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01-11-2021 , 10:58 AM
All the platforms that have banned or restricted Trump so far

Platforms are rapidly removing Donald Trump’s account or accounts affiliated with pro-Trump violence and conspiracies, like QAnon and #StoptheSteal.

Here is a running list:

REDDIT:

- WHAT: Reddit has banned the subreddit group "r/DonaldTrump," a spokesperson confirmed to Axios on Friday.

- COMMENT: "Reddit's site-wide policies prohibit content that promotes hate, or encourages, glorifies, incites, or calls for violence against groups of people or individuals. In accordance with this, we have been proactively reaching out to moderators to remind them of our policies and to offer support or resources as needed," a spokesperson tells Axios.

- CONTEXT: While not an official group or page hosted by the president, it's one of the company's largest political communities dedicated to support for President Trump.


TWITCH:

- WHAT: Twitch disabled Trump's channel, citing the move as a "necessary step" to protect its community and "prevent Twitch from being used to incite further violence."

- COMMENT: “In light of yesterday’s shocking attack on the Capitol, we have disabled President Trump’s Twitch channel. Given the current extraordinary circumstances and the President's incendiary rhetoric, we believe this is a necessary step to protect our community and prevent Twitch from being used to incite further violence," a spokesperson told Axios.

- CONTEXT: Twitch was one of the first platforms in June to temporarily ban Trump's channel for hateful content around the Black Lives Matter protests over the summer.

SHOPIFY:

- WHAT: Shopify took down two online stores affiliated with Trump — his organization and his campaign's merchandise sites — for violating its policies on supporting violence.

- COMMENT: "Shopify does not tolerate actions that invite violence. Based on recent events, we have determined that the actions by President Donald J. Trump violate our acceptable Use Policy, which prohibits promotion or support of organizations, platforms or people that threaten or condone violence to further a cause. As a result, we have terminated stores affiliated with President Trump." - a spokesperson told The Financial Times.

- CONTEXT: Shopify had until Friday gone the farthest in actually de-platforming Trump, as his stores were permanently removed, not temporarily disabled.


TWITTER:

- WHAT: Twitter announced Friday the platform will permanently ban President Trump's account effective immediately.

- COMMENT: "After close review of recent Tweets from the @realDonaldTrump account and the context around them we have permanently suspended the account due to the risk of further incitement of violence," Twitter said in a statement.

- CONTEXT: It's Twitter's strongest-ever action against the president's account and comes in response to the "risk of further incitement of violence," per the social media company.


GOOGLE:

- WHAT: Google has pulled Parler, a social media app for conservatives and far-right extremists.

- COMMENT: "In order to protect user safety on Google Play, our longstanding policies require that apps displaying user-generated content have moderation policies and enforcement that removes egregious content like posts that incite violence," a Google spokesperson said.

- CONTEXT: Google’s move immediately suspends Parler, going further than Apple's earlier decision to remove the app unless it submits a content moderation plan.


YOUTUBE:

- WHAT: YouTube is accelerating its enforcement of election misinformation and voter fraud claims against Trump and other channels.

- COMMENT: "Due to the extraordinary events that transpired yesterday, and given that the election results have been certified, any channel posting new videos with these false claims in violation of our policies will now receive a strike, a penalty which temporarily restricts uploading or live-streaming. Channels that receive three strikes in the same 90-day period will be permanently removed from YouTube," Alex Joseph, a YouTube spokesperson, told Axios.

- CONTEXT: YouTube is typically slow to take action on bad content and accounts. Its response, while swift, was somewhat benign compared to competitors removing or disabling Trump's account. YouTube did remove the video Trump posted Wednesday that addressed the Capitol violence without fully condemning it.

FACEBOOK:

- WHAT: Facebook banned Donald Trump from posting on his Facebook accounts for at least the next two weeks until the transition of power to President-elect Joe Biden is complete.

- COMMENT: "We believe the risks of allowing the President to continue to use our service during this period are simply too great," CEO Mark Zuckerberg said in a post Thursday.

