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Do you believe racism exists and is a problem in the US medical system? Do you believe racism exists and is a problem in the US medical system?
View Poll Results: Does statically significant racism exist in US medicine?
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02-10-2024 , 09:50 AM
My apologies, wasn't sure if you were serious or not.
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02-10-2024 , 10:57 AM
They prove Asians kill too and again stop smoking that shatter, it's clearly affecting you and not in a good way.
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02-10-2024 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
They prove Asians kill too and again stop smoking that shatter, it's clearly affecting you and not in a good way.
I dont think anyone was arguing otherwise in the least
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02-10-2024 , 11:43 AM
Yeah okay arble garble
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02-10-2024 , 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
And what if one group is killing much more of their own kind than the others
Then its the fault of white men, obviously.
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02-10-2024 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
Keep in mind even at x2.6 (black women mortality rate in childbirth vs other women, the guy wrote 400% but the number is 2.6x, so 260% more, perhaps 400% is rounding 360% dunno) it's still a very rare event so it's more about what happens in those very rare cases, and what can increase propensity for actual death events in those very rare cases.
I'm not sure whose argument this helps, but just to correct some math here, 2.6x is a 160% increase, not 260%.
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02-10-2024 , 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
I'm not sure whose argument this helps, but just to correct some math here, 2.6x is a 160% increase, not 260%.
PW wrote early in the thread "400% higher", for black vs white maternal mortality.

Anyway it's 2.6x so "160% higher"

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02-11-2024 , 12:10 AM
So the whole point of this thread is that white people are subject to racism in the medical field?

Man, that's f!cked up.
There are a lot of messed up white people in America.
America is screw'd.
And, wait for it. You people are deplorable.
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02-11-2024 , 12:26 AM
Oops. According to a 2018 Study, on!y 56% of practicing physicians are white even though, according to a2023 study, white people make up 63.8 % of the population.
And, get this, Black physicians are whoping 5%, even though they make up 12.3 of the total population. So, 63 percent but only56 percent of physicians? Something stinks. I call out bill*****, hmm , Racism!
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02-11-2024 , 12:58 AM
Why do racists get so offended when we try to provide equivalent minimum levels of equity to Americans?


The same people that call liberals snowflakes are the same people coming in this thread and passive aggressively complaining
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02-11-2024 , 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
Why do racists get so offended when we try to provide equivalent minimum levels of equity to Americans?


The same people that call liberals snowflakes are the same people coming in this thread and passive aggressively complaining
Why do weirdos make threads asking a question when what they're really trying to do is lecture us on what they think (while spreading completely inaccurate information) and then call anyone with a different opinion racists?
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02-11-2024 , 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
Why do weirdos make threads asking a question when what they're really trying to do is lecture us on what they think (while spreading completely inaccurate information) and then call anyone with a different opinion racists?
When do you think it’s correct to call people racist?
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02-11-2024 , 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
Why do racists get so offended when we try to provide equivalent minimum levels of equity to Americans?


The same people that call liberals snowflakes are the same people coming in this thread and passive aggressively complaining
You have the most apt screen name in the history of screen names.
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02-11-2024 , 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
When do you think it’s correct to call people racist?
Me, personally?

When I hear people use slurs or things of that nature, even veiled slurs. I really try to treat people as individuals and find people who talk like that to be repulsive.

I don't label people 'racist' when they defend white people and/or point out that certain inequalities in race data are actually due to said race making poor life choices. Like in this case, black women being more likely to be morbidly obese at childbirth. It's not the fault of other races, namely white people.

At some point, a person (or collections of persons) needs to own up to certain responsibilities and stop blaming all their ails on others. If you label that statement racist, then you are, imo, a snowflake.
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02-11-2024 , 09:42 AM
Which ails that black people have are a result of white policies?


Interesting. What responsibilities do white people need to own up to and stop blaming black people for?


Are they any other times you think people are racist or you call them racist in your head besides when they say slurs?


Do you think people that get offended when you call them racist are snowflakes ?
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02-11-2024 , 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
Which ails that black people have are a result of white policies?


Interesting. What responsibilities do white people need to own up to and stop blaming black people for?
Question 1:

Sentencing for prison terms springs to mind. Crack vs powder cocaine guidelines clearly built to punish blacks.

Question 2:

I don't really have an answer. White people probably complain about blacks committing more crimes but you've structured your question in a way that makes it seem like its white people fault that they do.

I grew up poor. I committed crimes, I went to jail and I stopped and started following the law. I believe every person in this country can do the same. If they don't, it's nobody's fault but their own.

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Are they any other times you think people are racist or you call them racist in your head besides when they say slurs?
Probably no, because I don't search for racism. I have a life to live.

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Do you think people that get offended when you call them racist are snowflakes ?
No, because the label has, or soon will, lose all its power due to people on the left throwing it around as much as they do. I have zero doubt that my views on life in USA would be labeled racist by a reasonable amount of people. I don't view that as my problem though. The goalposts have been moved to such a degree over the past ten years or so that if you say anything that doesn't jive with the main stream medias view on race you catch the racist label.

