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Old 06-28-2021, 11:52 AM   #5151
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It sounds like just racism to me.
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You're a Hitler apologist so lol.
And how would calling Sanger a eugenicist make anything I said bad-faith?

Can you back up your claim that I've apologized for Charles Murray? Otherwise I'm just going to call you a liar-- which you are.
Do you oppose abortion rights?
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Old 06-28-2021, 12:32 PM   #5154
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Do you oppose abortion rights?
One could support or not support abortion rights and still call Sanger a eugenicist. Perhaps you missed that she is being disavowed by abortion rights groups in recent years but you can google that.

But we've also had big threads on abortion here. this one you can search for "joeys" and find my takes.
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One could support or not support abortion rights and still call Sanger a eugenicist. Perhaps you missed that she is being disavowed by abortion rights groups in recent years but you can google that.

But we've also had big threads on abortion here. this one you can search for "joeys" and find my takes.
Do you support abortion rights?
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Old 06-28-2021, 12:52 PM   #5156
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Huh?

I think racism and segregation are both stupid.

It is also stupid to claim that "All white people are racists", which some CRT proponents are claiming.
In a system that's designed to be racist--you don't have to believe in it to still be benefiting from all the aspects of it in a practical sense. That's my read of that line.
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Do you support abortion rights?
Go to that abortion thread, click on one of my posts there, and ask me about it there.
I was just reading it and I was pretty active in there.
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Go to that abortion thread, click on one of my posts there, and ask me about it there.
I was just reading it and I was pretty active in there.
Seems quicker if I just ask you here. Do you think women should be allowed legal access to abortions?
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Old 06-28-2021, 01:36 PM   #5159
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lol Luckbox will jump into a thread talk about Margret Sanger, creator of planned parenthood donchano, of a racist, and then immediate jump out when asked any question.
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Seems quicker if I just ask you here. Do you think women should be allowed legal access to abortions?
How is that relevant to our discussion about Sanger?

You claimed that her views on abortion can be separated from her views on blacks, and I am claiming that they actually can't be.
What does my own personal views on what is a very complex topic have to do with that?
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lol Luckbox will jump into a thread talk about Margret Sanger, creator of planned parenthood donchano, of a racist, and then immediate jump out when asked any question.
I have a **** ton of posts in that abortion thread.
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You claimed that her views on abortion can be separated from her views on blacks, and I am claiming that they actually can't be.
Seems like that(where they stand on race) could be made to carry over for every one on pretty much every issue then no?
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How is that relevant to our discussion about Sanger?

You claimed that her views on abortion can be separated from her views on blacks, and I am claiming that they actually can't be.
What does my own personal views on what is a very complex topic have to do with that?
I suspect that your views on abortion rights are decoupled from Sangerís racist attitudes.

Do you support legalized abortion?
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Old 06-28-2021, 02:44 PM   #5164
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Sanger was a eugenicist who thought black people should be exterminated and it was understood even in her day that expressing those views was unsavory and abortion was seen as a way of limiting the black population Today, abortion effects the black population moreso than any other--which is exactly how it was intended. There is no claim that support for abortion equates to support for eugenics, but the two are absolutely linked.
Relevant post from that thread.
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I gotta wonder what your plan is here. You know I’m gonna keep asking you this until I get an honest answer, right?
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I gotta wonder what your plan is here. You know Iím gonna keep asking you this until I get an honest answer, right?
Abortion is a super complex topic and my thoughts on it are complex.
So complex that I both do and don't support legalized abortion.
Although I've given no money to organizations that are for it or opposed to it. I'm fine-- similar to my thoughts on transwomen in women's sports, with considering it a women's issue for women to decide, and I've known several that I'm quite close with who have made that decision one way or the other.
Legalized abortion does seem preferable to the state mandating against it fwiw, but as a moral issue it's difficult to support.
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Seems like that(where they stand on race) could be made to carry over for every one on pretty much every issue then no?
Gun control? Nah
Immigration policy? Probably
Imperialism and war? Sure
Trade policy? Idk
Abortion? No but for Sanger then yeah
Size of government? Nah
Speech rights issues: Nah
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Gun control? Nah
Immigration policy? Probably
Imperialism and war? Sure
Trade policy? Idk
Abortion? No but for Sanger then yeah
Size of government? Nah
Speech rights issues: Nah
How do we know the nahs don't just fall under the heading of claims?
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Abortion is a super complex topic and my thoughts on it are complex.
So complex that I both do and don't support legalized abortion.
Although I've given no money to organizations that are for it or opposed to it. I'm fine-- similar to my thoughts on transwomen in women's sports, with considering it a women's issue for women to decide, and I've known several that I'm quite close with who have made that decision one way or the other.
Legalized abortion does seem preferable to the state mandating against it fwiw, but as a moral issue it's difficult to support.
It sounds like Margaret Sangerís racist views donít factor into your thinking on abortion rights! Kinda like I said from the get-go!
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Maybe not give them a reason to do it? You know, like not pushing a Marxist ideology on the school children?

You seem to always be more concerned about the right's reaction to the left idiocy.
I am concerned with the right's reaction because the right actually has power so, just by necessity, you have to care more about them than whatever Crenshaw is up to.
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The oppressor/opressee narrative will instill, in some children, at least, a demoralizing view of their own identity...
This seems like poorly written alt-right fan fiction, not an observation of how actual kids from marginalized communities commonly react.
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This seems like poorly written alt-right fan fiction, not an observation of how actual kids from marginalized communities commonly react.
That's a convenient take, given. blacks who express similar sentiment are labeled as uncle Tom's... Not to mention it was a black school teacher who made that point in the video.
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I am concerned with the right's reaction because the right actually has power so, just by necessity, you have to care more about them than whatever Crenshaw is up to.
The right isn't back dooring Marxist indoctrination that discredits liberal values into public schools, in the name of "teaching racism".


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