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11-25-2022 , 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by lozen
If Garland clearly feels there may be a conflict of interest would he have not also had a special counsel for Hunter as that is a conflict either? ( sorry Cuepee)

Bottom line weather its Garland or anyone else Trumps team is going to have the same narrative. Garland failed when he didnt investigate and charge Trump months ago and now he is taking the easy road.

Everyone knew Trump was running so that is a flimsy excuse as well
The sorry is appropriate as the right wing talking points have taught you all accusations are equal and need to be treated equally.

Just because right wing nuts scream Benghazi, Hunter Biden and soon, 'investigate Fauci' and 'Impeach Mayorkas' does not mean these things deserve serous consideration, Investigative committees and Special Counsels.

There was REAL and CLEAR evidence of Trump illegality, and not just spurious accusations of such, which upon initial considerations by law enforcement doing preliminary investigations 'RISE TO THE LEVEL' of PROCEEDING to a real full fledged investigation. It is then and only THEN, that a AG or DOJ would consider whether a Special Counsel should be considered.


Honest question. Do you understand the distinction I am pointing at?

I ask that as the entire reason Trump and his right cohort want to do all these Investigations and Impeachments, etc, is they believe it will make the Derps believe 'it is all the same'. "Trump was impeached... Biden was impeached...', 'Trump was investigated... Biden was investigated...'

THey believe they can snow all the Derps to just looking at this as things partisans do as opposed to what it really was which was the Dems being forced time and again, into very sombre and regretful actions by Trump that required investigation and impeachment.
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11-25-2022 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
The sorry is appropriate as the right wing talking points have taught you all accusations are equal and need to be treated equally.

Just because right wing nuts scream Benghazi, Hunter Biden and soon, 'investigate Fauci' and 'Impeach Mayorkas' does not mean these things deserve serous consideration, Investigative committees and Special Counsels.

There was REAL and CLEAR evidence of Trump illegality, and not just spurious accusations of such, which upon initial considerations by law enforcement doing preliminary investigations 'RISE TO THE LEVEL' of PROCEEDING to a real full fledged investigation. It is then and only THEN, that a AG or DOJ would consider whether a Special Counsel should be considered.


Honest question. Do you understand the distinction I am pointing at?

I ask that as the entire reason Trump and his right cohort want to do all these Investigations and Impeachments, etc, is they believe it will make the Derps believe 'it is all the same'. "Trump was impeached... Biden was impeached...', 'Trump was investigated... Biden was investigated...'

THey believe they can snow all the Derps to just looking at this as things partisans do as opposed to what it really was which was the Dems being forced time and again, into very sombre and regretful actions by Trump that required investigation and impeachment.
No question the crimes committed by Trump exceed to what we know is true about Hunter ( Tax Fraud, Lying on gun permit) Even CBS News now has stated they have verified the contents of the laptop

My point is I think Merick Garland has failed the public by passing this off. How many folks here even said just wait till after the midterms Garland will charge him and .......

It amazes me weather its Trump or Hunter that these investigations drag on for years. If a crime is committed charge that individual. Cmon on Law & Order they get it down in a hour
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11-25-2022 , 04:12 PM
Be sure to stay on the Hunter case, ideally through 2024. You can whatabout compare it to any crime ever committed by any human in the history of time as needed, whether it be shoplifting gum or genocide. Be sure to continue to use phrases like "what we know" to imply much worse Hunter info is coming soon that will rival anything, even crimes done by an actual sitting President. Thanks in advance for your continued efforts.

All the best.
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11-26-2022 , 01:04 AM
lol
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11-26-2022 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by lozen
No question the crimes committed by Trump exceed to what we know is true about Hunter ( Tax Fraud, Lying on gun permit) Even CBS News now has stated they have verified the contents of the laptop

My point is I think Merick Garland has failed the public by passing this off. How many folks here even said just wait till after the midterms Garland will charge him and .......

It amazes me weather its Trump or Hunter that these investigations drag on for years. If a crime is committed charge that individual. Cmon on Law & Order they get it down in a hour
What you do not understand...

What right media talking points have taught you...

