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Do conservatives want to ban transition care for all transgender people, not just children? Do conservatives want to ban transition care for all transgender people, not just children?
View Poll Results: Do conservatives want to get rid of transgender people?
Most conservatives want to get rid of transgender people
15 39.47%
A significant percentage, but not "most", conservatives want to get rid of transgender people
6 15.79%
Few conservatives want to get rid of transgender people
9 23.68%
I don't know
8 21.05%

03-13-2023 , 09:49 PM
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. And sometimes it's a transphobe masquerading as a medical professional.
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03-13-2023 , 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Meisner
Again, using loaded terms like “gender-affirming” implies that the person is the wrong gender trapped in the wrong body. Many people simply believe, whether it is based in science or religion or whatever, that this is impossible.
"Transgenderism" is a loaded term....
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03-13-2023 , 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BDHarrison
I think we've established that the disrespect in her posts is permissible here.
LOL
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03-13-2023 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jjjou812
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. And sometimes it's a transphobe masquerading as a medical professional.
You know, since all of you want to continue with the name-calling, I’m out. I’ve not attacked a singlenonenofbyiu, except for maybe mr fett whom I called intolerant. Oddly, since then, he’s been the most reasonable one of you. He hasn’t attacked me at all or resorted to immature name-calling. Anyhow, I’m out.
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03-13-2023 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
One of the weird things about the transgender controversies is that almost everybody doesn't realize that the biggest aspect to the subject is that it involves major, difficult changes and little else. This is supposed to be understandable to a seven year old's IQ but some sort of cognitive dissonance works against this simple realization. The easiest way to see that I am right is to notice that in most cases where it is controversial as to whether someone should change some aspects of their life from x to y, a large component of the debate is whether it is better to be x than y. If that is considered a close decision, people rarely make a big deal about what others choose. And of course very few nowadays have a strong opinion about whether it is preferable for you to be a man or a women. The actual debate is more along the lines of what it means when someone wants to go to the trouble. A debate that to everyone but the religious nuts should not take on the importance that it does.
Transgender people aren't making a choice to be male or female; they're making a choice on whether it is better to have your physical genitalia match your gender identity.
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03-13-2023 , 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Meisner
You know, since all of you want to continue with the name-calling, I’m out. I’ve not attacked a singlenonenofbyiu, except for maybe mr fett whom I called intolerant. Oddly, since then, he’s been the most reasonable one of you. He hasn’t attacked me at all or resorted to immature name-calling. Anyhow, I’m out.
We won't miss whichever version of this account you are on. Good luck getting banned again.
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03-30-2023 , 12:26 AM
Was wondering people's thoughts on the probably that gay marriage is overturned by SCOTUS in the next 20 years? After dealing with all the trans stuff, seems logical as the attitude of people like Matt Walsh is that the purpose of marriage is to procreate
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03-30-2023 , 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by muttiah
Was wondering people's thoughts on the probably that gay marriage is overturned by SCOTUS in the next 20 years? After dealing with all the trans stuff, seems logical as the attitude of people like Matt Walsh is that the purpose of marriage is to procreate
I doubt it will happen. My theory is that the GOP will embrace the gays more and more as the Dems start considering them trans-exclusionary.
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03-30-2023 , 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by muttiah
Was wondering people's thoughts on the probably that gay marriage is overturned by SCOTUS in the next 20 years? After dealing with all the trans stuff, seems logical as the attitude of people like Matt Walsh is that the purpose of marriage is to procreate
my vote is this happens before whatever luckbox just said happens.
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03-30-2023 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I doubt it will happen. My theory is that the GOP will embrace the gays more and more as the Dems start considering them trans-exclusionary.
Is there some causative relationship, iyo, between the GOP embracing gays and Dems considering the GOP more trans-exclusionary? If so, which way does this relationship go?
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03-30-2023 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ganstaman
Is there some causative relationship, iyo, between the GOP embracing gays and Dems considering the GOP more trans-exclusionary? If so, which way does this relationship go?
I'll guess it goes both ways.
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03-30-2023 , 03:23 PM
Choosing to embrace the gas as a shield against the criticism that they are transphobic might be kinda logical. But it cuts against the whole deep seated bigotry thing so no I mostly see the GOP following the traditional trajectory of steady but slow advances in gay acceptance.
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03-30-2023 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I doubt it will happen. My theory is that the GOP will embrace the gays more and more as the Dems start considering them trans-exclusionary.
Just like when the GOP embraced Mexicans more to insulate them from charges that they hate black people.
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03-30-2023 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BDHarrison
Transgender people aren't making a choice to be male or female; they're making a choice on whether it is better to have your physical genitalia match your gender identity.
All of my trans friends do it for sexual gratification. They literally get off to pretending to be the opposite. It's sad really. So much more to life than fantasy
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03-30-2023 , 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by wreckem713
All of my trans friends do it for sexual gratification. They literally get off to pretending to be the opposite. It's sad really. So much more to life than fantasy
What's the sex breakdown of your friends?
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03-30-2023 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Wookie would have banned him
This!

