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06-20-2021 , 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
IHIV busy arguing black people are not responsible enough to be given money so for their own good it should not be done.

Also of course' giving POC money for past abuse and theft of their wealth, would be "racial discrimination" (a transgression against whites) and he is against that. Any solution must provide money to all and not just POC'.

FLOL
This is a consistent theme, and you inverses the point, and incidentally exposes your own racism. People are irresponsible with money, especially poor to lower middle class ones who have no real skills on how to develop wealth. You translate that as to talking about black people. Remember, your side is the one who isolates the conversation to just black people when it comes to poverty, and it's self-perpetuating cycle. This is the third time I've caught you being a racist.

People behave pretty similarly within the same socioeconomic status, no matter what race they are.

This is why, despite whatever purported "white privilege" you think poor white people have, they remain in generational poverty, just as people in any other racial group.

Last edited by itshotinvegas; 06-20-2021 at 11:58 AM.
06-20-2021 , 12:02 PM
06-20-2021 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
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Critical pedagogy is a philosophy of education and social movement that developed and applied concepts from critical theory and related traditions to the field of education and the study of culture.[1]

It insists that issues of social justice and democracy are not distinct from acts of teaching and learning.[2] The goal of critical pedagogy is emancipation from oppression through an awakening of the critical consciousness, based on the Portuguese term conscientização. When achieved, critical consciousness encourages individuals to effect change in their world through social critique and political action in order to self-actualize.

Critical pedagogy was founded by the Brazilian philosopher and educator Paulo Freire, who promoted it through his 1968 book, Pedagogy of the Oppressed. It subsequently spread internationally, developing a particularly strong base in the United States, where proponents sought to develop means of using teaching to combat racism, sexism, and oppression. As it grew, it incorporated elements from fields like the Human rights movement, Civil rights movement, Disability rights movement, Indigenous rights movement, postmodern theory, feminist theory, postcolonial theory, and queer theory.

Like I said, let the critical race theorists speak for themselves and they'll expose they are outright Marxist/critical theorists engaging in praxis.
06-20-2021 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
Seems like a pretty smart teacher. Imagine posting this as some sort of bad thing and outing yourself as being pro-oppression.
06-20-2021 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Seems like a pretty smart teacher. Imagine posting this as some sort of bad thing and outing yourself as being pro-oppression.
Smart is relative. The smartest critical theorist in the room are the ones who expose the the philosophical underpinnings, which make them kind of dumb, because majority of Americans reject Marxist ideology, but more influentially, they reject Marxist dialect/vernacular.

It's like that MLH interview where he essentially regurgitated critical theory to defend critical race theory, consequently exposing himself as a Marxist, at least for the TV audience, cause who really knows if he buys into the stuff.

Keep believing marxism sells well in the United States.
06-20-2021 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
Smart is relative. The smartest critical theorist in the room are the ones who expose the the philosophical underpinnings, which make them kind of dumb, because majority of Americans reject Marxist ideology, but more influentially, they reject Marxist dialect/vernacular.
lol. You think the average American could explain what a Marxist dialect is? They know to be afraid of Marxism thanks to decades of propaganda, but not what any of it is.
06-20-2021 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
lol. You think the average American could explain what a Marxist dialect is? They know to be afraid of Marxism thanks to decades of propaganda, but not what any of it is.
Would love to know what HIV thinks "Marxist dialect" actually means. Or "Marxist vernacular."
06-20-2021 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
lol. You think the average American could explain what a Marxist dialect is? They know to be afraid of Marxism thanks to decades of propaganda, but not what any of it is.
And of course thanks to lies from the far right, what they consider Marxist like Obama or Biden's platform is actually quite popular.
06-20-2021 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
lol. You think the average American could explain what a Marxist dialect is? They know to be afraid of Marxism thanks to decades of propaganda, but not what any of it is.

They're certainly not going to learn about Marxism on MSNBC, not when mainstream media keep denying what this stuff is based on.

That's kind of the tell, right? You or they can't be honest about their/your beliefs because of stigma. (Rightly earned stigma, I might add).
06-20-2021 , 02:18 PM


When the prominent populist of your ideology says stuff like this, you're in a bad way

Last edited by itshotinvegas; 06-20-2021 at 02:32 PM. Reason: Kendi
06-20-2021 , 02:55 PM
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Ted Cruz's erroneous definition of critical race theory

