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As we’ve seen over the past few weeks Trumps negotiations and agreement to withdrawal from Afghanistan hasn’t worked out to well.

https://www.mankatofreepress.com/opi...d03cd.amp.html

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09-02-2021 , 12:24 PM

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Fueled by calls from Steve Bannon

at least 8,500 new Republican precinct officers have
joined county parties in 41 of 65 counties targeted by activists.

Republican Party operatives are describing the influx as unprecedented.
Precinct officers don’t have much power individually, but collectively they can wield substantial
influence in some states by choosing poll workers and helping select boards that oversee elections.

What we’re seeing is the emergence of a seemingly organized movement with a clear call to action and clear goals:
Penetrate the administrative apparatus of the electoral system on a state-by-state basis, and populate it
with people who believe the last election was stolen and that their duty is to prevent a future recurrence.

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/florid...lists-n1278499

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09-07-2021 , 12:22 AM

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prosecutors are weighing tax-related crime charges against Trump Organization COO Matthew Calamari Sr

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09-07-2021 , 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Da_Nit

As we’ve seen over the past few weeks Trumps negotiations and agreement to withdrawal from Afghanistan hasn’t worked out to well.

https://www.mankatofreepress.com/opi...d03cd.amp.html

Mankato Free Press, seriously? What, you couldn’t find a paper from Red Cloud, Nebraska to bash Trump? This is all on Biden, but good try.

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09-07-2021 , 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperGrover123

Mankato Free Press, seriously? What, you couldn’t find a paper from Red Cloud, Nebraska to bash Trump? This is all on Biden, but good try.

Yeah good point no idea why I referenced some weird editorial. Just search Trump Afghan deal. I find it particularly funny how the RNC removed the deal as an accomplishment of Trumps presidency. This is Trumps bed and the legacy of Bush/Cheney.

https://www.newsweek.com/gop-removes...-1619605?amp=1

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09-07-2021 , 10:18 PM

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I think if the Taliban take control and run Afghanistan even relatively well then you will see Trump and the RNC suddenly reminding everyone he was the one who negotiated with the Taliban while cutting out and undermining the Afghan gov't, and locked Biden on that path.

The path forward for the Taliban is pretty clear. Be like China. Do what you want, human rights wise within your borders to crush dissent and push your agenda while otherwise playing game to grow the country and its strength.

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09-08-2021 , 05:14 PM

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Ha this is hilarious. Trump will spending 9/11 giving commentary on an Evander Holyfield fight.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/09/08/p...-11/index.html

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09-08-2021 , 05:53 PM

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Holyfield was too old to box in the 90s.

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09-09-2021 , 02:47 PM

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efforts to remove Trump loyalists from government posts are ongoing

Kellyanne Conway, Trump's former campaign manager,
who complained that the Biden White House was failing to honor "presidential norms."

Because if there's one thing we learned about Team Trump's priorities over the course of four painful years,
it's the seriousness with which Conway and her colleagues cared about "presidential norms."

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-...oards-n1278792

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09-09-2021 , 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by steamraise

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When does this self serving mofo go?

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09-09-2021 , 05:13 PM

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Yeah, I thought he would be one of the first to go.

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09-10-2021 , 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Cuepee

When does this self serving mofo go?

Little prick should be in jail

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09-10-2021 , 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by steamraise

Yeah, I thought he would be one of the first to go.

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...federal law bars the president from terminating the postmaster general under any circumstances. Biden can attempt to oust DeJoy indirectly, but that option is fraught with legal uncertainties, and certain to trigger Republican complaints of norm busting. Unless the president is willing to take a significant legal risk, DeJoy will remain in control for months or years to come...

...The problem, ironically, originates from Congress’ desire to insulate USPS from politics. For most of American history, the Postal Service played an integral role in the spoils system, and postmaster general was a plum post for an ally of the president. In 1970, Congress overhauled the structure of the Postal Service to end this sordid tradition of patronage by giving the agency substantial independence. To oversee USPS’s activities, Congress established a nine-member board of governors who are nominated by the president and confirmed by the Senate. No more than five members of the board may belong to the same political party. Once confirmed to the board, governors can only be removed by the president “for cause”; that means their jobs are safe unless the president can show that they engaged in malfeasance or extreme neglect of duty. The board of governors, in turn, selects the postmaster general, who is not subject to Senate approval. And once appointed, the postmaster general can only be removed by the board, though it need not justify its decision.

This structure, in short, is why Louis DeJoy remains postmaster general under Biden. The board of governors is dominated by Trump appointees; Senate Republicans refused to confirm President Barack Obama’s nominees to the board, leaving vacancies that Trump promptly filled. Today, there are four Republicans and two Democrats on the board, plus three vacancies. One Democrat, Ron Bloom, is serving a holdover term, which means Biden can replace him at any time. Thus, Biden can fill four seats on the board of governors—a move that would flip the board, giving Democrats a 5–4 majority. The new president can then urge the Democratic members to remove DeJoy, which they can do by a majority vote.

Filling these vacancies is the simplest way for Biden to get rid of DeJoy, though there is no guarantee that it will actually work. The new board would include five Democrats—but one of them, Donald Lee Moak, is a Trump-appointed moderate who, along with the rest of the board, backed DeJoy when he came under fire for his alleged corruption.* It appears unlikely that Moak would choose to oust a postmaster general whom he supported through this summer’s controversy. And if Moak declined to join Biden’s nominees in firing DeJoy, the postmaster general would retain his position indefinitely.

