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Does the high frequency of minorities in advertising signal racism is overblown? Does the high frequency of minorities in advertising signal racism is overblown?

11-28-2023 , 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
asking for a friend
Your lady's boyfriend?

I think it's where the woman watches her man do sex with another woman.
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11-29-2023 , 04:36 PM
No, racism is still very much pervasive in society today. This is why Critical Race Theory was created in order to combat the racism
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11-29-2023 , 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ES2
Your lady's boyfriend?

I think it's where the woman watches her man do sex with another woman.
That’s a cuckold
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12-03-2023 , 11:09 PM
The original Jake from State Farm was a white guy, right?

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12-05-2023 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Isn't all this proves is that brown people are, on average, better looking?

White adults are fine but damn those white babies come out looking like goblins
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12-05-2023 , 05:37 PM


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12-06-2023 , 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by muttiah
White adults are fine but damn those white babies come out looking like goblins
One of the reasons for reasonable representation of black men in advertising is because they look good with minimal upkeep. Like for example , isaiah mustafa in the old spice commercials naturally , with minimal lighting and makeup adjustments looks very… appealing.

On the other hand black women are still underrepresented in the mainstream media.
In part, or rather the main problem in my opinion is because there aren’t enough makeup artists and hair stylists in the industry who understand black hair and black make up for women, there just aren’t enough. I was thinking about this in nyc a few weeks ago; I also wouldn’t know enough about black hair/makeup for runway shows/ commercials. I’m not a professional makeup artist but if I was I would be part of the problem.

It’s unknown why there is prohibitive shortage of available talent in the fashion industry for black hair/makeup but there is. I don’t know why there is a shortage but first guess would be racist hiring practices for makeup artists at the major houses.
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12-08-2023 , 10:29 PM
My teacher at film school said Hollywood doesn’t like black movies and since hollywood execs don’t like them, they don’t make money. And if you can’t make money you can’t make movies.
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12-09-2023 , 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
My teacher at film school said Hollywood doesn’t like black movies and since hollywood execs don’t like them, they don’t make money. And if you can’t make money you can’t make movies.
I've heard this is mainly a problem overseas. Specifically that Denzel doesn't draw a lot of people overseas.

Just a quick search turned up this article.


https://reason.com/2012/04/23/foreig...he-black-cast/
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12-12-2023 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ES2
I've heard this is mainly a problem overseas. Specifically that Denzel doesn't draw a lot of people overseas.

Just a quick search turned up this article.


https://reason.com/2012/04/23/foreig...he-black-cast/
My teacher from film school is more of an expert than the person that wrote that article.
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12-20-2023 , 02:28 AM
We have had a similar phenomena in the UK, exemplified by the race storm on twitter recently involving BBC presenter Nihal Arthanayake.



What Nihal fails to appreciate is not everywhere in the UK is London, which is 53% white. He's currently working in the north of England which is around 90% white. Nonetheless, the BBC have a racial diversity target in that region of 20%. Such targets are impossible to achieve without discriminating against people on the basis of their skin colour. or persuading people to move from London.

As far as TV presence goes, BAME people are over-represented in UK television.



I could go either way on the arguments here. I think people should feel represented in society. I think it's a problem in the UK that so few Eastern European people are on TV, when they make up a similar proportion of the UK population as black people. I cannot think of one outside of Strictly Come Dancing.

On the other hand, if people are getting jobs on the basis of skin colour, that's discrimination.
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12-20-2023 , 10:03 AM
So you proved that you can help people by discriminating against people that have more resources in society. Good job.
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12-20-2023 , 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
So you proved that you can help people by discriminating against people that have more resources in society. Good job.
Not sure how Nihal earning £200k a year at the BBC helps a BAME family living in poverty, but okay.
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12-20-2023 , 12:12 PM
All other things being equal it is probably better for UK society for non-whites to be somewhat overrepresented in public facing roles. Whether it is worth discriminating against whites somewhat to achieve that is a matter of taste I guess.

With regard to Arthanayake in particular, I think he’s embarrassing himself to be honest.
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12-21-2023 , 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Trakk
All other things being equal it is probably better for UK society for non-whites to be somewhat overrepresented in public facing roles. Whether it is worth discriminating against whites somewhat to achieve that is a matter of taste I guess.

With regard to Arthanayake in particular, I think he’s embarrassing himself to be honest.
Yeah, that's my take on both counts.
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12-21-2023 , 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Trakk
All other things being equal it is probably better for UK society for non-whites to be somewhat overrepresented in public facing roles.
How is it better?
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12-21-2023 , 11:55 AM
Because many people feel it is important that their ethnicity is represented in society. Eg they like to see successful people of their ethnicity on TV/radio. I’m not saying that is a good or bad thing, but certainly many people feel that way. There is no danger that white people are going to feel that their ethnicity isn't represented (in the UK specifically) so we can afford for them to be somewhat underrepresented relative to overall population, in order to ensure other ethnicities do feel represented.
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12-21-2023 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Trakk
Because many people feel it is important that their ethnicity is represented in society.
But you said "it is probably better for UK society for non-whites to be somewhat overrepresented".
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12-21-2023 , 12:32 PM
Well yes, because some minorities are such a small percentage of the population. Eg black people (for example) make up 3% of UK population. If individual black people are to feel represented, we probably need greater than 3% of black people in these prominent roles.
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12-21-2023 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Didace
But you said "it is probably better for UK society for non-whites to be somewhat overrepresented".

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12-21-2023 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Trakk
Well yes, because some minorities are such a small percentage of the population. Eg black people (for example) make up 3% of UK population. If individual black people are to feel represented, we probably need greater than 3% of black people in these prominent roles.
That makes no sense to me. Wouldn't that lead to minorities believing they were a bigger % of the population? And then to feel adequately "represented" they'd need to see even more people in these "prominent roles"?
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12-21-2023 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Didace
That makes no sense to me. Wouldn't that lead to minorities believing they were a bigger % of the population? And then to feel adequately "represented" they'd need to see even more people in these "prominent roles"?
Right now they are unfairly represented and mistreated due to public perception of non white people. By putting more non white people into more conspicuous places , public perception of non whites will change for the better and everyone will get along and we can focus on other issues.
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12-21-2023 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Didace
That makes no sense to me. Wouldn't that lead to minorities believing they were a bigger % of the population? And then to feel adequately "represented" they'd need to see even more people in these "prominent roles"?
I don’t disagree with that. It would explain Arthanayake’s comments.
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12-21-2023 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Trakk
Well yes, because some minorities are such a small percentage of the population. Eg black people (for example) make up 3% of UK population. If individual black people are to feel represented, we probably need greater than 3% of black people in these prominent roles.
This is tokenism, and it is a white person's racist head-pat view.
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12-21-2023 , 04:33 PM
Meh plenty of minorities would agree with it so I don’t think it’s fair to call it a white racist view. Plenty of minorities would disagree with it as well of course.
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