Is that investigations, Impeachments, etc, should happen based on what partisan politicians or right media call out.


That is NOT and has NEVER been the way investigations should evolve and in fact should be resisted,


You ALWAYS come back to this point of it POTENTIALLY looking like something is there, thus Garland should investigate. No. NO. NO.

Trump is correct in decrying 'witch hunts' as a bad thing. They are bad things that should be avoided. Unfortunately for Trump, none of the investigations into him qualify as witch hunts. They were all properly and foundationally grounded in the way investigations NEED to start.

What you then do is try to rationalize why a literal host of 'witch hunts' should then happen, and you would justify it after the fact by saying it now looks like there might be something there. What we call in poker 'results based thinking'.

You need to question yourself more why these right talking points resonate and sink in with you so much that you believe them legitimate.
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11-26-2022 , 11:59 AM
The lack of discipline in Trump's organization never ceases to amaze. Kanye and Nick Fuentes? Really?
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11-26-2022 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
The lack of discipline in Trump's organization never ceases to amaze. Kanye and Nick Fuentes? Really?
Let's play Jeopardy!

The Answer Is:

"Donald Trump, Kanye West and Nick Fuentes."

The Question Is:

Spoiler:
What's the opposite of a Think Tank?
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11-26-2022 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by shortstacker
Let's play Jeopardy!

The Answer Is:

"Donald Trump, Kanye West and Nick Fuentes."

The Question Is:

Spoiler:
What's the opposite of a Think Tank?
And

Spoiler:
Who are three people who have never been (and never will be) in my kitchen?
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11-26-2022 , 01:44 PM
That latest TV reference is way too recent for Cuepee to appreciate...
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11-26-2022 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
That latest TV reference is way too recent for Cuepee to appreciate...
Not at all! Jeopardy! originally went on the air about the same time as Hogan's Heroes.
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11-26-2022 , 02:59 PM
It's actually a "Cheers" reference (about 3 minutes in)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wtMearyR38

Actually Cuepee may know of it since he is Cliff Clavin in real life!
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11-26-2022 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
It's actually a "Cheers" reference (about 3 minutes in)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wtMearyR38

Actually Cuepee may know of it since he is Cliff Clavin in real life!
That clip was funny!

I agree Cuepee is a real-life Cliff Clavin.

I'm a still-living Jerry Falwell Sr., minus the fame, influence and money.
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11-27-2022 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by shortstacker
That clip was funny!

I agree Cuepee is a real-life Cliff Clavin.

I'm a still-living Jerry Falwell Sr., minus the fame, influence and money.
I actually have a running Cliff Clavin impersonation i do in real life, where I tell someone that is 'a little bit of a misnomer...' and then go on to spew useless facts.

Cheers is my all time favorite sitcom.

'No sudden movements!!!'

(points to anyone who knows that Cheers segments reference without googling it)
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11-27-2022 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
(points to anyone who knows that Cheers segments reference without googling it)
Woody the beekeeper.
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11-28-2022 , 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by washoe
do you get why they are waiting till after midterms? oh thats just an excuse you say...

I dont get the reason. they always say we got him but we are waiting, yeah, right! they dont have jackshit as per usual I think.

I hope Trump keeps picking Senate candidates. Who's next? Doctor Phil? lol


Anyone sick of winning yet?


Side note: I doubt Trump ever goes to jail but I also doubt he is viable much longer but I have mixed feelings about this.
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11-28-2022 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by steamraise
Woody the beekeeper.
Yup. You win todays 'internetz'.



My all time favorite sitcom moment.








(if we don't count Sergeant Schultz, of course)

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11-28-2022 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
The lack of discipline in Trump's organization never ceases to amaze. Kanye and Nick Fuentes? Really?
Even crazier, Desantis hasn't even made a big deal out of it. I feel like 25 years ago, even among Republicans, if a major presidential candidate had dinner with a Nazi, all the other major candidates would be blowing up the switchboards of newsrooms trying to get on. Not because it's the right thing to do, but because it's blatantly self serving. People in the anti-woke bubble just don' seem to get how extreme this looks for most of the country.
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11-28-2022 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
I actually have a running Cliff Clavin impersonation i do in real life, where I tell someone that is 'a little bit of a misnomer...' and then go on to spew useless facts.

