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01-11-2021 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by washoe
I've read that many of supporters turned on him after the big techs banned him. Sort of like capping the connection between them. Only then they changed.
They have been under constant bombardments and brainwash, that's how they put it.

Government sanctions, nothing could put a dent in that connection. Only Twitter and Facebook could. That's when you see how much power these giants have.
Effective speech can, but they took the authoritarian route.
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01-11-2021 , 02:10 PM
For years and years and years conservatives have told us the free market is the greatest invention ever known to man and if you don't like the actions of private companies, well, the magic of competition will sort that out.

But man, some Nazis get silenced and they sure abandon all that bullshit right quick!
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01-11-2021 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
HIV has a point - right-wingers really do treat their love of Donald Trump like a religion! LOL
Parler is a stage/platform, nor an ideology, not is it a person expressing a bad idea .
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01-11-2021 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
Parler is a stage, not an ideology.
Oh, it is? Maybe you should talk to this guy, then, who was really worried about other people changing "fundamental aspects" and then exactly one sentence later compared it to a house of worship:

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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
You altered a fundamental aspect. It's like targeting a mosque
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01-11-2021 , 02:15 PM
But I guess your sick internet analogies don't pack the same punch when you make the much more boring comparison of Parler being a theater where some of the actors who like to perform plotted an insurrection against American democracy and the theater said "yeah, that's cool with us, we don't care".
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01-11-2021 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Oh, it is? Maybe you should talk to this guy, then, who was really worried about other people changing "fundamental aspects" and then exactly one sentence later compared it to a house of worship:
A mosque, church etc is many things. What they use it for is irrelevant.
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01-11-2021 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
A mosque, church etc is many things. What they use the church for is irrelevant.
LOL, might want to do some brushing up on that precious Constitution of yours
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01-11-2021 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
But I guess your sick internet analogies don't pack the same punch when you make the much more boring comparison of Parler being a theater where some of the actors who like to perform plotted an insurrection against American democracy and the theater said "yeah, that's cool with us, we don't care".
Hahahahaha shut the theater down because some patrons yell fire.
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01-11-2021 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
You altered a fundamental aspect. It's like targeting a mosque to stop extremism, knowing full well most members of the mosque, and the mosque leaders, are not engaging in extremism. If some members of a mosque support extremism, you gonna advocate targeting the mosque? The action against Parler isn't targeting people.
Have you spent much time reading around those places?
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01-11-2021 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
Hahahahaha shut the theater down because some patrons yell fire.
I mean, yeah? Patrons yelled "fire" and caused a massive panic, and people got hurt (some died!), and the building owner told the theater they need to revise their policies and protocols to better deal with this because they might be liable for the damage that happens the next time this occurs. The theater said "**** off". What do you think was going to happen next, exactly??

Right-wing ideology turns people's brains into ****ing childlike mush, jesus
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01-11-2021 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
I mean, yeah? Patrons yelled "fire" and caused a massive panic, and people got hurt (some died!), and the building owner told the theater they need to revise their policies and protocols to better deal with this because they might be liable for the damage that happens the next time this occurs. The theater said "**** off". What do you think was going to happen next, exactly??

Right-wing ideology turns people's brains into ****ing childlike mush, jesus
More like the electric company.
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01-11-2021 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
More like the electric company.
LOL, oh look, the same people who argued against net neutrality (because the internet shouldn't be burdened with innovation-stifling regulations treating it like a public utility, of course) are suddenly changing their tune and coming around to the idea that the internet is actually just like a public utility.

What caused this rapid change? Nazis got deplatformed, of course!
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01-11-2021 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
LOL, oh look, the same people who argued against net neutrality (because the internet shouldn't be burdened with innovation-stifling regulations treating it like a public utility, of course) are suddenly changing their tune and coming around to the idea that the internet is actually just like a public utility.

What caused this rapid change? Nazis got deplatformed, of course!
I did not argue against net neutrality. Stop treating people like a monolith and stereotyping them.
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01-11-2021 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
I did not argue against net neutrality. Stop treating people like an monolith and stereotyping them.
But it's Republican elected officials who are responsible for that not happening. If you want the internet regulated like a public utility, seems like you should get the rest of your party on board? It's not my ****ing problem.

