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Murder by lesbian couple, child service gone wrong Murder by lesbian couple, child service gone wrong

06-29-2021 , 01:19 PM
Please dont read this if you are senisitve or already had a bad day etc.
its pretty sinister.

cliffs:

-spiritual, lesbian couble uses children to put on a show
-child services fails, big time.
-numerous reports of abuse and negelect
-couple seeks glory by adopting 6 black children
-the hero image could not be held up and they killed the whole family
-some of the worst is that they took the children from a perfectly safe place
-an aunt of 3 if these kids was the perfect parent,
-they took the kids from here and gave them to these idiots who killed them


this is the picture that went viral after the ferguson riots. In the picture you see Devon, the child they adopted and killed later ( they made him do this to gain glory and pictures for facebook etc. They wanted to be heros. Well how all this backfired you will see later.





Absolutely disgusting, that child later went to neighbours numerous times and begged for food, becuase his two "mothers" were starving the children. Honestly, this is so crazy, child service had several complaints but did nothing. Ok, the couple kept moving states, but still they should have done something, there were endless signs. They beat thier children, starved them, it became obvious how ridicolous it was when police went inside thier home of them living, to find nothing. Nothing that would indicate kids lived there, no toys, no pictures, absolutely nothing.

It is assumed that they adopted to pocket money, not only from the state but also from fame though social media.

Finally when the police and child services came knocking their door for complaints against them from neoghbours and friends, (yes their own "friends" tired to expose them, becuase they thought the kids would be in danger) they took off once again, this time riding thier truck down a cliff in CA.

Im shocked and stunned by this, they were from the "spiritual" community.
Their slogan was "love" lmfao.



Here you see a shrink analying them- He does a good job but he missed that the house had nothing in it that would indicate they were living there. (six children and no toys, nothing childish, and no photos) This makes me mad actually.



This woman summs it up good too.




Or here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAK71w0Eb0A
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06-29-2021 , 01:53 PM
Insanity comes in all shapes and sizes.

The best case for abortion is the lack of sufficient alternatives for unloved and unwanted children. But if you lower the bar for adoption and still include the stipend, you'll just create more stories like this.

That said, there is no shortage of abuse happening behind closed doors of non-foster families, too. People are pretty shitty.

Not sure how any of this is purely political. They received a slap on the wrist for clear child abuse in 2008, but that was a long time ago. I doubt their LGBT political protection badge helped much there.
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06-29-2021 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
Insanity comes in all shapes and sizes.

The best case for abortion is the lack of sufficient alternatives for unloved and unwanted children. But if you lower the bar for adoption and still include the stipend, you'll just create more stories like this.

That said, there is no shortage of abuse happening behind closed doors of non-foster families, too. People are pretty shitty.

Not sure how any of this is purely political. They received a slap on the wrist for clear child abuse in 2008, but that was a long time ago. I doubt their LGBT political protection badge helped much there.
The thing what makes it so bad is these children were already dealt the losing hand. They were vounerable already when they were given up for adoption. That they gave them to 2 highly unstable people speaks volume to me.

That should have never happened. These 2 werent even able to have a normal relationship with anyone, they were constanly moving. How could they have given them 6 children?

Not to speak of the numerous reports of abuse (beatings) and the reported malnourishment of the children. Does the USA suck really suck so much in that regard? I know its hard to adopt in europe, they do a lot of screenings, any to my knowlege nowbody gets 6 kids.

They only had 40k income a year total. How do you want to feed 6 kids off that?
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06-29-2021 , 02:22 PM
I heard about this case before, another piece on it here.
Dr Grande is a clown btw who does't bother researching cases
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06-29-2021 , 02:26 PM
There is a very long line of people in the US waiting for tiny pink babies and very few waiting for brown ones born to people with substance abuse problems.

Those 3 Davis kids were taken away from their aunt because she violated the no-contact order with their mother. There may have been room for some rule-bending there but who knows what the mitigating circumstances were. You're not going to get those details from a YouTube video focused on hating the lesbians.

You can feed 6 kids pretty easily on 40k a year because of how much money the government will throw at you for being so far below the poverty line for a family of 8. Add in the adoption stipend and the lack of resources wasn't the problem. They clearly had other problems.
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06-29-2021 , 02:37 PM
I think this story fits in here because this is supposed to be a politics AND society thread. right?
Anyways. What I found is a good point of debate is the fact that the foster care system is run by individual states and not the federal gov. Each individual state has their own rules and requirements. I can imagine a foster care couple being blacklisted in one state and moving to another state to have a clean slate and start abusing the system all over again.
It seems that this is what happened with this couple, but I haven't watched the whole video yet.
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06-29-2021 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Nepeeme2008
I think this story fits in here because this is supposed to be a politics AND society thread.
You may have a point here, so I deleted my post.

Edit to add: Understood about it not being a criticism, but upon reflection I thought my post wasn't fair to the OP, and was unneeded.

Last edited by Bobo Fett; 06-29-2021 at 02:54 PM. Reason: Addressed reply; didn't want to derail with another post.
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06-29-2021 , 02:46 PM
Oh, you didn't have to do that.
That was in no way intended as a criticism.

