This is why Biden won.

lol cognitive dissonance

The big question going forward is whether the absolute worst places in America, rural white uneducated***tholes, start realizing that decades of republican rule have failed them. Basically it comes down to whether they care about improving their communities more than they hate minorities.

Trump won all the awful parts of AZ. He won the rural vote nationwide (the actually shittiest parts of the country) by 21 points.

Trump lost ~all the really nice suburbs in Maricopa County (some of the most desirable communities in the country), and got killed in nice suburbs in GA and PA.

Lmao. Try again.

I could go ahead and list a 1000 reasons why the USA is the greatest and freest country that has ever come into existence, which is why so many of the people around the world are trying to get into it, but I know it would be a waste of time as you would ignore them.

So as to your points?

1. We also test the most by far....thereby more positives, and have the freest and most open country in the world in relation to our borders which allows people to come in and out much easier than many other countries. In addition, unlike most countries, we have the most diverse population in the world. White, blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Indians, Cubans, Caldeans/Muslims and on and on. Trying to get all of these different ethnicity's to do anything as a whole unit for the good of the country is next to impossible. Diversity imo is not a strength here. A country like Japan is much better off when it comes to covid.

2. Prison? I don't know.....don't commit crimes and you won't go to jail. Again, diversity is NOT a strength there.

3. Billionaires are bad?

4. I agree with this.

5. When you are the leader of the free world and much of the world depends on you for protection? That is what happens. That being said, I believe that the globalists/deep state want us in perpetual wars. And it is a hue problem imo.

And guess what! You just elected a career politician in Biden who has worked with globalists and the MIC for his entire career and got rid of the guy who removed us from the conflicts we were in for the past 50 years! Congrats!

6. I don't know the exact figure, but I believe something like 98% of all gun violence is committed by illegal firearms and a majority % OF THAT IS DONE BY MINORITIES. Again, diversity is not a strength.

7. Agree. Big pharma is a huge issue.

8. LOL very few people die because they are uninsured. Ridiculous statement. American hospitals are notorious for admitting anyone and everyone at anytime, whenever there is a medical issue. Unlike a large % of other countries around the world.

This is where UBI comes in.

LOL. Just lol.

That's the big question? Do you see any rural white areas rioting? Demanding free stuff? Destroying businesses? Committing over 50% of the violent crimes in America?

Nope. They go about their business and for the most part stay quiet.

It would seem to me the big question would be how to fix the minority issues going on in our big cities that have turned entire 20 square mile areas into decrepit, crime infested, uneducated war zones where it is not safe to walk down any street. Where the fatherless rate is upwards of 80%. Where most kids don't graduate HS and drugs are everywhere.

Do this. Go walk down a street in south west Chicago at night, and then go walk down a street in Hemlock Michigan at night.

I can absolutely promise you that sooner or later, on one of those streets you will not come out alive. And it sure isn't the street in Hemlock Mi.

omg test the most, so most positive results this is right out of the foxnews playbook.

Just a basic search seems to contradict this. Cook Partisan Index has it as even and Hillary won just over 50% in the district. There are great places to live where Hillary got 80% of the vote like Manhattan, but I honestly can't find a single good place to live where Trump got 70%+. Maybe it exists but I can't find it.

Imagine thinking that Philadelphia is much worse than anywhere in Mississippi or West Virginia.

Geez, this is just mask-off racism, and almost all of it lies.

there are some awful places in philadelphia--i live in fishtown so maybe a 2 miles from my house is kensington which is some of the scariest **** you'll see in the country (opiod hub of the East Coast). with that being said, there are a lot of great areas in Philadelphia. Philadelphia is a pretty large area. I'd live in probably 25% of the area without thinking, the next 25% I'd be a little less happy and another 50% where I'd try to avoid if I can. Pretty sure many cities are like this. I'm unsure, but is Compton and others places in LA still bad? I knew of a ton of bad areas in Atlanta near the Airport. I just don't understand how you can quickly say any city is god awful so easily. Parts are awful, parts are wonderful. Same story can basically be said in many cities. Detroit is tough but I'm assuming there are still some nice areas of that city and surrounding areas.