Wookie banned me for using a perfectly fine Bible word.
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03-30-2023 , 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
What's the sex breakdown of your friends?
That is their business tbh
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03-31-2023 , 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by wreckem713
That is their business tbh
Are any female?
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03-31-2023 , 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Are any female?
Why?
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03-31-2023 , 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by wreckem713
All of my trans friends do it for sexual gratification. They literally get off to pretending to be the opposite. It's sad really. So much more to life than fantasy
Each person is different and categories can overlap. But your description of your friends sounds more like cross dressers who like to pretend they are the other gender but still perceive themselves as the gender that matches their body, rather than the transgender people dealing with the conflict between the gender identity they perceive themselves as and the body they are in.

So a man may perceive himself as a man but enjoys dressing up as a woman (for many reasons) but still at the end of the day perceives himself as a man. Whereas a transgender person may perceive their gender identity as female, and want their body and outward appearance to match that female gender identity rather than that of a man.
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03-31-2023 , 05:00 AM
As a European it's absolutely mind blowing to me that in America people will go to protest a drag story show in the morning because 'think of the children' and then take their kid to shoot guns in the afternoon. Everybody has gone insane.

Also people who strongly and vocally oppose trans people / drag are just dolts in my experience. Dull, tedious people to be around.
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03-31-2023 , 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Are any female?
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Originally Posted by browser2920
Each person is different and categories can overlap. But your description of your friends sounds more like cross dressers who like to pretend they are the other gender but still perceive themselves as the gender that matches their body, rather than the transgender people dealing with the conflict between the gender identity they perceive themselves as and the body they are in.

So a man may perceive himself as a man but enjoys dressing up as a woman (for many reasons) but still at the end of the day perceives himself as a man. Whereas a transgender person may perceive their gender identity as female, and want their body and outward appearance to match that female gender identity rather than that of a man.
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Originally Posted by wreckem713
Why?
What's being described is something called autogynephilia, where somehow the object of a male's desire becomes the idea of himself as a woman. As far as I know it's something that only affects males, which is why I asked if any wreckem's friends who are this way are female.
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03-31-2023 , 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
What's being described is something called autogynephilia, where somehow the object of a male's desire becomes the idea of himself as a woman. As far as I know it's something that only affects males, which is why I asked if any wreckem's friends who are this way are female.
At this point, I think that would be an offensive question to ask them. They're set in their ways
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04-04-2023 , 09:50 AM
Apparently, the maga derposphere is boycotting anheuser busch. Not sure what their backup beer might be.
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04-04-2023 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by biggerboat
Apparently, the maga derposphere is boycotting anheuser busch. Not sure what their backup beer might be.
I'm pretty sure plenty of Republicans drink Miller and Coors.
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