It is sort of ridiculous that they've opened golf but left the basketball courts closed.

Why? In golf you can easily play without getting within 50 feet of someone. Basketball is a contact sport with up to 10 players in very close contact while respiring hard.

As an aside they took down all the rims in public places in the entire city I live in, except one public grade school they left them up. A few days a week I have been sneaking with my son to the school to shoot some hoops with me, which I think has been good for him.

I have no problem with golf courses being open. I'm a block away from one and it's pleasant to hear the sounds and walk around the course. Just not playing this gane where we pretend race and class don't matter in their re-openings.

Basketball is typically played by young healthy people whereas golf is played by old people who are more susceptible

After those young, healthy, asymptomatic people finish their game they then go home and eat dinner with their parents or grandparents. What happens then?

All the best.

The city I live in pretty much has no black people living in it, and most of the people playing on the courts are white or Asian, consistent with the overall demographics.

Basketball is overwhelmingly black at the professional level (because at the highest level the best players are disproportionately black), but that isn't really the case at the amateur level, especially when it comes to parks in white/Asian suburbs.

I don't think your concern really maps reality all that well.

I'm concerned? What am I concerned about? I want golf courses to be open. Did you miss that part?

Ok. You seemed to be stating there was some racial dynamics going on with selective re-openings.

I actually agree that CLASS might be a factor, but don't see what race specifically has to do with it.

Cities make a lot of money from rich people playing golf. As long as the cash is green, I don't think they care what color the owner of the wallet is.

They're also mostly white.

have you ever played basketball?

its one of the dirtiest activities ever.. even after playing in a clean gym with an indoor ball your hands are black with grime and other people's sweat and dirt.. plus you absolutely either licked your hand to touch the bottom of your sneaker or spit on the floor/ground somewhere..

that's not even getting into the fact that people are breathing directly into your face from inches away sometimes or on to you/over your shoulder..

Quite so. So what?

If it were a mostly black game, it wouldn't be prioritized.

FWIW, Kemp wants to open everything up becauae he's stupid. But across the country in places where this virus is taken seriously, golf is prioritized.

Going to have to take time to digest this very surprising development.

As for yutes playing basketball, raw numbers maybe, but on a percentage basis, absolute black kids in the US are more likely to play basketball.

There's really not that many black people on the west coast.

https://demographics.virginia.edu/DotMap/index.html

There are some racial dynamics in play. I'm just not much concerned about it. I expect it.

Yes! And it is a very powerful moral argument!

First, I think a lot of you don't understand what flattening the curve means. It is not about eliminating COVID 19 but slowing the spread so hospitals can handle it. 300,000 Americans are still going to die of this, but it won't be 600,000, because everyone who wants treatment can get it.

No hospital systems have been overwhelmed. Time to open back up.

If you are arguing we need to eliminate COVID 19, that is not the path the country has gone down. That means sheltering in place for 4 years.

BUT, given the national direction of flattening the curve to not overwhelm hospitals, it is immoral to not open up at this point. Maybe not New York city, or northern counties of New Jersey, but where there isn't a problem, time to get back to work!

Read the trump thread. It's all donnie supporters that don't seem to understand what flattening the curve is all about.

Or where there isn't a problem, we'll make one by opening up.

Also, who doesn't know about preventing community spread as the objective? And where are getting four years from?

4 years is my optimistic view point on how long it will take to develop a vaccination and get it to the public.

My estimate is that once a vaccine is created, it will take 18 months for everyone that wants it to get a dose.

330,000,000 are not showing up to Wall Greens or CVS the same day.

Also, my understanding is that scientists don't quite yet understand the mutations of this.

I know every major pharma company is making a push.

Gates, Fauci, et. al. might have been working on a vaccine for several years now. They both were part of investing in the Wuhan Lab, according to a forthcoming book by Jesse Morrell.

Not only is the hospital system not being overwhelmed, new cases are on a downward trend.

So far so good!

The fire is just past its peak. Time to go back inside, everyone!

Georgia is not having problems and people are starting to regain a semblance of normal.

Looks like Brian Kemp got it right!