I can say there are definitely some great rural areas. Also some awful ones. Again, there are no real sweeping generalizations you can make that rural = all bad, and city = all bad. it's a mix.

Jfc Trump IS the political elite on the right

And of course he will never shut up

And of couuuuuurse his supporters will never go away

Look at the voting totals in the cities compared to the suburbs. It isn't comparable.

Again, Biden got 2 Million more votes than Trump in Los Angeles alone. You know who lives in LA for the most part? Minorities. Hispanics and blacks.

What difference does it make with that kind of thing happening?

As for AZ? My wife and I visited Scottsdale last spring. Loved it. Also saw a ton of Trump flags and signs.

We then went to Phoenix for a planned day, which is also in Maricopa county.

We immediately noticed the 'change' in scenery, if you understand what I am saying. We went to an out door mall and an indoor mall and did not, as a white man and an Asian woman, feel safe. So we walked in both, walked out of both all within 3 minutes, and hightailed it back to Scottsdale. The people there looked like a scene from a Star Wars Cantina. College grads they were not. Phoenix is the only city I have ever been to that had signs in the parking lots telling you to be on guard at all times, lock your vehicle, and to keep all valuables hidden. I grew up in MI and never even saw that in Detroit.

Those are the people that won it for Biden in AZ.

Those types of people just won an election for Biden in America, so don't be surprised when the rest of America turns into what we saw in Phoenix, and that is EXACTLY what the globalists, with the support of both the Dems and the Repubs and the MSM.....want.

They don't have any business. That's the point. The % of people living in rural America has been steadily declining for 100 years.



No jobs, no education, no skills with which to move to real America. These folks have been left behind and things that we take for granted like high speed internet are not universal for them. But blaming immigrants and minorities isn't going to help. They need to fix their culture that's heavily based on government handouts and start valuing things like education and hard work. Abandoning the Republican party would be a good first step since it's brought them nothing but poverty a lower standard of living compared to the rest of us over the last 50+ years. Over the last decade they've become one of the few populations in the Western world to experience decreasing life expectancy largely due to so called misery deaths like suicide, alcoholism and drug abuse.

There are a lot of cities which are predominantly white that voted pretty hard democrat. While I agree minorities are voting dems, but so are many educated people in cities and the burbs.

Just because Fox says it doesn't mean it isn't true. We do test the most and do have a high population. It would make sense that many people get it. Doesn't mean people are dying all over the place from it.

Maybe if your Dem leaders hadn't placed covid sick people into nursing homes the death toll would be even lower?


I live in S Cal, know of 100s if not 1000s of people. No one I know of has died from covid or really even gotten that sick from it.

My wife and I, and probably much of S Cal had it back in Jan/Feb as we all got sick with a very strange illness. It swept through all of my bowling leagues for example and we all said it was something we had never felt before. It wasn't really any worse than a normal cold, it just felt different. But it certainly is not this ultra deadly disease that the media makes it out to be. Death rates now are no worse than in the early spring. And it is still people mainly over the age of 70 and who have other health issues who are dying from it. Not the average 1-70 year old who is fairly healthy.


We should all hope to get it so we can be over it, get herd immunity, and move on with our damn lives.

Not really the point. I'm right there with you that to keep the price reasonable when demand is so high you have to build more housing and crappy Democratic governments block this. My point is that demand is so high. People want to live in cities. This is a global phenomenon, not specific to the US.

This. 4 years ago he did nothing but say everyone from Mexico coming into this country were criminals. He was super absent about that this time. I'm shocked he had the discipline to do that, but BLM/socialism/Senate/SCOTUS was plenty to get his base fired up. And not hating on Mexicans and other Latino groups *shockingly* helped his standing with them. Wuddathunk?

