What’s going on here? So right wingers really want to make it illegal to talk about systemic racism? Thoughts?

It's actually the right that is pushing critical race theory. It's the right that likes to racialize and divide people up on the basis of skin color. Divide and conquer is an old trick.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/202.../intr-d04.html

The WSWS does a really good job of breaking the 1619 project/CRT.

Could only read halfway through before the terrible arguments and mental gymnastics were too much.

CRT is right wing for we don’t want white kids to be taught that white Americans enslaved black Americans for money, sex and politics?

Just wanna make sure I know what I’m talking about here.

Curious about what you thought the worst argument was

"In fact, despite the color barrier favored by Hannah-Jones, a number of the essays included in the 1619 Project were written by “whites.” These efforts—by sociologist Matthew Desmond and historian Kevin Kruse—were no better than the rest. This only goes to prove that the racialist viewpoint is rooted not in the racial identity of the author, but rather, in his or her class position and ideological orientation."

In any event, even if the Times had to bend its own rules, the “nonnegotiable” and racist insistence that the 1619 Project be produced almost exclusively by blacks was justified with the false claim that white historians had largely ignored the subject of American slavery. And on the rare occasions when white historians acknowledged slavery’s existence, they either downplayed its significance or lied about it. Therefore, only black writers could “tell our story truthfully.” The 1619 Project’s race-based narrative would place “the consequences of slavery and the contributions of black Americans at the very center of the story we tell ourselves about who we are.” [15]

There is no evidence that Hannah-Jones’ study of American history extended beyond the reading of a single book, written in the early 1960s, by the late black nationalist writer, Lerone Bennett, Jr.

“Whiteness” theory, the latest rage, is now utilized to deny historical progress, reject objective truth, and interpret all events and facets of culture through the prism of alleged racial self-interest. On this basis, the sheerest nonsense can be spouted with the guarantee that all objections grounded on facts and science will be dismissed as a manifestation of “white fragility” or some other form of hidden racism. In this degraded environment, Ibram X. Kendi can write the following absurd passage, without fear of contradiction, in his Stamped from the Beginning:

For Enlightenment intellectuals, the metaphor of light typically had a double meaning. Europeans had rediscovered learning after a thousand years in religious darkness, and their bright continental beacon of insight existed in the midst of a “dark” world not yet touched by light. Light, then, became a metaphor for Europeanness, and therefore Whiteness, a notion that Benjamin Franklin and his philosophical society eagerly embraced and imported to the colonies. … Enlightenment ideas gave legitimacy to this long-held racist “partiality,” the connection between lightness and Whiteness and reason, on the one hand, and between darkness and Blackness and ignorance, on the other. [19]

This is a ridiculous concoction that attributes to the word “Enlightenment” a racial significance that has absolutely no foundation in etymology, let alone history. The word employed by the philosopher Immanuel Kant in 1784 to describe this period of scientific advance was Aufklärung, which may be translated from the German as “clarification” or “clearing up,” connoting an intellectual awakening. The English translation of Aufklärung as Enlightenment dates from 1865, seventy-five years after the death of Benjamin Franklin, whom Kendi references in support of his racial argument. [20]

Another term used by English speaking people to describe the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries has been “The Age of Reason,” which was employed by Tom Paine in his scathing assault on religion and all forms of superstition. Kendi’s attempt to root Enlightenment in a white racist impulse is based on nothing but empty juggling with words. In point of fact, modern racism is connected historically and intellectually to the Anti-Enlightenment, whose most significant nineteenth century representative, Count Gobineau, wrote The Inequality of the Human Races. But actual history plays no role in the formulation of Kendi’s pseudo-intellectual fabrications. His work is stamped with ignorance.


Not sure which is the worst

Looks like it....