"Critical race theory says every white person is a racist," the senator asserted.
"Critical race theory says America's fundamentally racist and irredeemably racist.
Critical race theory seeks to turn us against each other and if
someone has a different color skin, seeks to make us hate that person."
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/ted-cr...white-n1271484
06-20-2021 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Seems like a pretty smart teacher. Imagine posting this as some sort of bad thing and outing yourself as being pro-oppression.
"When you don't want to teach future generations about how these systems were designed to oppress people, you're taking the side of the oppressor and being racist."—vid quote
That's pretty much Marxist. Near enough anyway. Once they go beyond telling students the Marxist or CRT take on oppression and dominance theory and start telling them that's the way things are, that's Marxist indoctrination irrespective of whether we refer to it as anti-oppression and its opposition as pro-oppression.
06-20-2021 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by John21
"When you don't want to teach future generations about how these systems were designed to oppress people, you're taking the side of the oppressor and being racist."—vid quote
That's pretty much Marxist. Near enough anyway. Once they go beyond telling students the Marxist or CRT take on oppression and dominance theory and start telling them that's the way things are, that's Marxist indoctrination irrespective of whether we refer to it as anti-oppression and its opposition as pro-oppression.
OK, how would you give a more honest, non-Marxist-indoctrination history of e.g. the Tulsa Massacre, redlining, poll taxes, literacy tests, modern voter suppression laws etc. without mentioning the specific intent to oppress? I mean, I learned about the Nazis rounding up the Jews in school, and no one called that Marxist indoctrination.
06-20-2021 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
Like I said, let the critical race theorists speak for themselves and they'll expose they are outright Marxist/critical theorists engaging in praxis.
You still haven't come close to explaining what's wrong with Marxism.
06-20-2021 , 05:07 PM


Just history...


https://www.hwdsb.on.ca/about/equity...ace-JUNIOR.pdf

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The logical conclusion of Marxism is revolution.
06-20-2021 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
You still haven't come close to explaining what's wrong with Marxism.
It's tough for a communist to understand. It undermines liberal and capitalistic values. That's a positive in your mind.

Revolution means a s*** ton of people die.
06-20-2021 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
People behave pretty similarly within the same socioeconomic status, no matter what race they are.
Seems a fair few poor white people were able to turn the various showerings of goodies over the years into stability/wealth/providing a foundation for their kids etc and in many cases is still going into the present. Oddly enough the cynical take on things(they're just poors and are gonna lose it anyway lol) never won out--instead it's all part of the stuff of American legend

Now when it comes to making good on giving those same kinds of opportunities to the people who got blocked out--they're just a bunch of losers anyway lol
06-20-2021 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
Revolution means a s*** ton of people die.
Imagine saying this like the American status quo doesn't have a massive amount of blood on its hands, foreign and domestic.
06-20-2021 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by wet work
Seems a fair few poor white people were able to turn the various showerings of goodies over the years into stability/wealth/providing a foundation for their kids etc and in many cases is still going into the present. Oddly enough the cynical take on things(they're just poors and are gonna lose it anyway lol) never won out--instead it's all part of the stuff of American legend

Now when it comes to making good on giving those same kinds of opportunities to the people who got blocked out--they're just a bunch of losers anyway lol
What I know is, major metropolitan cities where there's a significant percentage of people of color, Democrats have failed them. The focus on critical race theory and critical praxis in these schools, is just another failure. This time it presents an existential threat to the country and public education.
06-20-2021 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
What I know is, major metropolitan cities where there's a significant percentage of people of color, Democrats have failed them. The focus on critical race theory and critical praxis in these schools, is just another failure. This time it presents an existential threat to the country and public education.
Well you'll get no real arguments out of me that we've failed many people over the years--maybe all that affirmative action for white people let a lot of otherwise ****birds into positions they wouldn't have gotten to w/o all that lopsided help

Kinda the same reason why supporting aristocracy is a doomed proposition. Inevitably our trump#6s etc are going up against the real thing--and they just get taken apart.

Last edited by wet work; 06-20-2021 at 06:13 PM.
06-20-2021 , 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
OK, how would you give a more honest, non-Marxist-indoctrination history of e.g. the Tulsa Massacre, redlining, poll taxes, literacy tests, modern voter suppression laws etc. without mentioning the specific intent to oppress? I mean, I learned about the Nazis rounding up the Jews in school, and no one called that Marxist indoctrination.
Not saying or implying that our entire sociopolitical system was "designed to oppress people groups" would be a good place to start. As far as how to discuss issues, just put them in the form of a GED question:

Social Studies Test
1. The military–industrial complex (MIC) describes....
a) the relationship between a nation's military and the defense industry that supplies it.
b) a system that was designed to oppress people groups.
06-20-2021 , 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
You still haven't come close to explaining what's wrong with Marxism.
P1: Democracy is wrong.
P2: Marxism is democracy.
C: Marxism is wrong.
06-20-2021 , 07:20 PM
06-20-2021 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas


Just history...


https://www.hwdsb.on.ca/about/equity...ace-JUNIOR.pdf

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The logical conclusion of Marxism is revolution.
Or a silicon Valley education start up
06-20-2021 , 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
Or a silicon Valley education start up
As I said, most of these public schools that's engaging in this indoctrination hired CRT consultants.

It's not just public schools, though... This stuff is happening in the AMA, or the medical profession together, as well.

      
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