If the assumption is that I'm referring to her genealogy, and not her answer(s) to demographic question(s), you would be correct. I'm referring to her answers to general demographic questions, which, again, is predicated on people identifying their predominant ancestry, of which Warren is nowhere close to being predominantly NA, which makes her answer faux.

Nope, not fake. Misguided, exaggerated perhaps, but not fake.

Fair enough.

is the leader of the cherokee nation allowed to claim native american ancestry?

he's at best 1/32.. is anyone predominately native american anymore?

I really do not care. I really, really do not. I was explaining why I don't care to blah. My only knock was that people concern was not disingenuous, I do not think it's a legitimate concern though.

everyone that has lived here for generations has family that are linked to native americans. it would be more uncommon to run into someone who's family is from this area that isn't linked to native americans.

What did she steal from minorities?

Again, lots of opinions about the motives and consequences of her native claim, next to nothing when it comes to substantiating these opinions.

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Really, you're not sure? Like, do you seriously think this "I'm an African now lolololo" is sincere?

Irony, with a touch of sarcasm, to the point of absurdity, while operating under the other persons premise, to prove a point. You, of all people, should have got "it".

Dude if you want to claim AA status on random demographic forms that land you no discernable advantages then be my guest.

If you think Warren got an edge somehow by claiming Cherokee heritage then substantiate that opinion.

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I do not know, and do not care. I've had two serious exchanges in this conversation. One, why did blah care so much, as I found the issue to be insignificant. Two, I disagreed that peoples concerns about the issue is disingenuous. There was a third, about my use of "faux" to describe Warrens demographic answers in conjunction with me indicating that I did not care about it, but that was more about context and semantics than anything.

Ok bro, then coolest story of all time! Been a totally great use of energy, appreciate your involvement in this conversation.

So to circle back to your sickest of all gotchas, how about this. Now that we've established you have no idea if Warren's act was consequential at all, why don't you print this form out, complete it as if you're African American (GASP!), snap a pic of it for us, send it to yourself, then share your meaningless demographic error / lie with the forum and take careful note of just how few shits are given by literally anybody.

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I know, right? And he says I'm the one who can't take a hint.

Anyone reading this conversation who doesn't have a neurodevelopmental disability understands precisely what point you're trying to make here, don't worry bud.

The problem is nobody cares if you fill out my form and claim AA status. Nobody. At all. Because it's meaningless, harms nobody, and is wholly inconsequential.

To be fair, in this environment, salience can and has been misinterpreted.

Well, you actually should care. Not for me, or any individual, in particular, but if enough people do it, it can skew the demographics, and hurt minorities.

Let's not pretend some people would not be bothered if I, or many other predominantly white people, claimed African, at least two people ITT were.

idk what you think "salience" means, but I support it 100%, bro.

I'm still waiting on how Warren's Cherokee claim was consequential in any meaningful way. Spell it out for me, be specific to Warren's actual claims, and let's decide how outraged we should all feel about it.

Once we finally flesh out the details of how many lives were destroyed by Warren's claim(s) of Cherokee status we'll know precisely how it stacks up against all the various other totally legitimate scandals that conservatives pretend to get their jimmies rustled over.

How many times do I have to say that I do not care about Warren's claim? I said it long before you and I started to engage. I'm not outraged, and I do not think anyone else should be outraged either.

You know, you all should respond to this particular issue about Warren the same way Bernie responded to the emails. You would stop the purported nonsense in it's tracks.

Was that ‘blood quanta” in the thread? Not predominately ITT, not even the actual topic.

Quote 1 is you making a point about a thing you state you don't care about in Quote 2.

If you don't care, why wade in at all with the shitty ironic quips and what have you? Like why are you even expending time and effort on this right now?

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Quote one is talking about what you should care about, not what I should care about. You are the lefty, and I'm the purported racist. I do not care, but it's not becasue I'm racist, but rather this is an individual who did something silly. If you think racism is prevalent in society, you should care about people reporting incorrect demographics (especially white people), as if enough people report it, all of a sudden you have tons more black people, which hides disproportions and racism. This is why you should simply say you dont care about the Warren demographic answer issue, becasue you get dragged into stuff you don't want to be dragged into. Just say she did something silly and ignore the rest, like Bernie did with the emails.

I made a statement about not caring, and referred to the issue in an unappealing way. MrWookie, and Slighted challenged me on that, in a way I thought required irony, sarcasm and absurdity to show they did not take what I said in the intended context.

This forum is becoming unreadable.