If you have the cash and are obese you still die of childbirth more than if you are poor and of normal weight.

Poverty matters but obesity matters even more.

Agreed but obesity rate are higher in the poor as its cheaper to feed your family junk

No I do not. But it’s better to write those things than say it’s correlated and thus

it depends.

for whites yes, as rich whites tend to be more selective about how much and what they eat, and exercise.

for black women, income doesn't matter for obesity.

it was in the paper I screenshot, obese women more at risk for a list of things that can kill you when you give birth

Was it 6 years ago when you began to hold the view for a universal basic vagina?

If these numbers are true:
And these numbers are true:
Then unless all white women are under or normal weight and all black women are obese, there is something more going on than this:
Are there studies that compare child birth mortality rates by race that controls for weight?

Maybe ten years. I promote the right to have the govt provide sex workers for you. I took the idea from the Europeans

“However, the right to sexuality does not make for easy conversation, whether at the dinner table or in public policy arenas. Controversy engulfs the issue, and many citizens object to using tax dollars to support such a risque business. But advocates, including academics, social workers and doctors, respond that it's not about supporting the sex business, but is rather promoting a right and addressing health issues.”


https://www.mic.com/articles/85201/t...abled-have-sex

Yes there is poverty, underlying health conditions (linked to poverty but not exclusively) and so on as well.

Lack of optimal emergency healthcare in black neighboors might be part of the co-causal explanations as well (perhaps entirely explained by poverty though).

Keep in mind even at x2.6 (black women mortality rate in childbirth vs other women, the guy wrote 400% but the number is 2.6x, so 260% more, perhaps 400% is rounding 360% dunno) it's still a very rare event so it's more about what happens in those very rare cases, and what can increase propensity for actual death events in those very rare cases.

Lower education might play a role in cases like "you would have been better off going to the hospital sooner but weren't informed that was the case".

For some cases lack of coverage (which is higher among blacks, but as we explained elsewhere almost exclusively as an elective choice except for people between 75 and 100% of the poverty level in 10 states) can be an original co-causeof death in childbirth if the lack of coverage means you don't discover problems that are observable (and a solution can be planned for) before childbirth and you discover them at the end instead.

Ie there are a ton of usual things concurring but obesity is the first main one; rest is the typical problem when trying to call worse outcome in blacks racism. Poverty and education correlate basically with every good outcome in life we can care about, and blacks are poorer and less educated.

It's not a very smart request though. Just legalize sex work , and in case you think poor people deserve money to satisfy their basic needs, give poor people money then they choose if sex for cash is something they want more than better shelter or a better mattress or better food or whatever they might prefer.

Same as food stamps are worse than just giving cash basically.

A specific example is regarding pain medication:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...0(1%E2%80%9310).

This is the kind of example that seems to make sense would connect with potential racial biases.

Could be also that white people love their opioids.

It's easier to feed your family junk, but I disagree that it is cheaper. The crap that I see most obese people eating is not that cheap.

A provocative statement for sure. Not too sure how I feel about it

This seems like black people getting better health care to me. No one is dying from pain, but they are dying from pain killers.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...0with%20whites.

Ethnic differences in pain perception have been documented in a variety of clinical pain conditions, generally indicating that, for a given condition that is characterized by persistent pain complaints, African–Americans report greater pain and suffering when compared with whites.

I would have thought it was just black people being tougher but apparently that's not the case.

I don't put much stock in studies where people rate their own levels of pain. It's totally subjective as no one knows the feelings of anyone else.

Theoretically I could suffer more pain every minute of my life than any other human has ever suffered, but I wouldn't know it and neither could anyone else.

No. Never experienced this in my life and I spent a lot of time in the Bronx

Serial killer Dr Kermit Gosnell treated white patients better than minorities, according to testimony.
https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia...abies-breathe/

Drawing conclusions from statistics is how headlines as idiotic as this are written:

Black women in the US murdered six times more often than White women over last 20 years. The racial inequity was greatest in Wisconsin, where in 2019–20, Black women aged 25–44 years were 20 times more likely to die by homicide than White women.

Then you read the actual study and find out that it's just a bunch of black dudes killing a lot of black women. White guys are falling way behind their quota.

Maybe there are other factors in play that cause inequity in Black health outcomes that have absolutely nothing to do with the "US medical system" and a lot to do with how different subcultures in American society operate.

Why does it matter who killed them lmao??

so blacks are being helped to avoid painkiller addiction, that's anti white racism if anything.

cereal heavy calory sources are suboptimal and very abused by poor people normally, but in the USA (where "poor people" actually have more disposable income than the Bulgarian middle class), that's different.

like if a family drinks soda regularly with meals it's a monstrosity beyond belief and in Italy It approximately never happens (among actual Italians with 4 Italian grandparents for adults heads of family), in the USA... I am told that's fairly common

tbh we don't have anything else than subjective ranking of pain to go with

if it's black men killing black women, you can't claim the cause is racism can you?

you could actually claim opposite stuff which the left doesn't like very much