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Do you believe racism exists and is a problem in the US medical system? Do you believe racism exists and is a problem in the US medical system?
View Poll Results: Does statically significant racism exist in US medicine?
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02-11-2024 , 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
sure, but in america, white people have the most power. and they have used it to make black and brown peoples lives hell in america. Making alcohol legal but then having weed and coke be illegal is a travesty and a prime example of racism in the US. Segregated schools and pool/ public areas is another example.


Also are their any races/ethnic groups that hold black or african american people to a high regard? I'm sure we can rank which races hate on black people the most, can we find evidence of the opposite?
Dude, there are many white people in prison for coke and weed. I personally think drugs should be legal but give me a break. Also, you just made a racist statement by implying that only black and brown people smoke weed and use coke. Be careful.

As for segregation. Well, ya, it was racist. It was also 60-70 years ago. I have Irish and Native American blood coursing through my veins. I don't wake up every day and blame the English for torturing my people. I do what I need to do to survive.

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Also are their any races/ethnic groups that hold black or african american people to a high regard?
Yes, affluent white people who live in coastal cities. I could offer a ethnic group breakdown on the views towards AA but I'll pass. I again will say that the most racist (towards American blacks) are undoubtably immigrants from other countries. I'm sure rednecks in the South are up there as well but I generally avoid large collections of low IQ people as much as possible so I can't give much first hand experience.

Last edited by sublime; 02-11-2024 at 10:35 AM.
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02-11-2024 , 10:41 AM
Saying black and brown people use cannabis and coke more than other races is not a racist statement

I am not saying one race is better than another. I dont think you understand what racism means

are you trying to say the War on drugs wasnt racist? and its because white people are in prison for coke and weed? Nobody said they werent lmao, we are discussing if it is done fairly or if there is another factor (race) thats in play

nice try on the derail however.

affluent white people on the coast hold african americans in high regard? cite please. I am sure some of them act like they do, but the reality and their actions are different
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02-11-2024 , 10:47 AM
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Saying black and brown people use cannabis and coke more than other races is not a racist statement
What about saying black and brown people commit more crime, have more kids out of wedlock and score lower on IQ tests?

Are those racist statements? You can't have it both ways with statistics.

I don't frequent these forums much, but I'm beginning to see why every response to one of your posts is negative.

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affluent white people on the coast hold african americans in high regard? cite please. I am sure some of them act like they do, but the reality and their actions are different
Okay then, they have no fans. I mean I don't know what you're looking for here other than to spew pointless words.
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02-11-2024 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by sublime
What about saying black and brown people commit more crime, have more kids out of wedlock and score lower on IQ tests?

Are those racist statements? You can't have it both ways with statistics.

I don't frequent these forums much, but I'm beginning to see why every response to one of your posts is negative.



Okay then, they have no fans. I mean I don't know what you're looking for here other than to spew pointless words.
I mean its basically impossible to prove who does more crime. We can prove who is arrested more often , is that what youre trying to discuss?

Those statements arent saying one race is better or worse than the other, besides the false statement you made about african americans commiting the most crimes

most crimes are commited by the police and by large corporations who commit wage theft and defraud the government

civil forfeiture by police on an annual basis is larger than all of the larceny across the US COMBINED


so unless the police and major corporations are run by black people who then profit from these acts, your statement is false

white people commit the most crimes, they just arent arrested for them as often. I mean we life in a mostly white country, that would make sense that white people commit the most crimes. and we live in a post racist slave society, we havent even had equal rights for 100 years, so of course lingering racism will be evident with arrest statistics

Does that make sense to you?
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02-11-2024 , 11:00 AM
"it's impossible to prove who does more crime" roflmao
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02-11-2024 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
"it's impossible to prove who does more crime" roflmao
ok I take that back

arrest records do not mean one group is committing more crimes. It means one group is being arrested for more crimes.

Do you understand the difference or do you need help?
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02-11-2024 , 04:53 PM
Well we don't know about all crimes, but I think it's safe to say we know that one group is murdering their women more than the other.

I wonder if that tracks to other illegal activities...
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02-11-2024 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
Well we don't know about all crimes, but I think it's safe to say we know that one group is murdering their women more than the other.

I wonder if that tracks to other illegal activities...
Unless everyone is doing it the same amount. Seems like white people killed the most native Americans
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02-11-2024 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
Unless everyone is doing it the same amount. Seems like white people killed the most native Americans
That's certainly true , uncontroversial, and not racist, until you realize that native Americans actually killed more native Americans throughout history.

