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03-16-2024 , 07:12 AM
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I am pretty sure you actually could fix/reduce it all the time, if you were able to diagnose the problem correctly, and had the will to do what it took to fix it. But progressive ideology pretty much guarantees you will go 0-2 in this respect, so kind of a moot point.
I think sometimes you would start a civil war trying that and you wouldn't necessarily win it every time.
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04-04-2024 , 12:53 PM
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Not looking good here for Buckle locking up dissidents on trumped up charges
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04-07-2024 , 06:29 PM
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04-07-2024 , 06:45 PM
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Whatever his passport program is, he seems to be valuing each passport at a million dollars? Seems a tad overpriced.
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04-07-2024 , 06:51 PM
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Whatever his passport program is, he seems to be valuing each passport at a million dollars? Seems a tad overpriced.
That's apparently the cost. Even in a country like Spain I think it's a 500k investment so yeah I'd say overpriced.
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04-07-2024 , 07:05 PM
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That's apparently the cost. Even in a country like Spain I think it's a 500k investment so yeah I'd say overpriced.
Well, yeah, and it's an investment, not a straight bribe, i.e. you're actually investing in something expecting a return as well as the passport, right? If so, it's a bit disingenuous to say the passport "costs" that.
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04-07-2024 , 07:15 PM
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Well, yeah, and it's an investment, not a straight bribe, i.e. you're actually investing in something expecting a return as well as the passport, right? If so, it's a bit disingenuous to say the passport "costs" that.
Typically the investment gets you permanent residency status and then after a certain number of years of continuously living in your country of choice, you can apply for citizenship.

Some countries will just straight up sell a passport though and El Salvador is one of those. You're right to say that it would be disingenuous to consider the investment a cost for countries that go that route.
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04-07-2024 , 07:30 PM
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Typically the investment gets you permanent residency status and then after a certain number of years of continuously living in your country of choice, you can apply for citizenship.

Some countries will just straight up sell a passport though and El Salvador is one of those. You're right to say that it would be disingenuous to consider the investment a cost for countries that go that route.
I thought the "investment" was into something like property or business in that country. Are you saying it's basically a fee (at least wrt to El Salvador)?
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04-07-2024 , 07:35 PM
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I thought the "investment" was into something like property or business in that country. Are you saying it's basically a fee (at least wrt to El Salvador)?
https://www.reuters.com/world/americ...rs-2023-12-21/
El Salvador's Congress has approved a migration law granting expedited citizenship to foreigners who make bitcoin "donations" to government social and economic development programs.
In a surprise vote late Wednesday evening, the unicameral legislature passed the reform with support from President Nayib Bukele's New Ideas party, which controls Congress. The law is expected to come into force in the coming days.
Bukele is running for re-election in the Central American nation's election, scheduled for Feb. 4.
The reform cites the "vital interest" of the president's development projects, highlighting "altruistic foreigners interested in supporting the economic, social and cultural development of El Salvador ... by donating bitcoin."
The law does not cite any minimum "donation" requirement. Bitcoin on Thursday was trading at $43,741.
So I could be wrong about the cost and it's looking like there are some other programs involving actual investment.
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04-07-2024 , 08:34 PM
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I thought the "investment" was into something like property or business in that country. Are you saying it's basically a fee (at least wrt to El Salvador)?
Many countries sell you passports
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04-07-2024 , 08:36 PM
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Many countries sell you passports
Why would anyone who has USD $1m want to spend it on an El Salvadorian passport? Is it an extradition haven?
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04-07-2024 , 10:53 PM
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is this thread purely to satisfy proof of life requirements for your abductors?
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04-08-2024 , 12:01 PM
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Not looking good here for Buckle locking up dissidents on trumped up charges
Bukele is doing some ****ing up in salvador. He locked up 90k people which is 1% of imo total populationn, many without proper trials.
Thousands of kids witout parenting.
=makes new criminals and gangs. They call him an autocrat.
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