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Originally Posted by Slighted
i supplied a jokey answer, but really i guess it may depend on what you call "forgiven". am i ok with people taking her statues/plaques/portraits down, absolutely. do we need a special "kate smith" category under famous racists in history, probably not.
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1. Did you know about her 1945 tolerance comments?
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1. nope, did she give away all the money she made on her songs to african american charities?
An odd answer to a straightforward, non hostile yes or no question. The question was did you know about the comments. You apparently answered a different question, like maybe do you accept her comments as being sincere. Seemingly your answer should have been, it doesn’t matter to me what said in 1945 if she didn’t give all her money to Afro-American charities, it is the only path to redemption for her.
2. Would you change either answer if 80% of black Americans forgave her?
Why not? The vast majority of people most directly affected forgiving her seems like a powerful signal that maybe it is time to move on to more important issues that are more significant. Of course this a hypothetical. Another hypothetical, say 80% of Afro-Americans thought that removing her statue was not nearly sufficient. The Flyers should donate a substantial amount of money, 10s of millions, to charities/organizations that benefit Afro-Americans. That would be another powerful signal that removing the statue is a significant event in the civil rights quest, that we need to have a lot more conversations about rectifying the past.
3. Would you pretend to change your answer and proclaim your forgiveness to the world (confiding in no one for the rest of your life) if you somehow knew that proclamation was the single reason Trump was not reelected?
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3.is this like a bastardized "is it worth it to kill 1 person to save 1000's" scenario? would i lie to people about my values to guarantee trump isn't re-elected? idk, possibly.
To end the oppression of minorities by TRUMP you would have reservations about compromising your publicly stated values? There is a question in your mind of whether or not your publicly stated values are more important than ending the oppression of minorities by TRUMP, really?
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Three questions:
1. Did you know about her 1945 tolerance comments?
2. Would you change either answer if 80% of black Americans forgave her?
3. Would you pretend to change your answer and proclaim your forgiveness to the world (confiding in no one for the rest of your life) if you somehow knew that proclamation was the single reason Trump was not reelected?
Last edited by adios; 04-30-2019 at 06:25 AM.