- CONTEXT: On Wednesday, Facebook did remove the video Trump posted Wednesday addressing the violence without fully condemning it before taking greater action against Trump on Thursday.


INSTAGRAM:

- WHAT: Instagram banned Donald Trump from posting on his Facebook accounts for at least the next two weeks until the transition of power to President-elect Joe Biden is complete.

- COMMENT: "We believe the risks of allowing the President to continue to use our service during this period are simply too great," Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg said in a post Thursday.

- CONTEXT: On Wednesday, Instagram's parent Facebook did remove the video Trump posted addressing the violence without fully condemning it before taking greater action against Trump on Thursday.


SNAPCHAT:

- WHAT: Snapchat disabled Trump's Snapchat account Wednesday because it believes the account promotes and spreads hate and incites violence, a spokesperson said.

- COMMENT: "We can confirm that earlier today we locked President Trump's Snapchat account," Snap spokesperson Rachel Racusen told Axios.

- CONTEXT: Snapchat was one of the first major social platforms to take serious action on Trump's account for threats to democracy in June when the company said it stopped promoting his account in its "Discover" section, which features professional content and other prominent people.

TIKTOK:

- WHAT: TikTok is removing content violations and redirecting hashtags like #stormthecapitol and #patriotparty to its community guidelines.

- COMMENT: "Hateful behavior and violence have no place on TikTok. Content or accounts that seek to incite, glorify, or promote violence violate our Community Guidelines and will be removed," a TikTok spokesperson said.

- CONTEXT: Other hashtags like #stopthesteal and #QAnon have been redirected since last year.

APPLE:

- WHAT: Apple on Friday threatened to remove right-wing-friendly social media app Parler from its App Store if Parler doesn’t lay out a plan to moderate its content.

- COMMENT: "We have received numerous complaints regarding objectionable content in your Parler service, accusations that the Parler app was used to plan, coordinate, and facilitate the illegal activities in Washington D.C. on January 6, 2021 that led (among other things) to loss of life, numerous injuries, and the destruction of property,” Apple wrote to Parler in an email obtained by BuzzFeed News. “The app also appears to continue to be used to plan and facilitate yet further illegal and dangerous activities.”

- CONTEXT: Apple is flexing its power to try to get Parler to moderate its content.

DISCORD:

- WHAT: Discord says it has banned server The Donald, per journalist Casey Newton.

- COMMENT: "While there is no evidence of the server being used to organize the Jan 6 riots, Discord decided to ban the entire server today due to its overt connection to an online forum used to incite violence and plan an armed insurrection in the United States," per Mother Jones' Ali Breland.

- CONTEXT: The Discord account was connected to the pro-Trump social network TheDonald.Win.

PINTEREST:

- WHAT: Pinterest has been limiting hashtags related to pro-Trump topics such as #StopTheSteal since around the November election, a spokesperson said.

- COMMENT: "Pinterest isn’t a place for threats, promotion of violence or hateful content," a Pinterest spokesperson said. "Our team is continuing to monitor and removing harmful content, including misinformation and conspiracy theories that may incite violence.”

- CONTEXT: Trump doesn't have a Pinterest account, and the platform has tried to stay away from political content, but Pinterest hasn't been able to squelch it completely.


STRIPE:

- WHAT: Stripe will no longer process payments for President Trump's campaign, which continued to fundraise.

The bottom line: Trump is quickly losing access to all the platforms where he once was able to spread his message freely, but groups of his supporters will still be able to gather online.

Editor's note: This article has been updated with news of Stripe's action.

Last edited by Cuepee; 01-11-2021 at 11:07 AM.
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01-11-2021 , 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Yep. I've been saying the same thing.

I'd go a bio further and say that social media cannot provide the answers to regulating social media. It has to be based on government regulation.
I'm not sure gov't doing it would survive any type of Constitutional challenge if a single company (Parler) decided to fight the restricted speech.

