning poker player.
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05-21-2024 , 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
Stop caring like they did when they decided there are 72 genders or when they defended BLM riots in tens of cities? Or when they tried to steal hundreds of billions from taxpayers unconstitutionally by forfeiting student debt?

Because the people who protested violently from the left 25-35 years ago are those pushing that right now.

Society is suffering immensely in most western counteies from radical leftists having grown into positions of power from the previous generation, the hasta la Victoria sempre men and women are judges, HR managers discriminating heavily against white and asian men, and so on.
What violent protesters are you talking about? Are you saying people who smashed bank windows to protest the WTO are making policy? Name names please.
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05-21-2024 , 10:56 PM
FWIW, I DGAF about multi-gender stuff, BLM protests, or student debt. Be whatever gender you want, Black lives are treated like meat and the idea behind the protests were fine, and canceling all student debt is fine with me. Not canceling student debt is fine with me.
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05-21-2024 , 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Playbig2000


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Originally Posted by Playbig2000
President Trump drew 100K people last weekend on the Jersey shore.

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05-22-2024 , 02:17 AM
IMO there has only been one "rigged" election in my lifetime, and that was in the election of 2000, where a candidate's own brother got to decide how the ballots were counted in Florida, and the Supreme Court even agreed it was the wrong decision, but somehow thought it was worse to correct it a few weeks later than to get the count right.
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05-22-2024 , 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
IMO there has only been one "rigged" election in my lifetime, and that was in the election of 2000, where a candidate's own brother got to decide how the ballots were counted in Florida, and the Supreme Court even agreed it was the wrong decision, but somehow thought it was worse to correct it a few weeks later than to get the count right.
2000 was bad, but 2016 was pretty sketchy too: Georgia election server wiped after suit filed. Coincidentally, >50% of Republicans view Russia more favorably than Democrats. I doubt Russian ops have anything to do with it.
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05-22-2024 , 01:03 PM
It sounds like the only election we have verified proof there was rigging was last election when 50+ high ranking members of the intelligence community came together to convince people the hunter laptop was fake right before the election because it would have looked terrible for one candidate and then they threatened social media companies to delete or hide posts talking about it. They also did similar things about covid.
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