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08-17-2022 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Seriously mods,
YOU... are never the voice of reason, Trolly
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08-17-2022 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by King Spew
YOU... are never the voice of reason, Trolly
Can you at least get bahaba and lozen to stop derailing threads? Would be nice if we could talk about the biggest intelligence leak in American history without the constant deflections and whataboutism. Maybe move BLM grievances to a separate thread?
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08-17-2022 , 04:56 PM
do you honestly believe their trolling is worse than yours ?
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whataboutism seems to be MO of so many around here.


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But what about QP?


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But....but.... what about Hilary (seems to hit home, wouldn't you say?)
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08-17-2022 , 05:12 PM
I’m 100% fine with being subjected to the same moderation standards. It’s just absurd that anything Trump does gets met with a deliberate “whatabout BLM?” or “whatabout Hillary?” smokescreen.
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08-17-2022 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
anything Trump does gets met with a deliberate “whatabout BLM?” or “whatabout Hillary?” smokescreen.
Thank you for your help moderating by adding your own brand of whataboutism. That effort by "both sides" CLEARLY allows the non-committed readers to scratch their collective chims and say "hmmmmmmm".

gj
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08-17-2022 , 07:57 PM
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08-17-2022 , 08:10 PM
A warning sign, Doh!

It's like with the UK economy and energy and global warming and ... 'Nothign to see here' until the fan spraying the **** all over the place is a 'worrying sign'
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08-17-2022 , 08:17 PM
What makes it a worrying sign for democracy is that it's the first time in the United States that anyone has threatened to kill anyone or used an antisemitic slur.
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08-17-2022 , 08:19 PM
I would not bet a dollar that D.A Bragg would pursue any prosecution against the Trump orgs.

I am more curious if the New York Attorney General Tish James can use this in her Civil Suit against Trump org or spin out a seperate Criminal Case on these details below?

I think D.A. Bragg will drag out the pretense of a 'potential investigation' to try and protect Trump and block AG James but she does not need to wait.


Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg will testify against company if called as witness: sources

The Trump Organization’s longtime chief financial officer is expected to admit to conspiring with the Trump Organization and Trump Payroll Corporation in a criminal tax fraud scheme while head of the company’s finances at a Manhattan court hearing on Thursday...

Allen Weisselberg is expected to criminally implicate Trump’s family real estate business when he pleads guilty to felony tax fraud charges,...

As part of the CFO’s plea deal — for which he’ll serve five months max on Rikers Island, the source said — Weisselberg is expected to agree to testify against the Trump companies if they choose to go to trial in October and he’s called as a witness.

Former President Donald Trump has not been named as a defendant in the Manhattan district attorney’s case, which stems from a broader probe into his business practices. Weisselberg’s plea agreement, whose terms were being finalized Wednesday, contains no provision relating to cooperating against Trump nor “anybody with the last name Trump,” ...

“If this is true, it’s a devastating blow to the Trump Organization,” said Daniel R. Alonso, a white-collar defense lawyer and former deputy to the former Manhattan DA Cyrus Vance, Jr., who launched the office’s Trump probe.

“It would make it a relatively easy case to prove if you have a high managerial agent on the stand saying, ‘I’m guilty.’ That’s enormously helpful to the prosecution.”...

Trump could still be charged in the investigation. Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg, who inherited the probe when he took office on Jan. 1, has said he will announce his decision on whether to indict the former president when he makes up his mind....
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08-17-2022 , 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
What makes it a worrying sign for democracy is that it's the first time in the United States that anyone has threatened to kill anyone or used an antisemitic slur.
It is more that it is the growing default tool of a huge percent of the Trump base and they feel so emboldened they are very public about it. They are eager to use violence and kill.

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08-17-2022 , 09:58 PM
Trumpsters are compose full of conspiracy theory , anti science individuals and are very loud .
Not surprise they act like this , the law must go through and solve the issue now before it really hit a non-return point and infects the rest of the country .
The stakes are getting very high .
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08-18-2022 , 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by King Spew
do you honestly believe their trolling is worse than yours ?
BTW, I can't help but notice that you dodged my question. It wasn't rhetorical. To answer your question, yes I do think that promoting fascism, disinformation and bigotry is much worse than my brand of sassy and irreverent yet insightful funposting. I can tell you see things differently.

