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Originally Posted by craig1120
I’m open to hearing the moral case for allowing people residing in America to chant this and mean it. It’s not just about policing the specific words but rather the spirit and the desire to spread this spirit to others.
The moral case is the broad 1st amendment principle of risking a lot if you give power to censor/punish simple speech to the government even in clear cut cases, because it will be used in not so clear cases.
Which is why it should be judges to determine when the 1a very broad protections are actually being abused.
So arrest them for conspiracy to kill Americans and see what judges think of it.
But then if they are set free you don't arrest others doing the same anymore.
I fear the legal answer exists already and the Brandenburg exception doesn't apply to "only" chanting death to America because that doesn't provoke immediate violence, nor people go out and kill Americans after they hear it (yet?).
But we can and should monitor those groups and at the slightest illegal infraction throw the book at them, destroy their lives, and use lethal force when legally possible to the maximum extent when trying to capture them with a warrant and so on.
So wait, file, monitor, and strike when legal with maximum force.