Thus why Social Media is in such a tough spot.

I think the only real way for it to appear somewhat fair would be for multiple Social Media platform to create, fund and support and submit to the equivalent of an Arbitration Panel, for certain types of content and for a large contingent of corporations (those who are buying data) to also be a part

Create a near global TOS and then the body to identify violators and demand enforcement and when a company does not comply they can continue on their path but are excluded from THIS group with all the corporations saying they will not do any business with those excluded.

Sure the 'alt' S.Media sites could still carve out a niche path,but it would be far more niche.
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01-11-2021 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
I'm not sure gov't doing it would survive any type of Constitutional challenge if a single company (Parler) decided to fight the restricted speech.

Thus why Social Media is in such a tough spot.

I think the only real way for it to appear somewhat fair would be for multiple Social Media platform to create, fund and support and submit to the equivalent of an Arbitration Panel, for certain types of content and for a large contingent of corporations (those who are buying data) to also be a part

Create a near global TOS and then the body to identify violators and demand enforcement and when a company does not comply they can continue on their path but are excluded from THIS group with all the corporations saying they will not do any business with those excluded.

Sure the 'alt' S.Media sites could still carve out a niche path,but it would be far more niche.
It's over. Speech is dead. Google, Facebook, Amazon, Apple now have the power, and it seems the left wants it this way. They are the one's who decides who can operate, and who can not. The parler thing is not a person being censored, it's another platform.
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01-11-2021 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
I'm not sure gov't doing it would survive any type of Constitutional challenge if a single company (Parler) decided to fight the restricted speech.

Thus why Social Media is in such a tough spot.

I think the only real way for it to appear somewhat fair would be for multiple Social Media platform to create, fund and support and submit to the equivalent of an Arbitration Panel, for certain types of content and for a large contingent of corporations (those who are buying data) to also be a part

Create a near global TOS and then the body to identify violators and demand enforcement and when a company does not comply they can continue on their path but are excluded from THIS group with all the corporations saying they will not do any business with those excluded.

Sure the 'alt' S.Media sites could still carve out a niche path,but it would be far more niche.
The government can not do it as they will screw it up. All those companies that banned Trump all had adequate reasoning to do so. The problem is the optics as they all are run by left leaning leaders and have sole monopolies on their industry. All we will hear about is How Kathy Griffin posted a bloodied head of Trump and other left leaning folks.

I do believe removing Parler was extreme but we do not know how many attempts Amazon, Apple and Google made to ask them clean it up. Though I am unsure how easy it is to catch everything and clean up quickly
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01-11-2021 , 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Proffett
The people kicked off the plane in that video were talking amongst themselves about supporting Trump. Is that correct?

Did they put the flight or passengers at risk? Were they a part of the mob that stormed the capitol and committed terrorism?

It becomes a problem when anyone that has a positive opinion about Trump, as misguided and wrong as it might be, is treated as an Enemy of the State.
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Can we at least start treating people with a positive opinion of Hitler as enemies of the state? Or are you going to whine on their behalf, too?
To revisit this, is it OK to consider people who support overthrowing our free and fair elections and destroying our entire system of governance enemies of the state? Like, at least on a literal level, they sound pretty opposed to the state!
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01-11-2021 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by lozen

I do believe removing Parler was extreme but we do not know how many attempts Amazon, Apple and Google made to ask them clean it up. Though I am unsure how easy it is to catch everything and clean up quickly
It's not up to them. If there is illegal activity going on, the US and the local law enforcement needs to prosecute the ones who are engaging in illegal activity. Those companies are not the police, or regulators.
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01-11-2021 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
It's not up to them. If there is illegal activity going on, the US and the local law enforcement needs to prosecute the ones who are engaging in illegal activity. Those companies are not the police, or regulators.
So your saying you want the police or Government agencies to monitor the sites?
Problem is on twitter and FB many people have anonymity. Maybe the solution is only allowed verified accounts on all platforms. Like we had to do in the poker days confirm your identity via ID verification
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01-11-2021 , 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by lozen
The government can not do it as they will screw it up. All those companies that banned Trump all had adequate reasoning to do so. The problem is the optics as they all are run by left leaning leaders and have sole monopolies on their industry. All we will hear about is How Kathy Griffin posted a bloodied head of Trump and other left leaning folks.