When your party comes around to the (correct!) idea that the internet should be regulated like a public utility, then we can talk. Until then, the rest of us certainly aren't obligated to care about conservative fever dreams about the importance of regulating the internet that suspiciously only pop up when Nazis have trouble spreading their voice across it.
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01-11-2021 , 03:06 PM
I would vainly hope that some people in positions of influence read this thread and would take my proposal seriously. I know it will never happen, and I'm half joking, but wouldn't it be great if employers in their jobs application have the question ' have you in any way participated in the insurrection to storm the Capitol?'.
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01-11-2021 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
But it's Republican elected officials who are responsible for that not happening. If you want the internet regulated like a public utility, seems like you should get the rest of your party on board? It's not my ****ing problem.

When your party comes around to the (correct!) idea that the internet should be regulated like a public utility, then we can talk. Until then, the rest of us certainly aren't obligated to care about conservative fever dreams about the importance of regulating the internet that suspiciously only pop up when Nazis have trouble spreading their voice across it.
That's a good point. ^

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01-11-2021 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
But it's Republican elected officials who are responsible for that not happening. If you want the internet regulated like a public utility, seems like you should get the rest of your party on board? It's not my ****ing problem.

When your party comes around to the (correct!) idea that the internet should be regulated like a public utility, then we can talk. Until then, the rest of us certainly aren't obligated to care about conservative fever dreams about the importance of regulating the internet that suspiciously only pop up when Nazis have trouble spreading their voice across it.

Your need to hyperbolically analogize Parler, and it's all it's users as Nazi's, speaks to why we don't want regulation of any sort, outside of what's criminal already. Because Nazi's plot an attack on Messeger, doesn't mean you shut down Messenger (Facebook messaging app). Same think with removing text messaging apps.
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01-11-2021 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
Your need to hyperbolically analogize Parler, and it's all it's users as Nazi's, speaks to why we don't want regulation of any sort, outside of what's criminal already.
Now you oppose regulating the internet? Okay, seems weird for the guy who literally just compared AWS dropping Parler to "the electric company", but it's not like displaying massive inconsistency is particularly new for you!
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01-11-2021 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Okay, seems weird for the guy who literally just compared AWS dropping Parler to "the electric company", but it's not like displaying massive inconsistency is particularly new for you!
No, you did. I was correcting your analogy that Amazon and others were a service provider to Parler, not an owner. Amazon does not own anything in regards to what Parler has. It provided a service to Parler. Any extrapolation concerning an electric company being a utility, and your digressions on that was completely yours that you made up to be some position I dont hold.
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01-11-2021 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
No, you did. I was correcting your analogy.
LOL, what? By turning internet companies into heavily regulated public utilities, you assert you were "correcting" my analogy? Hahahahaha, man, you are clueless.
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01-11-2021 , 03:22 PM
Oh time to correct all the BS HIV manically edited into his post after I already replied to it:

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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
Amazon does not own anything in regards to what Parler has.
They own the ****ing servers Parler chose to run their software on, lol, christ what is wrong with you
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01-11-2021 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
Effective speech can, but they took the authoritarian route.
In authoritarian regimes, this wouldn't even be an issue. Any media company exists only to parrot the lies of the ruling regime. A private company being able to de-platform the President of the United States is a great first amendment triumph.
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01-11-2021 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
LOL, what? By turning internet companies into heavily regulated public utilities, you assert you were "correcting" my analogy? Hahahahaha, man, you are clueless.
When you are corrected, you ignore it, and double down. I never said utility, you did. The fact of the matter is, you have duoply on app distribution, and you have a net neutrality when it comes to providing internet service. You don't believe in net neutrality. I do.
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01-11-2021 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
For years and years and years conservatives have told us the free market is the greatest invention ever known to man and if you don't like the actions of private companies, well, the magic of competition will sort that out.

But man, some Nazis get silenced and they sure abandon all that bullshit right quick!
Conservatives: We don't have to make wedding cakes for teh gheys, cos, you know, GAY! A company can't be made to do something it doesn't want to do.

Also conservatives: If you won't host my Nazi site, you are violating my rights!
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01-11-2021 , 03:25 PM
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we don't want regulation of any sort
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You don't believe in net neutrality. I do.
lol does this guy even know what net neutrality means

amazing
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