Last edited by Trolly McTrollson; 08-18-2022 at 12:31 AM.
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08-18-2022 , 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
This is terrible. It isn’t nearly as bad as dems threatening Supreme Court justices since the justices got threatened for far longer, it was at their houses, they had more people and was supported by politicians. It’s no where close to as bad as the massive amounts of violence that was supported by politicians in the BLM riots either but I hope we as a society final stand up and say this stuff isn’t ok.
Trollys lc posts are probably better than having constant back and forths to intentional derails cluttering thread in a lot of instances. People (myself included) get baited by Lozen / Bahbah too often, but having noone respond to this also seems not ok. "B-b-bbut blacks!" is all that needs to be said to get the point across / end the derail here really
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08-18-2022 , 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
BTW, I can't help but notice that you dodged my question. It wasn't rhetorical. To answer your question, yes I do think that promoting fascism, disinformation and bigotry is much worse than my brand of (smears, lies and discussion derails). I can tell you see things differently.
FYP.
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08-18-2022 , 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
It is more that it is the growing default tool of a huge percent of the Trump base and they feel so emboldened they are very public about it. They are eager to use violence and kill.

It is very scary that an individual feels like that guy that violence is OK. I am glad that Charlie Kirk says no that is wrong. I wish Charlie Kirk would say the election was not stolen

Oh by the way Kyle Kulinski is a credible news source/opinion host
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08-18-2022 , 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by lozen
It is very scary that an individual feels like that guy that violence is OK. I am glad that Charlie Kirk says no that is wrong. I wish Charlie Kirk would say the election was not stolen

Oh by the way Kyle Kulinski is a credible news source/opinion host
Charlie Kirk saying that is pretty worthless when the thousand other statements he makes a week are what are inciting guys like this. This is like Trump throwing in the word 'peacefully' once into a speech on Marching to Capital, when all the other rhetoric was incitement. It is a way to get a sound bite on the record to say 'see i was not calling for violence at all'.
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08-18-2022 , 10:05 AM
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08-18-2022 , 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
Charlie Kirk saying that is pretty worthless when the thousand other statements he makes a week are what are inciting guys like this. This is like Trump throwing in the word 'peacefully' once into a speech on Marching to Capital, when all the other rhetoric was incitement. It is a way to get a sound bite on the record to say 'see i was not calling for violence at all'.
I have no clue what Charlie Kirk says on a weekly basis. You posted a link and I watched it and commented on that . In that link he says no violence. Than Kyle breaks down what he says

If you have a link were he says violence is OK than post it and Ill condemn that as will I condemn the left when they use rhetoric that suggests violence is OK
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08-18-2022 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
I have no clue what Charlie Kirk says on a weekly basis. You posted a link and I watched it and commented on that . In that link he says no violence. Than Kyle breaks down what he says

If you have a link were he says violence is OK than post it and Ill condemn that as will I condemn the left when they use rhetoric that suggests violence is OK
You can start here and then google more if you like.
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08-18-2022 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
You can start here and then google more if you like.
Well I know who he is I just don't follow him. I do not follow Tucker Carlson nor do I follow Rachel Maddow. If they have an interesting guest I will watch

I assume Charlie Kirk is the male version of Candace Owens . I do know he is part of Turning Point as well

My problem is when people here believe Rachel Maddow tells the truth 100% of the time or Joy Reid.

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/rachel-maddow/

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/joy-reid/
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08-18-2022 , 12:43 PM
Founded Turning Point, which has become a bit of a joke on the internet due the lame memes they churn out. I think there's more parody ones than real ones.

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08-18-2022 , 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Well I know who he is I just don't follow him. I do not follow Tucker Carlson nor do I follow Rachel Maddow. If they have an interesting guest I will watch

I assume Charlie Kirk is the male version of Candace Owens . I do know he is part of Turning Point as well

My problem is when people here believe Rachel Maddow tells the truth 100% of the time or Joy Reid.

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/rachel-maddow/

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/joy-reid/
Lets put aside "100% of the time" as hyperbole as I do not think you mean that literally.

Instead i am curious (legit curious) whom you think HERE shows they "believe" Maddow or Reid at all?

And by "believe" I mean, would take what they say without doubting it or looking for other substantiation before representing it as proof?
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08-18-2022 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
Instead i am curious (legit curious) whom you think HERE shows they "believe" Maddow or Reid at all?
Most of the people here who parrot MSNBC style rhetoric? There are certainly a few.
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08-18-2022 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
Lets put aside "100% of the time" as hyperbole as I do not think you mean that literally.

Instead i am curious (legit curious) whom you think HERE shows they "believe" Maddow or Reid at all?

And by "believe" I mean, would take what they say without doubting it or looking for other substantiation before representing it as proof?
Steamraise is one but there are few

The problem lies when when Rachel puts out a tweet or retweets

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Folks in line at hospital with gunshot wounds unable to get treatment due to all the Ivermectum overdoses
A totally BS story but does she go on her show the next night and apologize? Nope yet to this day I know people to believe this is still true
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08-18-2022 , 02:08 PM
i'm curious, what is "MSNBC style rhetoric"?

Last edited by #Thinman; 08-18-2022 at 02:09 PM. Reason: ...for instance, that meme above is a good example of kirk style rhetoric
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