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Does our society have a systemic bias against short men? Does our society have a systemic bias against short men?

11-15-2023 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
Many of my ideas are already in action throughout the world
All the more reason to have a dedicated thread! I might make a pole to see what people think (obvs I am going to interpret the results in my favour regardless of what they are).
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11-15-2023 , 08:10 PM
I'm under 5'5" but I get to mod this forum, so ...?
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11-15-2023 , 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ganstaman
I'm under 5'5" but I get to mod this forum, so ...?
Smaller men seek power to redress the lack of status they feel, which gives us Napoleon, Putin, Tom Cruise, and you.

(edit: haven't seen the new Napoleon film but I've been led to believe he wasn't actually that short and it was just British propaganda, akin to Hitler only having one ball; I'm also sorry for comparing you to those three)
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11-15-2023 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
All the more reason to have a dedicated thread! I might make a pole to see what people think (obvs I am going to interpret the results in my favour regardless of what they are).
I’m retiring this sn soon and starting anew. But you guys (and gals) will know it’s me
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11-15-2023 , 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
I’m retiring this sn soon and starting anew. But you guys (and gals) will know it’s me
I'm sure we will recognise the lion by its claw.
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11-15-2023 , 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by King Spew
Of course, I just got trolled by PW. How else can this be explained?
Hopefully, you got trolled. For his sake.

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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
That’s good man. I don’t think having sex exclusively with the same person for multiple years is enjoyable.
Being married doesn't necessarily mean having sex with only one person. There are a lot of swingers out there. You need to get over all of these limiting beliefs.
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11-15-2023 , 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by King Spew
WOW.

That is a HUGE tell as to WHY you seem to be socially inept.

WOW.

I mean WOW WOW WOW.

I do believe that over 95% (my imagined accurate number) of today's "modern woman" would be deeply offend by your statement I quoted. DEEPLY!

WOW WOW WOW, PW.
you dont think there is societal pressure for a women to lock down a man?

they say I go on too many dates. but I cant make em stay.

why buy the cow when you get the milk for free?

If you liked it then you shoulda put a ring on it

its absolutely embedded in our culture.
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11-15-2023 , 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by campfirewest
Hopefully, you got trolled. For his sake.



Being married doesn't necessarily mean having sex with only one person. There are a lot of swingers out there. You need to get over all of these limiting beliefs.
What does swingers have to do with the fact that most people in marriages aren’t ENM?
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11-16-2023 , 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Go easy on PW, life has dealt him a pretty shitty hand, what with being average height and male.
We should be lauding him for his perseverance in the face of such oppressive adversity.
Does he also have long hair?
Will the persecution ever stop?

The Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Long-haired Men.


Last edited by steamraise; 11-16-2023 at 06:58 AM.
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11-16-2023 , 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ganstaman
I'm under 5'5" but I get to mod this forum, so ...?

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11-16-2023 , 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by DonkJr
I am a pretty short guy at 5'8"

(1) Short dudes tend to dwell on their height, especially when they are younger during their formative years. Earlier in the thread, I said it is similar to fat women, but that isn't exactly true, as it is not socially acceptable to dunk on fat women. Short men are inundated with the idea that they are inferior because they are short, both in real life and in the media. That affects a dude's confidence when it is most important. Also, it is really easy for a guy that is 6'2" to come into a thread on 2p2 and say that height doesn't matter, when nobody has drilled into that guy's head from when he was young that he was less of a man because of something as arbitrary as his height.

(2) Now, this is in the politics forum, so I guess the question is whether there is any government policy that can or should be implemented regarding this issue. The answer is no. In life, some people will have advantages over others. Part of growing up is recognizing that, and dealing with it.

(3)If you are a man in America, you have more opportunity to overcome any perceived disadvantage than any other person in the world. Height may impart a small advantage, but the major things that matter for a successful man are that he have a pleasant personality, that he is successful in his career, and that he is able to make money. This goes for your career, love life, politics, whatever. A short winner will always do better than a tall loser. If you are a short guy, it behooves you to remember that you are not going to get ahead because of your height, so you have to do better at the things that really matter, which are luckily things that you can mostly control.

