This day and age is simply going to produce more people who will think in those terms. I have not read anything McWhorter, but I suppose he implies as much in certain examples he puts forth as indicators of progress...

When you have social media influencing thought, with YouTube and technology fostering isolation and incubation of thought (along all stripes), you're gonna get weird results, like that type of thought process which you criticize, incels, mass shooters, and (gasp) conspiracy theorists. It's just a sign of the times, where we've traded in old problems for new

I made a comment once that sometimes the younger generations seem like aliens to me. It was merely highlighting a point, but it is what it is. Thinking on it further, as I said, it's just a sign of the times. They're growing up with tech that completely changed the game, not dissimilar to tech you or I may have grown up with. But I do think social media introduces a whole host of other aspects to the human condition. It's almost as if collectively we are learning more about ourselves than ever before and it's a unique experience, not quite on the same level as the obvious that remains true throughout time and applies to all of us

I think it mostly relates to technology and isolation, but that's just my own theory. It's made us all get weird

The social media hive mind organism has only taken baby steps.

Look the hell out.

I think he's disputing your claim of multiple professors being fired for using the abbreviated/censored version of the n-word, which is a pretty extreme outcome. Or at least asking for evidence of it. I don't think that's being especially nitty.

Folks will dispute any and every example, could be infinite amount of them, then claim there is no evidence.

Just like those who argue cancel culture, wokism i.e. identitarian left, or the mainsteaming of critical race theory isn't really a part of society....

The first post I linked essentially said they were going to look for ways to discredit an example, and he fulfilled his prophecy with subsequent post.

IHIV : Nothing to see here.

:: Waves hands ::

Going on a hunch and say that Disney has not in fact adopted obscure legal theories.

We don't have to go back that far:

https://www.npr.org/sections/live-up...tion-bank-says
https://www.census.gov/data/tables/t...me-people.html

CPS Population and Per Capita Money Income, White Not Hispanic People
Population: 194,858 (000)
Avg. Income: $46,281

CPS Population and Per Capita Money Income, Black People
Population: 47,419 (000)
Avg. Income: $27,024

I think you're completely correct that social media-- and probably mostly twitter specifically-- has fueled a lot of this. McWhorter says that 'woke ideology' wasn't something he observed in his classes until 2014 and twitter seemed to really take off a few years before that.

McWhorter gives a couple other examples in the piece I linked: here
Although the examples aren't quite the same. In the first once she did use and in the second the professor uses a mandarin word.

A widely discussed documentary on James Baldwin in 2019 was carefully titled I Am Not Your Negro, as opposed to what Baldwin actually said in an interview, “I am not your ******.” In 2019 when literature professor Laurie Scheck ventured a discussion in a class at the New School in New York on why Baldwin’s actual phrasing had been elided, she uttered the word itself – only to be reported to the administration by students in her class and narrowly avoid being fired. And then, more recently, she was indeed fired, with no compelling reason given. It is hard to imagine that continued evaluation of the N-word incident in light of the “racial reckoning” starting last summer had nothing to do with this.

And here:

About ten minutes before this, Greg Patton had been dismissed from a class he was teaching at the University of Southern California for mentioning that in Mandarin, the equivalent of the hedging “like” in English is “nèi ge, nèi ge” which translates as “that, that …” but sounds like, well, you know. Not only had Patton given the lecture countless times before with no problems, but – you couldn’t write this better – the class was on communication in global markets!! Yet the usual suspects went about for weeks claiming that Patton had committed a kind of “violence” added to the grinding burden that being black in modern America is.

Fwiw (which is nothing)-- He was asked why he thought the Law school dean hadn't given him a copy of a letter that the BLSA (black law students association) had written, and his response was in jest saying that it was perhaps because she thought that it might make him homicidal. He did not say that he might be that way.