Cheers is my all time favorite sitcom.

'No sudden movements!!!'

(points to anyone who knows that Cheers segments reference without googling it)
I thought it was the one were they go snipe hunting . I think that is what they call it that was such a funny episode
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11-28-2022 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte
Even crazier, Desantis hasn't even made a big deal out of it. I feel like 25 years ago, even among Republicans, if a major presidential candidate had dinner with a Nazi, all the other major candidates would be blowing up the switchboards of newsrooms trying to get on. Not because it's the right thing to do, but because it's blatantly self serving. People in the anti-woke bubble just don' seem to get how extreme this looks for most of the country.
Sadly Desantis has nothing to gain by doing this? That is how politics works these days on both sides. Has he been interviewed and asked this question as the standard answer will be " That is someone I would not choose to associate with" You think Trump would google his guests before they show up or have someone on his staff say "Mr Trump this guest isnt smart". I think even just having lunch with Kanye is a poor decision
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11-28-2022 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
You think Trump would google his guests before they show up or have someone on his staff say "Mr Trump this guest isnt smart".
I mean, it was the Trump team that gave the press conference at the Four Seasons Landscaping, so they're not the brightest at googling.
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11-28-2022 , 06:22 PM
In a sane party, your opponents will capitalize on such a major f up....even a party that had virtually no ideas or morals like the late 90s-mid 2000s Republicans. The 2020 republicans are not even sane anymore....they're anti cancel culture warriors that are afraid of being painted as too anti-Nazi.
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11-28-2022 , 07:02 PM
If they ever become anti-comedian then there will be hell to pay...
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11-28-2022 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
If they ever become anti-comedian then there will be hell to pay...
Comedians are the first casualties of war.
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11-29-2022 , 01:33 PM
I've mentioned this prior and am not sure everyone truly understands the true threat of what is going on in the far right getting control of the election counting functions and certifying functions in many key States.

Most of the speculative talk I see is around '2020 being a dress rehearsal for 2024 so that when Trump needs people to 'find votes' next time, they will do so'.

That is not the real threat, as that would always be a tougher one to pull off. The much easier one to pull off is not 'finding votes' but just 'stopping vote counting' when Trump is ahead, 'causing delays' and then just certifying the incomplete tailored count. The State and Federal election laws actually call for States to do exactly that by the Deadlines, as a way to put some finality to disputes and incomplete count is not wrong or disqualifying.

So if Trump sees he is ahead in various States but thinks that is in jeopardy, he just shouts 'stop the count', 'fraud' and they do. As the Dems race to courts to try and get them to start it, they simply delay. Or they take apart all the election counting equipment saying they were looking for machine compromises. So even if a court moves quickly to order them to start the count, they can create insurmountable delays that will prevent the full count. The current laws and system has NO answer to that. That is the lawful path.


That is playing out a bit in reverse right now in Arizona where a refusal to certify by various GOPers could actually hand more seats to the Dems. The State legally will be forced to certify the results WITHOUT access to the proper and legal citizens votes in these GOP won areas thus giving Dems, more seats. But this shows you how easy it would be for them to be a smarter and only do this to deny the Dem areas their vote counts.








Arizona secretary of state sues GOP-controlled county over refusal to certify election results

Cochise County has repeatedly refused to certify its results from the Nov. 8 election. The deadline for certification is Nov. 28.
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11-29-2022 , 01:37 PM
Understand the above is neither hard to do nor illegal and is the way the system is intended to work, if all people are acting in good faith.

It it was a genuine fraud or election issue, and it could not be resolved by deadline, then they are to certify 'what they got', and that is how it works.

So unlike with 2020 where Trump was asking for others to engage in illegality and many refused, unless you can prove those who have control of the elections are acting in bad faith and do not believe Trumps outbursts of fraud and other such claims it would be impossible to indict them over any crime as they are supposed to act on any perceived and believed election irregularities and to try and rectify them, if they have the time, and if not, to certify with whatever they got.
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