There was a study in my country of the typical "angry commenter". The kind who wreck havoc in comment sections and online discussions, usually accompanied by traits such as bigotry, trolling, misogyny, harassment and threats. The typical user was a middle-aged man in a low-paying job.

What's your argument for the bolded? Courting Republicans seems to have helped Joe Biden win - for instance he will likely barely win Arizona, where he was endorsed by former GOP Senator Jeff Flake and Cindy McCain. He ran two points ahead of the generic Democratic candidate. What's the case it hurt candidates downballot? Just that they did worse than expected based on a polling error?

Few politicians will resign their position for winning by a smaller margin than expected. But she definitely should have resigned after 2010 and probably 2014 as well.

(C) is false. According to exit polls, 48% of voters believe US efforts to contain the coronavirus pandemic are going very or somewhat well and overwhelming voted for Trump.

It's true that Biden won, though he wasn't the most conservative candidate (Bloomberg was). He also didn't publicly denounce Bernie. Saying that you won a primary and that the voters chose you and your platform and message instead of theirs is not a denunciation. And of course, from the GOP perspective, Biden is perceived as a tool of the AOC/Sanders left by many voters. But I agree that it is largely correct that Biden is generally perceived by the public as being personally more moderate than Sanders.

Your argument also assumes that entering the race generic Dem candidate and Trump were even and so a big boost from electability+COVID would manifest as a blowout rather than a narrow victory (if Trump entered with a lead). We don't know that this is true.

We also don't know how plastic the electorate is. Maybe big electoral boosts from events are no longer feasible and elections will all revolve around narrow swings of the electorate.

I'm not super confident in the Obama/Hillary/Biden coalition. I'm definitely willing to listen to arguments about its weaknesses and how we can shore it up. But I don't view this as a binary where evidence that this coalition is weak shows that Bernie-style populism is strong.

I played chess better than you when I was 9

And I never voted trump.

You guys are so used to the circle jerk you can't even think straight when someone doesn't agree with you

I see the same process here literally daily

All I hear is "Well they started it!!"

It's much more of a feedback loop than any of you would care to admit

Without looking take a guess what date the first post is in the trump thread

Lol... funny I would think this was evidence that it DID work at the top of the ballot.

One can hope they **** it up enough that Dems can sweep the Georgia run offs and actually fix all the **** ups.

The same Arizona where Donald Trump got about 350k more votes than his 2016 total? Maybe slow up on patting Republicans on the back for that one.

LOL yeah thank god coordi isn't here to jerk himself off, not like the hated libs lmao

I'm afraid of what might happen over the next 74 days. There's an unhinged, unstable psychopath in charge of the nation with nothing to lose.

Anyone want to talk me down off the ledge?

GG DEMS

I'm not praising Republicans, I'm talking about whether a messaging strategy was successful. I don't know Arizona politics well, but I assume endorsements by prominent local Republicans like Flake and McCain helped Biden win there, and since there was no margin to spare, seems a correct strategy.

Anyway, mostly you have Republicans endorse you to win votes from independents, not Republican voters.

Coordi doing work.

Right wingers all be like "well, you called us dumb so we went and found the dumbest mother****er possible to lead us, what else were we supposed to do?"

The law will take its course. And the US military have already put protection in place for the airspace over Joe Biden's house, if that's any sort of clue as to how things will go.

Don't sweat it. Politics is politics, focus on your life because that is where you can have control . That goes for everyone really.

The new media landscape and social media landscape shovels news and stories right into people faces constantly, creating an illusion that it's up to us to resolve it. It isn't, and taking that way is just recipe for negative stress reactions. You do what you can do (vote, maybe debate it a little, or even do some politics if you are so inclined) and move on.

If that is tough, then disconnect. Doomscrolling is a 2020 affliction and a waste of time. Pundits and sources that constantly peddle headlines to make people emotional can be safely put on ignore: It's business, don't fall for it.

Wanna run this ticket by a few people. I'm not the least bit of an election expert or follower ... have been a-political until this Trump phenomenon (which I think threatens the very reality testing of the nation and our government).

Biden wins prez election at 7.7/1 (bet a year ago)
Trump not elected -190 (election night)
Trump loses MI -350
Trump loses MN -400
Trump wins FLA -200
Trump wins OH -310
Trump loses PA -200
Trump wins TX -400
Trump loses WI -350
Trump loses NV -450

My first ever election bets. Wish I had parlayed it, lol. Not sure if the site even had parlays on elections. First blanch I think it's about 1% to sweep that ticket. Anyway, point is the type of handicapping that was used ... how did this ticket come about?

1. Trump wins FLA because if he doesn't the election is over in a flash and this election ain't over in a flash ... it goes for weeks, maybe months
2. Biden wins back the "Blue Wall"
3. Trump wins TX because the speculation he won't is the same BS that fantasizes about flipping the senate
4. Trump lose NV a tip from statistician
5. Trump wins OH similar to FLA reason
6. Biden wins nomination against 14? contenders and election as the most anti-Trump option
7. Sure didn't expect 70 million+ votes for Trump

So all this reflects a reverse type of handicapping. Instead of adding up the factors that produce results, you start with the result and figure which factors must go which way. I did this in sports for decades. I think it's the strongest angle under the sun, but am confident many will consider it ridiculous. It went 10 for 10 here, admittedly 9 favorites.

I am undecided whether it is better to wait until he is dead or not before performing a post mortem on him.

I dont know if it's true but it's a good reason for the people in charge to try really really hard to prevent things getting totally ****ed up.

It's clear that the Republican party is going to have to do some soul searching and reach out to those college educated whites, those minorities, the people who got turned off by Trump's narcissism, and ask "What can we do to win your vote? Why is the Republican party not speaking to you?"

None of that will be necessary.




Bernie 2024 will be all the republicans need to have their shot at redemption.

Who are you calling low paid ?

Wat

Why? The Republicans own the house for the next decade no? Seems that party crushed it everywhere except for the throne. Biden is going to have his hands tied the next 4 years without a Dem majority me thinks

It made more sense in my head.