Last edited by sublime; 02-11-2024 at 10:05 AM.
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02-11-2024 , 10:01 AM
Do you think it's useful to have such a wide definition of racism, that most people in most countries would be defined as racist under your labelling?

I mean i get it that you call racist anyone that doesn't exactly agree with your particular extremely radical left definition of racism, but did it ever help you in any conversation with someone you didn't agree with?
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02-11-2024 , 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
Do you think it's useful to have such a wide definition of racism, that most people in most countries would be defined as racist under your labelling?

I mean i get it that you call racist anyone that doesn't exactly agree with your particular extremely radical left definition of racism, but did it ever help you in any conversation with someone you didn't agree with?
You can't help a racist though. They can only help themselves and most for too far gone. The only thing left is ridicule and name calling.
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02-11-2024 , 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by sublime
Question 1:

Sentencing for prison terms springs to mind. Crack vs powder cocaine guidelines clearly built to punish blacks.

Question 2:

I don't really have an answer. White people probably complain about blacks committing more crimes but you've structured your question in a way that makes it seem like its white people fault that they do.

I grew up poor. I committed crimes, I went to jail and I stopped and started following the law. I believe every person in this country can do the same. If they don't, it's nobody's fault but their own.



Probably no, because I don't search for racism. I have a life to live.



No, because the label has, or soon will, lose all its power due to people on the left throwing it around as much as they do. I have zero doubt that my views on life in USA would be labeled racist by a reasonable amount of people. I don't view that as my problem though. The goalposts have been moved to such a degree over the past ten years or so that if you say anything that doesn't jive with the main stream medias view on race you catch the racist label.
You first proposed that "At some point, a person (or collections of persons) needs to own up to certain responsibilities and stop blaming all their ails on others"

I merely asked you for clarification, and then you felt like I was asking a ridiculous question. Perhaps your statement is correctly identified as ridiculous then since you dont support the question being asked?

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Originally Posted by Luciom
Do you think it's useful to have such a wide definition of racism, that most people in most countries would be defined as racist under your labelling?

I mean i get it that you call racist anyone that doesn't exactly agree with your particular extremely radical left definition of racism, but did it ever help you in any conversation with someone you didn't agree with?
I dont have my own definition of racism, I use the dictionaries definition. I dont call anyone racist that doesnt exactly agree, I call people racist when they do things that shows they believe one race is better than another

essentially when white people have rules for thee but not for me based on skin color, and its negatively effects people that have melanin in their skin, I think that's racist.
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02-11-2024 , 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
Do you think it's useful to have such a wide definition of racism, that most people in most countries would be defined as racist under your labelling?

I mean i get it that you call racist anyone that doesn't exactly agree with your particular extremely radical left definition of racism, but did it ever help you in any conversation with someone you didn't agree with?
I've lived on both coasts in the USA and one thing I can tell you is that in my experience the most racist people (towards American blacks) are definitely not American white people. First generation immigrants from other countries are not huge fans and really hold no shame in their views.
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02-11-2024 , 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by sublime
I've lived on both coasts in the USA and one thing I can tell you is that in my experience the most racist people (towards American blacks) are definitely not American white people. First generation immigrants from other countries are not huge fans and really hold no shame in their views.
sure, but in america, white people have the most power. and they have used it to make black and brown peoples lives hell in america. Making alcohol legal but then having weed and coke be illegal is a travesty and a prime example of racism in the US. Segregated schools and pool/ public areas is another example.


Also are their any races/ethnic groups that hold black or african american people to a high regard? I'm sure we can rank which races hate on black people the most, can we find evidence of the opposite?
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02-11-2024 , 10:20 AM
In a modern context, medical racism and its history has created a deep distrust of health professionals and their practices in marginalized racial and ethnic groups. Studies within the last couple decades have elucidated varied treatment from health professionals still occurring that reveal racial biases. These racial biases have impacted the way in which substances such as painkillers are prescribed or the rate at which diagnostic tests are given.[2] Black patients in particular have a long history of contrasting medical treatment based on different perceptions of the pain thresholds of Black people.[4][5] However, medical racism has not been limited to Black people in the United States. While infamous studies like the Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male may be known, the U.S. Public Health Service Sexually Transmitted Disease (STD) Inoculation Study of 1946-1948 notably impacted Guatemalan prisoners, sex workers, soldiers, and mental health patients in a detrimental fashion by purposely infecting victims with STDs such as syphilis and gonorrhea.[2] The push to forcibly sterilize Indigenous women as young as 15 years old occurred from 1970 to 1976 by the Indian Health Service as revealed in researcher Jane Lawrence's paper "The Indian Health Service and the Sterilization of Native American Women."[2] These are only a few examples of the many that exist in American history of the unethical actions of health care providers, researchers, and government entities pertaining to the health services of minority groups.[2]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medica..._United_States



everyone should read this article. unless you dont care about racism in the US medical system ofc. If you cared, you would read it.

If you dont care, and racism is proven to exist, what does that say about someone who has proof racism is real but chooses to believe a delusional version of the truth?
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