I do believe removing Parler was extreme but we do not know how many attempts Amazon, Apple and Google made to ask them clean it up. Though I am unsure how easy it is to catch everything and clean up quickly
I'm not so sure all those guys are actual lefties themselves don;t many of them claim to be libertarians of various stripes? Of course, conservatives are free to start their own companies--although it seems like when they do pretty much every one devolves into a toxic environment of racism and constant calls to violence so that's kind of an issue
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01-11-2021 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
It's not up to them. If there is illegal activity going on, the US and the local law enforcement needs to prosecute the ones who are engaging in illegal activity. Those companies are not the police, or regulators.
AWS is a company who can decide who they want to host and who they don't want to host. #USA #Capitalism

Now let's see all the nutjobs migrate to parler.ru
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01-11-2021 , 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
It's over. Speech is dead. Google, Facebook, Amazon, Apple now have the power, and it seems the left wants it this way. They are the one's who decides who can operate, and who can not. The parler thing is not a person being censored, it's another platform.
No offense, but you make a glaring example of how the right doesn't understand the constitution. How many times are we going to go over this?

A private company, namely the social media platforms, has the right to ban or allow who they want. It's their first amendment right. Forcing them to allow anyone and everyone is an infringement on their rights. This is really not controversial.
But I know how we can come to better clarity. You have to look at it from this perspective its. I'm pretty certain that you would find it appropriate, and that you wouldn't be lamenting about the loss of free speech, if Twitter banned Muslim terrorists for promoting violence and insurrection against the U.S.
Well, you have to resign yourself to the fact that the people who attacked the Capitol are terrorists. Once you look at things from the right perspective, it will all start making sense, even for you
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01-11-2021 , 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99


LOOOL Trumpers always turn into the biggest crybabies the second they face one tiny consequence for their actions.
And of those who are managing to get home, and now report to their jobs on Monday morning many are finding pink slips waiting.


Who could have ever guessed that merely trying to over throw the US government and failing but managing a bunch of murders, would have consequences?

As the guy in the video cries '...they are calling me a terrorist and trying to ruin my life..." Boohoo.
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01-11-2021 , 12:01 PM
The problem is, these companies, Twitter, Facebook and Google etc. have to much power. Monitoring them seems impossible. There is way too much possibilities.
I would also see id requirements at the sites as a possible solution. People can make thousand of fake Twitter and Facebook accounts as of now. This shouldn't be the case. Governments like North Korea and russia spend billions of dollars per year just for hacking and cyber crimes. So harder requirements of the users seem logical. Although it would harm their business of anonymousity, so it has to the decided by the governments who can post.
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01-11-2021 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
It's over. Speech is dead. Google, Facebook, Amazon, Apple now have the power, and it seems the left wants it this way. They are the one's who decides who can operate, and who can not. The parler thing is not a person being censored, it's another platform.
People who do not understand that get banned off 2+2 or any private platform due to breaking TOS is not a violation of free speech at this point just need to be ignored in this platform.


Especially when it comes to Trump who literally has to only walk out in to any of many WH venues and he will have all the Worlds media ready with cameras to send his speech around the world in a moments notice.