In summary, if you are a shorter guy in this world, you have to recognize that height is not what determines whether you are a "real man." You may be inundated with that by idea all the time by what is around you, but it is only a small thing in the grand scheme of things. A real man, especially in America, is somebody that is successful. If you are a short guy that goes out there, busts your ass at a high-skill trade with high earning ability, you are doing way better than a tall guy that is coasting by. If you are a short guy that works out and dresses well, you are doing way better than the tall guy that looks like he came out of a homeless shelter. If you are a short guy that everybody loves to be around, you are doing way better than a tall guy that is unpleasant to be around. If you are not these things, then you better get to work on them, whether you are short, tall, or in between.

Good luck!
Something needs to be done about this blatant discrimination! Those of us with unpleasant personalities are just as deserving of love and respect. Screw all you ignorant Pollyannas who disagree.
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11-16-2023 , 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by campfirewest
This implies women only give head to lock a guy down and get married. How do you explain all the lifelong single women who love to give head?
How do you find all these women??
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11-16-2023 , 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
How do you find all these women??
Lots of options, but you can start by going to any yoga class in Colorado.
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11-16-2023 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
Do you think current marriage systems in the west are fair for men?

Can you define feminism?
I actually had a long and thought out response to both of these questions, then realized it was "pointless".

I think d2 has it right. I need to appreciate your work here for the entertainment value. Although your posts and ideas are both really bad and really stupid, it's like a really bad B movie. So bad it's good.
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11-16-2023 , 12:20 PM
Ok so you can’t define feminism.
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11-16-2023 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
Ok so you can’t define feminism.
LOL, I can tell you want it isn't. it isn't anything you've posted. It certainly isn't he government providing women for men.

Any feminist, strike that. Any woman I've ever met would be disgusted by any of your viewpoints on women.
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11-16-2023 , 12:31 PM
btw, I've worked out my entire life and am still pretty thin. I'm thinking about starting a thread about how unfair society is to ectomorphs.

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11-16-2023 , 12:39 PM
Short men and ectomorphs need to man tf up
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11-16-2023 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by biggerboat
LOL, I can tell you want it isn't. it isn't anything you've posted. It certainly isn't he government providing women for men.

Any feminist, strike that. Any woman I've ever met would be disgusted by any of your viewpoints on women.
Feminism isn’t a women thing. It means equality between the sexes. That’s it.

What is the problem with the govt paying women to have sex with men?
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11-16-2023 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
Short men and ectomorphs need to man tf up
Any short ectomorph who trains BJJ for a few years will be able to give most sand-kicking bullies the surprise of their life.
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11-16-2023 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
Feminism isn’t a women thing. It means equality between the sexes. That’s it.
Oh. You might want to inform every major dictionary, Wikipedia, and a lot of other people.
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11-16-2023 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Oh. You might want to inform every major dictionary, Wikipedia, and a lot of other people.

I think you just need to learn to read or understand words more fluently.

Here is the definition


the advocacy of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes.

What does equality mean? It means 50/50


This is from Wikipedia

Feminism is a range of socio-political movements and ideologies that aim to define and establish the political, economic, personal, and social equality of the sexes.[a]


So , you’re wrong
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11-16-2023 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
I think you just need to learn to read or understand words more fluently.

Here is the definition

the advocacy of women's rights
Indeed.

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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
on the basis of the equality of the sexes.

What does equality mean? It means 50/50
Not in dispute.

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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
This is from Wikipedia

Feminism is a range of socio-political movements and ideologies that aim to define and establish the political, economic, personal, and social equality of the sexes.[a]
And here's the entire first paragraph, including the part you conveniently left off.

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Feminism is a range of socio-political movements and ideologies that aim to define and establish the political, economic, personal, and social equality of the sexes.[a][2][3][4][5] Feminism holds the position that societies prioritize the male point of view and that women are treated unjustly in these societies.[6] Efforts to change this include fighting against gender stereotypes and improving educational, professional, and interpersonal opportunities and outcomes for women.
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
So , you’re wrong
After going down this road with jbouton a few times, who also loves to use odd definitions and then argue about them, I'm not going to waste a lot of time with you on this. I'll just say that if you're going to take one element of sexual equality (feminism), and try to use it as an all-encompassing term for sexual equality, you're just going to confuse people and/or derail conversations with arguments about it.
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11-16-2023 , 05:05 PM
Who had "equality of the sexes"? I mean, I sure thought it was going to be a different definition, boy do I feel silly now.
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11-16-2023 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by campfirewest
Lots of options, but you can start by going to any yoga class in Colorado.
I actually go to yoga classes, but they seem to not be good for connecting, I feel bad interrupting the relaxing new age music.
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