But in terms of intensity whites killed them in less time sure.
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02-11-2024 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
That's certainly true , uncontroversial, and not racist, until you realize that native Americans actually killed more native Americans throughout history.

But in terms of intensity whites killed them in less time sure.
It's not true. There are more native americans now than there were pre-contact. Population has grown.
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02-11-2024 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
It's not true. There are more native americans now than there were pre-contact. Population has grown.
Are you trolling here?
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02-11-2024 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
That's certainly true , uncontroversial, and not racist, until you realize that native Americans actually killed more native Americans throughout history.

But in terms of intensity whites killed them in less time sure.
Maybe. But does that mean American govt bears no responsibility for their genocide?
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02-11-2024 , 06:24 PM
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Maybe. But does that mean American govt bears no responsibility for their genocide?
I think it does which is even something governments admitted repeatedly, and natives now have exceptional legal privileges vs other citizens as a reparation for past government sponsored crimes against their ancestors.
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02-11-2024 , 06:30 PM
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Are you trolling here?
Nope that is actual truth. 500 years is a long time.
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02-11-2024 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Nope that is actual truth. 500 years is a long time.
How many native American do you think there were in 1600 versus in 2000
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02-11-2024 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
How many native American do you think there were in 1600 versus in 2000
You can do the googling if you want.
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02-11-2024 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Nope that is actual truth. 500 years is a long time.
I am asking if you are trolling because how many people there are now vs 1500 doesn't in any way tell us how many were killed and by whom.

It's like claiming the cultural revolution genocide in China never happened because there are more han Chinese in china today than there were in 1965
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02-11-2024 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
I am asking if you are trolling because how many people there are now vs 1500 doesn't in any way tell us how many were killed and by whom.

It's like claiming the cultural revolution genocide in China never happened because there are more han Chinese in china today than there were in 1965
The claim was that white people killed most of the native americans--I am merely pointing out that this is an impossibility given the indigenous population today.
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02-11-2024 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
The claim was that white people killed most of the native americans--I am merely pointing out that this is an impossibility given the indigenous population today.
I wrote they killed them more intensively (more per year), than natives were regularly killing each other's (as humans always do everywhere) before

From my understanding of English writing "killing the most" means killing them more than other people did, not killing most of them
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02-11-2024 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
I wrote they killed them more intensively (more per year), than natives were regularly killing each other's (as humans always do everywhere) before

From my understanding of English writing "killing the most" means killing them more than other people did, not killing most of them
You're right. I missed that it was "the most" and not just "most".
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02-11-2024 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
How many native American do you think there were in 1600 versus in 2000
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
You can do the googling if you want.
There’s a place I can find via Google that tells me your opinions?
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02-11-2024 , 06:59 PM
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When do you think it’s correct to call people racist?
Maybe when they make disparaging statements about people based on race or do something harming people based on race.

Definitely not when they just disagree with you about how much racism is a problem in a particular area, or when they dispute your "facts".
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02-11-2024 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
sure, but in america, white people have the most power. and they have used it to make black and brown peoples lives hell in america. Making alcohol legal but then having weed and coke be illegal is a travesty and a prime example of racism in the US. Segregated schools and pool/ public areas is another example.
This is clearly ridiculous. I think it's stupid for marijuana to be illegal, but it's used by more white people than black, and I can't imagine even the percentage is much different.

Cocaine is definitely more dangerous than either of the other things, and if only one drug were to be illegal, that's the one that should be IMO.
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02-11-2024 , 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
Saying black and brown people use cannabis and coke more than other races is not a racist statement

I am not saying one race is better than another. I dont think you understand what racism means

are you trying to say the War on drugs wasnt racist? and its because white people are in prison for coke and weed? Nobody said they werent lmao, we are discussing if it is done fairly or if there is another factor (race) thats in play

nice try on the derail however.

affluent white people on the coast hold african americans in high regard? cite please. I am sure some of them act like they do, but the reality and their actions are different
He didn't say that, and that wasn't what you asked. The "war on drugs" is over now as far as I can tell, and pretty irrelevant to the current conversation.
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02-11-2024 , 07:13 PM
Agree to disagree. Your version of reality is different than mine. Cocaine is not as dangerous as alcohol you have to be joking
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