Democrats who fear this scenario have pushed Biden to fire some or all of the current board members, allowing him to install a whole new slate of governors committed to removing DeJoy. This plan faces a major hurdle: Federal law allows Biden to terminate governors “only for cause.” Democratic Rep. Bill Pascrell has argued that the president already has cause to fire the current board because it violated its legal duty to “represent the public interest.” According to Pascrell, the governors’ “refusal to oppose the worst destruction ever inflicted on the Postal Service was a betrayal of their duties and unquestionably constitutes good cause for their removal.”

Legal experts question whether this theory would hold water in court. “To fire board members ‘for cause’ requires an individual showing that the particular member did something repugnant,” said Rena Steinzor, a professor at the University of Maryland School of Law. “Allowing a president to decide that he doesn’t like what the agency as a whole is doing as a justification for firing its entire board would be a very hard sell in court.” ...

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Little prick should be in jail

I think that threat and a potential carrot should be what Biden uses to make DeJoy step down voluntarily.

A type of 'quit now and all is forgotten' versus making it known that they believe Dejoy has not only done unethical things but also potentially illegal things and that they plan to investigate those things to the maximum extent threat if he does not.

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Biden has filled the 3 vacant seats and as such the Board has 6 Trump appointees and 3 Biden.

One of the Trump appointees Ron Bloom is Democrat but he has supported keeping DeJoy previously. Biden could replace him now as his term is technically up so i suspect they know he will play ball and flip his vote once the Board actually has the votes.

Biden will have the votes after Dec 8, 2021 if all Dems vote together, including Bloom flipping or being replaced.

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- Ron A. Bloom was nominated to the Postal Service Board of Governors by President Donald Trump, confirmed by the Senate and began his service Aug. 20, 2019. Bloom served the remainder of a seven-year term that expired Dec. 8, 2020, ...

- John M. Barger was appointed to the Postal Service Board of Governors by President Donald Trump and was confirmed by the Senate on Aug. 1, 2019. Barger will serve for the remainder of a term that expires on Dec. 8, 2021. He currently chairs the Board's Compensation and Governance Committee...

- Donald L. Moak was appointed to the Postal Service Board of Governors by President Donald Trump and was confirmed by the Senate on June 18, 2020. Moak will serve for the remainder of a seven-year term that expires on December 8, 2022.

- William D. Zollars was appointed to the Postal Service Board of Governors by President Donald Trump and was confirmed by the Senate on June 18, 2020. Zollars will serve for the remainder of a seven-year term that expires on December 8, 2022.

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Biden will have the votes after Dec 8, 2021 if all Dems vote together, including Bloom flipping or being replaced when he replaces John M. Barger.

If for whatever reason Biden does a bad job at vetting which was his appointees will vote and he gets one single defection Dejoy will remain until at least Dec 2022 when Biden gets to fill two more seats unless the Dems lose the Senate in the Nov 2022 Midterms.

At that point the Board would be 7 Biden appointees and two Trump.

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https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/trump-...cutor-n1279595

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More than 30 years ago, Joe Biden argued persuasively that special prosecutors are
needed when high-ranking officials shatter the public’s faith in the government’s integrity.

He’s president now, and his attorney general, Merrick Garland, has the authority to appoint
a special counsel to investigate and prosecute allegations of crimes by Trump and others

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09-20-2021 , 01:21 PM

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MSNBC should pay steamraise a stipend.

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I haven't really been following Trump much since the last election - what is the latest with him? Does anyone truly think he's going to run in 2024?

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09-23-2021 , 07:09 PM

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I haven't really been following Trump much

This seems unlikely.

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09-23-2021 , 10:17 PM

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I haven't really been following Trump much since the last election - what is the latest with him? Does anyone truly think he's going to run in 2024?

I used to think he was gonna run but now I'm thinking he is too afraid of losing again. It's much safer to:

1) Milk a few hundred million dollars from his cult of supporters by saying he will run.
2) Change his mind & just sit on the sidelines and whine like the two old guys on The Muppetshow.

Hopefully he will be in prison by then.... or dead from a heart-attack.

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I used to think he was gonna run but now I'm thinking he is too afraid of losing again. It's much safer to:

1) Milk a few hundred million dollars from his cult of supporters by saying he will run.
2) Change his mind & just sit on the sidelines and whine like the two old guys on The Muppetshow.

Hopefully he will be in prison by then.... or dead from a heart-attack.

LOL at thinking a former POTUS would ever go to prison.

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LOL at thinking a former POTUS would ever go to prison.

A lot of people thinks a guy like trump couldn’t ever be president and it happened …

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09-24-2021 , 04:12 PM

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A lot of people thinks a guy like trump couldn’t ever be president and it happened …

How about this one?
1) Trump is convicted (of... well... you name it!) and goes to prison.
2) Trump runs for president from prison and wins!
3) Trump's first act as president is to pardon himself!
4) Trump has the "Marine One" helicopter transport him from prison to the White House.

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09-24-2021 , 04:18 PM

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to me at best trump could be condemn but be pardon by the sitting president, unless condemn for treason .

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09-24-2021 , 06:59 PM

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Opinion: Our constitutional crisis is already here

Good article. And a little frightening.

At this point, I don't know what it's going to take to fix politics in the US. These things are usually cyclical, and hopefully this is as well, but maybe not if things are just broken.

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