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...okisme/672775/

You are talking about public grade school right? "The right" isn't too thrilled about CRT being taught in elite universities, but AFAIK there aren't trying to pass any laws to prohibit it. There are a lot of things that children probably shouldn't be exposed to, that it is perfectly reasonable for consenting adults to discuss. It may not be your opinion, but I think it is fair for a democratically elected legislature to decide grade school is not an appropriate venue to discuss racial grievance politics. And if the people who live in that state/county/city disagree they can vote new leadership.

It's certainly within their right to do so, but in general terms, my experience has been that more government interference in education isn't a positive thing. Let the experts do their job, IMO.

Kids have phones by second grade and their friends have older siblings etc--good luck hiding anything from them lol

Unfortunately it's a little more complicated than that. You ask a good question, what's it really mean. That's a good question because it points to the underlying manipulation of the discourse undertaken by opponents of CRT. I would recommend skipping what it actually means, like before it became a curse word. Or if you really want to know, do a google search but make sure the date range of the search excludes anything in the past 7 (?) years. Maybe 10 to be safer.

What CRT really means now, as popularly understood, is education which makes racism a topic of study. The conservative playbook is to take a term, something maybe nebulous or not well understood, portray it as evil since the lack of understanding serves as a sort of blank canvas, then proceed to shovel everything they don't like which is loosely associated, into the term. Once everything is shoveled into one term it can be focused on for a clean attack. Anything race related in education becomes "CRT" and forever linked to some one-off untoward incident initially attributed to CRT . A transgender teacher is an exercise in "grooming". Then it's like a ramp for handicapped people is "wokeism" and we don't like wokeism because it wasn't cool all those times when our favorite entertainer was piled on for a few gay jokes in his distant past 3 years ago.

CRT is the constructed concept bundle that everything that raises awareness of racism is packed into so it all be attacked at once.

I feel like the GOP has mostly moved on from Critical Race Theory to pedophiles as the Great Moral Panic of our age.

Yeah I am surprised kids get phones that young though I doubt they are googling critical race theory

They're going to start googling "critical race theory" the instant they hear it's being banned in their school.

which is bad for them, tbh. because CRT is abstract and hard to define.. pedophilia is easy to point out in real life, and it's mostly coming from inside the house. (gop, clergy..) even the new face of the republicans has a creepy pedo full grown adult trying to have sex with highschoolers photo.

yes you are whataboutism'ing. correct.

I'm content to leave our gentle readers to decide who is guilty of whataboutism-ing.

It's extremely easy for these people to accuse people of being pedos with no real evidence. Just look at lagtit here casually accusing the LGBT movement of supporting pedophilia in five years, your typical GOP politician is capable of being just as shameless and dishonest with the facts.

No, it doesn't. But this seems a good way to have this account go the route of your last one.

I agree, Bobo.

Pretty much over the line imo, laggy.

Yeah, but we like him better

/trolly troll trollycar

Everyone at the table always hates the shortstacker.

No one likes me, they just like homophobia even less.

its def a close call between fascism and homophobia. I cant choose yet.

I deleted a bunch of posts about associating pedophilia and minority groups as well as posts that quoted it. It unacceptable. Shortstacker has been temp banned.

My understanding is that CRT has only actually been taught in Universities, where the GOP hates it, but since they can't easily ban anything being taught there, and it wouldn't be that scandalous anyway, they rave on about banning it in elementary schools where it never was being taught to begin with. Does this seem like an accurate assessment to most here?

While the rage about CRT is pretty stupid, I really don't know why some on the left suddenly think there seems to be a need to add emphasis on the history of slavery in the US.
Was there really anywhere it was not being taught to students in American History classes already? I certainly learned about it in both my elementary and high school history classes. And this was even in a former slave state, although it was in a Catholic school so I'm not that familiar about how it was taught in the public schools, but I can't imagine it was completely glossed over in many places. In HS I definitely even learned that some of the founding fathers and first few presidents were slave owners, and that the main cause of the Civil War was slavery, not the bogus "states' rights" issue (apart from the states' right to keep slavery legal).