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What’s the problem telling kids they may be the victim of racist government or societal policies?

Is anyone telling kids they are oppressors? Don’t you have to oppress to be an oppressor? I don’t think most young kids are doing that

What racist policies?

Racism in education
In healthcare
In jobs
In policing
In the courts
In banking
In dating
In the military

Should I go on?

Seriously? Please elaborate.

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02-09-2023 , 04:18 PM

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Are we trying to coddle them or teach/prepare them?

I think we should be trying to unite the young people of all races instead of emphasizing the differences and prejudices that have caused problems in the past.

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02-09-2023 , 04:34 PM

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CRT is and means nothing.
trust me or look it up. a CRT is i.e. kardiale Resynchronisations-Therapie (CRT)

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02-09-2023 , 04:38 PM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_race_theory

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02-09-2023 , 04:39 PM

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But you're assuming that schools weren't covering these things previously, so they needed to be added now.

Some pretty disingenuous posting from Trolly here.

You asked why the left is so interested in teaching about slavery. I explained why it's very important to teach about slavery. I never said it wasn't already being taught.

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02-09-2023 , 04:49 PM

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You asked why the left is so interested in teaching about slavery. I explained why it's very important to teach about slavery. I never said it wasn't already being taught.

No, if you would have read my post more carefully, you would have seen that I asked why "some on the left suddenly think there seems to be a need to add emphasis on the history of slavery in the US". That's add more teaching about slavery than what has already been done in the past.

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02-09-2023 , 04:58 PM

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Are we trying to coddle them or teach/prepare them?

I'm sure it's not an easy line to find but people can be taught about racism without at the same time teaching them that racism is lurking in the bushes.

It's always worth pointing out that the most successful groups in the US are immigrant communities.

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02-09-2023 , 05:04 PM

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Why is that worth pointing out? I don’t see anyone more successful than the whites in the US.

Why can’t you teach racism is in the bushes?

Also racist policies such as court sentences and legal slavery for prisoners are very much real

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02-09-2023 , 05:06 PM

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Well then you haven't looked around very much.

Indian-Americans are the wealthiest group in the US.

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02-09-2023 , 05:09 PM

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Why is that worth pointing out? I don’t see anyone more successful than the whites in the US.

Why can’t you teach racism is in the bushes?

Also racist policies such as court sentences and legal slavery for prisoners are very much real

Have you really never seen Asians in the US?

Also, there certainly may be racism in the way criminal sentences are given, I have never seen any current actual policies which were racist. If you know of any official policies regarding criminal sentences and penalties that even mention race, I would like to read about them.

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02-09-2023 , 05:28 PM

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CRT is and means nothing.
trust me or look it up. a CRT is i.e. kardiale Resynchronisations-Therapie (CRT)

That's weird because when I looked it up I found a good article that traced the introduction of the crt paradigm from the initial academic books that were then discussed in undergraduate and graduate level college courses.

You're right about it being nothing in high school and junior high school as it was considered a college level topic and wasnt part of almost any high school curriculum. And certainly no elementary school kids were being taught about crt.

Im guessing you didnt read the article I linked to. If you had, I think it would be hard for you to make the case that crt is nothing.

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02-09-2023 , 05:30 PM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_race_theory

Did the multiple warnings in that article concerning the bias and quality of the sources not bother you at all?

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02-09-2023 , 05:34 PM

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Asian men can’t date. Hardly the most successful.

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02-09-2023 , 05:37 PM

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Good job not letting him get away with that. It was a nice try on his part though.

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02-09-2023 , 05:54 PM

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*sigh*

In this case, it seems like your premise totally wrong and slavery isn’t a recent addition to the curriculum.

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02-09-2023 , 06:04 PM

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Asian men can’t date. Hardly the most successful.

Sounds racist honestly.

I mean surely given their population numbers they're doing something right.

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02-09-2023 , 06:40 PM

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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/asian...8a8810e2d0/amp

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02-09-2023 , 08:15 PM

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*sigh*

In this case, it seems like your premise totally wrong and slavery isn’t a recent addition to the curriculum.

No, it's the 1619 Project and lefties fighting for more emphasis on slavery which is recent.

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02-09-2023 , 08:17 PM

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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/asian...8a8810e2d0/amp

Although it may be a bit uncouth to put it like that in your profile, I don't consider it racist to not be attracted to certain looks.

I have seen dating profiles of many (white) women in the past stating they are only looking to date black men. So I guess I've been the victim of racism as well.

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02-09-2023 , 08:21 PM

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White people exploiting brown people for sex is a story as old as the Bible. White is good, free of sin

Black is the opposite

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02-09-2023 , 08:25 PM

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White people exploiting brown people for sex is a story as old as the Bible. White is good, free of sin

Black is the opposite

There is racism in dating but if white people date brown people then that is also racism?

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02-09-2023 , 08:34 PM

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There is racism in dating but if white people date brown people then that is also racism?

It depends why they are dating them

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02-09-2023 , 08:39 PM

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Than it should be simple to ban CRT from Grade school and junior high . If its not taught there and we agree it should not

If it's not taught there, why would we need states passing laws to ban it? Does the state need to pass a law banning each thing we think shouldn't be taught? Why not just let the experts in the field (educators) do their work?

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02-09-2023 , 09:00 PM

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No, it's the 1619 Project and lefties fighting for more emphasis on slavery which is recent.

I guess the most complete answer is that the left wants to teach about slavery for precisely the reasons the right doesn't want to teach about slavery.