I like this Emma Kenny. Surprised this doesn't have more views.
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06-29-2021 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Nepeeme2008
I think this story fits in here because this is supposed to be a politics AND society thread. right?
Anyways. What I found is a good point of debate is the fact that the foster care system is run by individual states and not the federal gov. Each individual state has their own rules and requirements. I can imagine a foster care couple being blacklisted in one state and moving to another state to have a clean slate and start abusing the system all over again.
It seems that this is what happened with this couple, but I haven't watched the whole video yet.
This is what happened. I have heard a few indicators for this. As soon as child service was on their neck, they moved. They also took the kids out of school when the teachers were told stories by the kids. (Or when they discovered signs of beatings by a belt) and homeschooled them. Yes! And they didn't do anything.
They wanted to keep their mouthed shut so the isolated them.
The last time they ran off was this, when child service came to them 3 times with the door unanswered. The neighbours unvovered it. That's when they felt their whole life would have been revealed. So they drove off a cliff, with the kids.
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06-29-2021 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
You may have a point here, so I deleted my post.

Edit to add: Understood about it not being a criticism, but upon reflection I thought my post wasn't fair to the OP, and was unneeded.
If you meant 'other news' here in politics I could agree.
If you meant nvg, I don't even post there too much anymore because of too many trolls. I find that people here in politics are far more civil.

Btw, Bobo, Jesse, from the dispute with 3 amigos is not responding to me. Don't know what to make of it. But wanted to let you know.
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06-29-2021 , 03:08 PM
Yeah, pretty tragic story. I think this case not only highlights major faults in the foster care system, but also the role that race plays in attitudes towards children. I don't know if turning over the foster care system to the federal gov. is the answer, or even feasible, but maybe a good starting point for reforms would be the Fed's setting some national guidelines for each state to adhere to?
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06-29-2021 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Nepeeme2008
Oh, you didn't have to do that.
That was in no way intended as a criticism.

I like this Emma Kenny. Surprised this doesn't have more views.
Emma is not stupid, didn't know of her before.
Kind if like her too. She is british right?
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06-29-2021 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
There is a very long line of people in the US waiting for tiny pink babies and very few waiting for brown ones born to people with substance abuse problems.

Those 3 Davis kids were taken away from their aunt because she violated the no-contact order with their mother. There may have been room for some rule-bending there but who knows what the mitigating circumstances were. You're not going to get those details from a YouTube video focused on hating the lesbians.

You can feed 6 kids pretty easily on 40k a year because of how much money the government will throw at you for being so far below the poverty line for a family of 8. Add in the adoption stipend and the lack of resources wasn't the problem. They clearly had other problems.
That makes sense. Although in a perfect world they would have left them with the aunt. She was working a good job and was really the best option. Not only in retrospect. She was the perfect candidate and she wanted to adopt them.

I know she violated, but wtf? She had their birth mother babysit the kids bc she had something to do for a day. So what? Like that isn't happening anyways sooner or later. It's the birthmother! Bend the rules imo.

That's still much better than to give them to some narc and deranged idiot strangers who abuse and kill them in my books.

Last edited by washoe; 06-29-2021 at 03:25 PM.
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06-29-2021 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
I heard about this case before, another piece on it here.
Dr Grande is a clown btw who does't bother researching cases
I have had the same opinion of Dr Grande before, but after seing this vid of him I changed my mind. He is spot on and must had deeply researched.

Look beyond the looks of him he is accurate in everything about this. Maybe you jump the gun too fast here. You were right about the other cases too. But not this guy and not about another ONE!
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06-29-2021 , 03:25 PM
Yeah well, hindsight is 20/20.

In an alternate timeline where the aunt leaves the kids with mom for a day and the youngest one finds a needle or eats some powder and overdoses, we'd be upset about that as well. Then what if you find out that social workers knew the aunt had been violating the no-contact order but they let it slide because "it's the birthmother!"
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06-29-2021 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
Yeah well, hindsight is 20/20.

In an alternate timeline where the aunt leaves the kids with mom for a day and the youngest one finds a needle or eats some powder and overdoses, we'd be upset about that as well. Then what if you find out that social workers knew the aunt had been violating the no-contact order but they let it slide because "it's the birthmother!"
I think you are right about the hindsight part. Nevertheless imo in Europe they would have handled it differently. The dangers of being exposed to a stranger outweighs the dangers of being with a junkie for one day, especially of the junkie is their mother. The aunt had a perfect record. In my world or in any perfect world they would have stayed with the family.
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06-30-2021 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Yorkshire maybe?
*Googled-- Manchester apparently. Yorkshire accent is the best though.
You googled her? I did too, but couldnt find anything.
She is from the uk she says here around min 0.40. Nepeeme was right, and I knew when blade said it. I think he is from the UK.



Best accent is this here imo :




Did anyone mention that the couple was educated to work with elementary school children? One had a degree the other one studied it too, thats how they met. Only one finished the degree though. They went to Bernie Sanders rallies. With at least one kid, always holding a sign that said free hugs. Oh yea, the perfect family.
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