Couple points:

- I think the polls that consistently missed on the D side didn't measure R enthusiasm accurately. COVID/crazy changes to ballots in many states didn't likely help polling. But the consistently R pollsters didn't really do much better on first glance. It was just a **** year for polling. Not a bad year for a few of the models that consistently showed the wide range of realistic results though. The ones that had Biden at 98% or whatever likely need to reevaluate how narrowly they interpret poll results vs election probabilities though.

- Trump hate and COVID handling riled up the left for sure. But BLM & Defund the Police likely was a net loss for D side, it motivated many, many R voters.

- Defund the Police was particularly unfortunate. It's not even what it sounds like, and I get why they say it bc "reform the police" didn't do **** after Ferguson and the people demanding change don't care about the appearance of the phrase, they just want justice/change. But it was a horrible label that riled up so many to vote against many Dems. Likely cost Dems the Senate too.

- I assume we'll have a predictions thread, but I'm sure Biden will symbolically remove a lot of executive orders and get some light bipartisan stuff passed in his first 2 years, then Dems will make the case that they need a Senate majority in 2 years and it'll be a heated and consequential midterm.

- Trump will probably have a media show worth 8-9 figures a year, that'll help his liquidity issues. But he'll also likely spend a fortune fighting NY, among others, wrapped up in court for years as "the deep state continues attacking him." Can't imagine him running in 4 more years, what will his health look like by then? How many more voters will be sick of him? Will the BLM type favorabilities and SCOTUS/Senate motivators the Rs had this time be there to help prop him up? Doubtful. He'll keep his strong base of 30% of R voters that worship him, like an expanded Rush, but I think those are his limitations and as long as those people are buying what he's preaching, he'll likely lose interest in the presidency anyways. It's not like he would've ran for president during his super lucrative reality TV series.

This was Sunday. Trump parade. Tons of pics in the article.

https://signalscv.com/2020/11/scv-re...atriot-parade/

We have had numerous Trump parades and rallies for our police the past 6 months. People bring the police lunch spreads every day. BLM came here one day and were shown the exit door quickly and they never came back.

Uh, how much of this is the urbanization of those previously rural parts of the country?

There are a ton of areas within 30 miles of Milwaukee that were nothing but farm fields 20 years ago, and are now what can only be described as suburban paradise. Your McMansion on a 2 acre wooded lot in a subdivision with somehow nothing but cul-de-sacs is now no more than a 10 min drive from any creature comfort you can imagine, plus you can literally leave your doors unlocked and the local police are bored out of their minds. The "poor" people of these communities just live in the new construction rentals while working their way up to McMansion status.

I'd need more data on this one before making any conclusions.

You seem to think that all of the red state Trumpers live in trailers in the back woods of West Virginia.

Check out much of Washington, Waukesha, and Ozaukee Counties in Wisconsin. That's where all of the people who fled Milwaukee proper moved to, and it's "rural" but not really.

What is racist?

Do black men aged 16-30 commit over 50% of all violent crimes despite only having 4% of the population? Yes or no?

Do they commit violence against whites at a rate 20 x that of whites on blacks?

Yes or no?

Do blacks have a fatherless rate at 80%?

Yes or no.

Are a large % of blacks in inner cities illiterate and not graduating HS?

Yes or no?

If you say no, I can give you the peer reviewed studies that show what I said was true.

Maybe if Trump voters didn't try to shove their cultish love of him down everyone else's throat then he might've won re-election.

Maybe if they weren't so condescending and elitist to their opponents saying things like "We are the real Americans!", Trump might've won re-election.

Maybe we should ask poor, rural whites to vote for Biden, because after decades of voting for Republicans, what do you have to lose?

LOL can we repurpose every argument that Trump people used 4 years ago against him now?

Yeah, it's called gentrification and the Left hates it.

We're now crossing over into just differences in the attitudes between generations, I think.

Young people are moving back into the cities, but they're also skipping marriage and children at a much higher rate than the previous generation. Cities aren't so bad if you're living that lone wolf life.