https://hewlett.org/how-effective-ar...s-in-congress/

That's been my take too.

We had Christie here in NJ last go around. lol, these unlikable guys go into politics and actually succeed. People are followers. It's just human nature.

But anyone still chasing the secretary around the desk in 2021 is really just asking for drama. Likable or not.

At least Christie's lust was for food and not the ladies. God, that's a terrible picture to paint.

I don't think anything is saving him. And yeah, lots of people in NY. Some will think he's been great for the state. I certainly don't think so.

And this market is odd. Not many radio talk show options. The sports talk show hosts (WGR) are all liberals. The "news" talk show hosts (WBEN) are all conservatives. And I think they are all in the same building.

Our MSM options are NPR and Fox. May be others but I'm not aware of them.

Christie had a similar problem. Everyone was happy to knife him during Bridgegate, and one of the reasons was because he wasnt well liked personally.

No chance Governor is a step down to House Member. She is not even a prominent House member who gets key committees yet.

I mean, what assumptions are you putting on her career path or trajectory to think that? That she moves up over the coming years to get Committee head jobs, then possible Speaker or moves to the Senate?

Becoming Governor of NY would instantly put her in the upper echelon of Dem's and put her squarely in any future Dem POTUS considerations. If she managed to do a great job as governor should be amongst top contenders.

I do agree she won't run though.

I also think the governors job, or even Mayors, would end AOC's career.

There is no chance in that chair she could do enough to satisfy the extreme left and they would turn on her expecting her to be an ideologue and reject any practical compromise positions.

I doubt she replaces that base with enough others to stay relevant.

She will be best being the air apparent to Bernie Sanders. Always dogging those in power to move further left but not being in power to implement.

I don't say that to disparage far left views. I would have supported Bernie winning as he could have done as much as was possible as a one term POTUS and just retired if he burned out his base who would have hated him for what he did not get done.

We had that in Ontario Canada when the NDP, under Bob Rae seized power for the first time, maybe ever (but certainly a very long time). Instantly when Bob compromised on some of the more extreme left priorities he was demonized as the devil incarnate. He got some of the largest 'working people' gains of all time that still endure but it was not enough. He had to leave the party and become a 'liberal' instead.

I phrased it poorly. It wouldn't be a step down, but she would be sooooooooooo bad at it. She can keep being bad at her current job while still holding it for, gasp, 60 more years?

Job one. Get elected.
Job two. Find out what the party bosses want and do it.

So far she's pretty good at her 'job'.

I think Nate is right, AOC as governor has a lot of downside risk. It’s basically impossible to do a ‘bad’ job and hurt her rep in the house. They’re going into the opposition so she’ll be able to throw bombs and fundraise.

But I also agree with the sentiment that AOC staying in the house, outside the leadership, is not her path.

Liz Cheney before her fall is a decent analog, she passed on a senate seat but only because she was already #3 in leadership and on the path to speaker. That is not AOC right now.

Hasn't she been opposed to the party bosses plenty? I give people like AOC and Bernie credit. I may not agree with what they say/think, but god damn they do and they aren't going to budge. That's why I also like Sinema, Manchin, Romney.

AOC is all talk when the time comes she votes how Nancy tells her to

Melissa DeRosa just resigned. She always struck me as corrupt and morally bankrupt. Good riddance.

You must follow state politics very closely if you have strong opinions about Melissa DeRosa. She isn't exactly a household name.

She was on TV almost every day for months last year. I think most people I know that follow NY politics even in the slightest would have to know who she is by now.

I knew who she was, and I had vaguely negative views about her because I strongly dislike Cuomo, but that was about as far as it went for me. I wasn't one of the people who tuned in to Cuomo's daily press conferences on COVID.

I had no idea who she was, but FWIW, her resignation was on the front (landing) page of BBC news here this morning, so I guess it's kind of a big deal.

Hickenlooper just did in Colorado.

Mondale tried to transition from VP to Senator (but failed to win).

Sununu (also son of a governor) is being courted by Republicans to attempt it in NH.

But I think the AOC point is that no Governor has ever tried to transition to a member of the House of Representatives.

Oh wait. That creep Mark Sanford in South Carolina who cheated on his wife and then left for Chile. He came back and became a member of the House.

As for Cuomo he will go down like Nixon. When he realizes that impeachment is inevitable he will step down. However it might not become inevitable. He is using Trump like tactics or at lest he may be using $18 million to threaten to campaign against anybody who votes to impeach.

As for the Covid mishandling he did some things very wrong and then tried to suppress it. But he also did some things very right.

At first I thought this whole thing was overblown. But if he groped women without consent then he has to go. Similarly with forcibly kissing women on the lips. And there seem to be witnesses.

If his reaction had been that he had been wrong to do those things and needs to get some help I think he maybe could have survived. But to launch attacks on people who were his accusers is unacceptable.

Her resignation is definitely newsworthy because it is arguably an indication someone on the inside believes this is heading downhill fast.

I've said this before about Cuomo. He is a bully who isn't nearly as smart as he thinks he is. His MO in all human interactions is to exert leverage and use the explicit or implicit threat of negative consequences to get what he wants. What he wants from a female staffer may be different than what he wants from the mayor of NYC or a state legislator in Albany, but his mindset is always the same.

There were some texts leaked at some point last year where she was completely bullying someone in the media. And yeah, guilt by association too w/ Cuomo.

Putting all the covid positive patients in the old folks home was a shrewd move from Cuomo. People forget that when the host dies, the virus dies along with it. Every elderly covid death likely saved dozens if not hundreds of additional lives.

This guy is a whole lot like Trump in that he will burn down anything and everything, people and institutions, in the protection of and furtherance of his own self-image and glory. I said before it is kind of the opposite of Nixon's resistance. Nixon was debased by inferiority and clinging, this guy loaded with superiority and stridently above the common man. So this guy is more intractable than Nixon though it's a massive uphill battle.

Cuomo resigns

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...t-intimidation

I am little surprised that the resigned at all, and I am quite surprised that the resigned today. I thought he would take another couple of weeks to gauge the progress of the move to impeach.

The impeachment is the bigger disgrace than resigning. And disgrace is anathema to his ego. So he took the lesser of two anathemas. He's one of the chosen ones. He's a Cuomo and you're not. The women he abused ought to be grateful for his attention. And in his mind they really are.