What were the original complaint(s) against this prof to land him in that zoom call

You can't make jokes like that to someone who already doesn't like you. If he ends up going on a homicidal rampage after stating that stupid joke then that school is in for a world of litigation hurt

It dealt with abrogated use of the n-word that appeared in this question on a test dealing with discrimination law: link

After she was fired from her job, Plaintiff sued Employer under federal civil rights law, claiming employment discrimination on the basis of her race and gender. [discussion of other evidence omitted] Employer also revealed that one of Plaintiff's former managers might have damaging information about the case, but no one at Employer knew where that former manager was, since she had abruptly quit her job at Employer several months ago and had not been heard from since. With nothing to go on but the manager's name, Employer's lawyer pieced together several scraps of information and concluded that this former manager must be located in a remote area of northern Wisconsin. Employer's lawyer spent $25,000 to hire a private investigator, who successfully located the former manager in northern Wisconsin. Employer's lawyer traveled to meet the manager, who stated that she quit her job at Employer after she attended a meeting in which other managers expressed their anger at Plaintiff, calling her a "n____" and "b____" (profane expressions for African Americans and women) and vowed to get rid of her.

Later, Plaintiff's lawyer served [another discovery demand, omitted, and] an interrogatory demanding the identity and location of any person with any information related to the termination of Plaintiff's employment at Employer or potential discrimination against Plaintiff by Employer or any agent of Employer.

Can Employer identify the former manager but properly withhold her location, as this is the product of a significant amount of work and expense by Employer's attorney?

Students in the class complained and started what I understand was a pretty vicious campaign against the professor. He met with one person who represented the BLSA and they talked about apparently 4 hours or so. The "homicidal maniac" thing was 60-90 minutes into the call, where he was asked why he thought the law school dean hadn't forwarded him an attack letter to the BLSA had written, with his response was that perhaps she was afraid it would turn him into a homicidal maniac. We'd of course need that letter to get the full context although I imagine that'll come out in court.

Is the prof suing the school

You do understand if he does indeed go on to commit homicide at that school then they are fcked right

I actually have no clue there. It looks like he might have been reinstated but I'm trouble finding that information. https://campusreform.org/?id=16754

Kilborn told Campus Reform that his classes “were cancelled for the entire semester on the very first day of class. He said he also had to undergo “an agonizing several-week period of ‘administrative leave,’” during which he was “barred from campus and prevented from participating in normal faculty communications and activities, including my elected position on the university promotion and tenure committee.”

Kilborn said he was compelled to submit to three hours of mental examination and a drug test by university doctors and a social worker, broken into two segments spanning the course of a week.

So I assume he still has his job.

Was abt to say there is no way he is going back without a psych exam. They just don't need the liability

And there we are.

You won't get an argument from me that one can find examples of some over-reactions by employers - the exaggerations really aren't needed and don't make a stronger case.

That has nothing to do with critical race theory, bro. You did it with the farm thing, and now you're trying to do it with this. Rejecting critical race theory isn't rejecting the existence of racism. You're constant need to hijack this thread is getting tired.

Disney goes woke

Of course it's the professor's word as to the exact words and the tone with which it was said. It can be "in jest" and also have a lingering seriousness to it. And it was coming from a law professor whom you'd think would understand about context and how words can be used against you, so that limits any sympathy even further.

But my point is that you mentioned this story in a way as if it was going to be a gleaming example of something, but the example was put forward in a way that made it sound like something much stronger than what it was. And it's not a coincidence that I predicted that. Whenever these kind of issues are discussed people have a tendency to cite some really clear cut example, an example that turns out to be something far less on inspection.

It's the same thing we get with "free speech" on campuses, or over here Brexit and the evil EU, immigrants and their massive benefits claims etc. People always have "a number" of examples and yet always the first one they pick turns out to be almost nothing.

Good listen:

An eye popping number, but not surprised. I remember Marianne Williamson saying something about a numerical debt based on 40 acres and a mule:



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I had 2013 in my head because I thought Facebook sort of took off in popularity that year and I've read disturbing statistics like suicide among young teens took a sharp rise at the same time

I just think as a collective we haven't fully adjusted to the social media era. It's this tool that became powerful beyond measure and expectation and unintended consequence. Gov't struggles to regulate it, nor do they know what to do with it. And they have their own agendas on top of that

I feel like I need to watch The Matrix again...

Yeah, the irony being that racial discrimination is probably costing whites more in the aggregate than blacks.
That sounds about right but maybe a little low roi because it looks like the black-white hh wealth gap is currently around $750K:

Watching the segment and within the first 30 seconds "Disney is brainwashing its employees to support defunding the police and support reparations."

I don't care whatever new buzz words Disney uses in the diversity training I'm going to assume that Disney is not telling their employees to defund the police and back legislation for reparations.

I assume Disney plans to hold on to all of their billions. Let's not get too crazy now--how about we just print out a few pamphlets