But you say 'no, no, he cannot speak. He has been silenced. TV and the news does not count.'
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01-11-2021 , 12:09 PM
Some of my posts have been removed because of inappropriate language towards others. But I never once complained about my free speech rights being violated.
Because I'm a good boy.
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01-11-2021 , 12:12 PM
I must have posted this before.
What does it say about a president; or anyone for that matter, but especially about a president; who gets banned from social media?
Just let that sink in.
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01-11-2021 , 12:20 PM
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GOP Senator says Trump was 'delighted' and 'excited' as he watched the Capitol riots
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01-11-2021 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
It's over. Speech is dead. Google, Facebook, Amazon, Apple now have the power, and it seems the left wants it this way. They are the one's who decides who can operate, and who can not. The parler thing is not a person being censored, it's another platform.
RIP Free Speech
2006-2021

And whether the left wants it this way or not, it's the way things are in terms of the law. Major companies don't want to be associated with crazy, potentially violent speech. That they should be able to remove people who they think are problematic fits in with 60+ years of republican views on business regulation. Yes, that view was probably birthed/strengthened from opposition to civil rights, but they've chose to stay in that camp.

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01-11-2021 , 12:32 PM
All this censoring of the right could lead to extinction of republican party. Only thing they have left is AM radio
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01-11-2021 , 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ligastar
What's the chrome extension that makes it easier to read a 900+ tweet tweet. Google failed me.

kthx
Hint: 1/965 is always a joke
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01-11-2021 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
People who do not understand that get banned off 2+2 or any private platform due to breaking TOS is not a violation of free speech at this point just need to be ignored in this platform.


Especially when it comes to Trump who literally has to only walk out in to any of many WH venues and he will have all the Worlds media ready with cameras to send his speech around the world in a moments notice.

But you say 'no, no, he cannot speak. He has been silenced. TV and the news does not count.'
I've read that many of supporters turned on him after the big techs banned him. Sort of like capping the connection between them. Only then they changed.
They have been under constant bombardments and brainwash, that's how they put it.

Government sanctions, nothing could put a dent in that connection. Only Twitter and Facebook could. That's when you see how much power these giants have.
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01-11-2021 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
Who could have ever guessed that merely trying to over throw the US government and failing but managing a bunch of murders, would have consequences?
Really.... a bunch of murders?

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I've read that many of supporters turned on him after the big techs banned him. Sort of like capping the connection between them. Only then they changed.
They have been under constant bombardments and brainwash, that's how they put it.
So has nothing to due with the REASON Big Tech banning because "incitement to" ??????

"We were brainwashed" doesn't hold a candle to "the storming of the Capitol opened my eyes"
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01-11-2021 , 01:41 PM
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Really.... a bunch of murders?

So has nothing to due with the REASON Big Tech banning because "incitement to" ??????

"We were brainwashed" doesn't hold a candle to "the storming of the Capitol opened my eyes"
I'm not sure how much of an impact the actual event had. It had probably a lot to do with people distancing themselves. But I think the capping of communication from Twitter and Facebook plays a major role with people opening their eyes.
This is never seen before event. Once out of sight on social media, he's is out of the minds for many people. People trust twitters and Facebooks regulations more than their own governments. That's what I read.
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01-11-2021 , 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
It's over. Speech is dead. Google, Facebook, Amazon, Apple now have the power, and it seems the left wants it this way. They are the one's who decides who can operate, and who can not. The parler thing is not a person being censored, it's another platform.
First, Twitter came for the leftists, and I said nothing, because I'm not a leftist.

Then, Twitter came for BLM activists, and I said nothing, because I'm not a BLM activist.

Then Twitter came for the Nazis and right wing terrorists. Then I spoke up.
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01-11-2021 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
First, Twitter came for the leftists, and I said nothing, because I'm not a leftist.

Then, Twitter came for BLM activists, and I said nothing, because I'm not a BLM activist.

Then Twitter came for the Nazis and right wing terrorists. Then I spoke up.
You altered a fundamental aspect. It's like targeting a mosque to stop extremism, knowing full well most members of the mosque, and the mosque leaders, are not engaging in extremism. If some members of a mosque support extremism, you gonna advocate targeting the mosque? The action against Parler isn't targeting people.
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01-11-2021 , 02:09 PM
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You altered a fundamental aspect. It's like targeting a mosque
HIV has a point - right-wingers really do treat their love of Donald Trump like a religion! LOL
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