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07-09-2020 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
Lagtight might as well be acting like he is living in the Game of Thrones universe.
Nothing screams Jesus Lover more than a little Ruthless Free Market efficiency/Every man for themselves bloodlust
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07-09-2020 , 08:19 PM
If Trump wins both the election and the ObamaCare challenge allowing Insurance companies to kick people off plans for 'pre-existing conditions and then force them into far more expensive insurance pools, the next gutting of the middle class will be exactly that.

Covid is being found to leave scars and issues with people who recover and even some who are asymptomatic. Insurance companies will classify all these people 'higher risk' and only offer them much more expensive insurance.

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07-09-2020 , 08:53 PM
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COVID-19 death tolls now rising in key states after weeks of decline nationwide
As caseloads rose, the Trump administration kept saying that death rates were falling. But in Arizona, Texas and other hard-hit states, deaths are up.
This was and continues be a preventable tragedy of historical proportions.

Ignorance is directly killing people. People here are contributing to this.
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07-09-2020 , 09:18 PM
Hey where's adios, he was posting 3-day averages of deaths every day for like a week but stopped yesterday



oh
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07-09-2020 , 09:22 PM
60,000 and almost cracked a 1000 deaths
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07-09-2020 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Hey where's adios, he was posting 3-day averages of deaths every day for like a week but stopped yesterday



oh
I wonder why you used 3 day average instead of 7 day averages like you normally do?

I noticed the dip preceding this latest rise was the lowest point on the whole graph since March. Maybe it is because the number was artificially low over the July 4th holiday and numbers were added on during the last 3 days, and you wanted to obfuscate this to support your argument better?

Anyways, I suspect we will see an uptick in deaths following states opening up. I mean the entire world is showing this to happen, although at much lower scales because they controlled the virus much better during lockdowns. But purposefully showing distorted graphs to amplify what is going on isn't doing anyone any favors IMO.
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07-09-2020 , 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelhus100
I wonder why you used 3 day average instead of 7 day averages like you normally do?
Because the point of my post was to clown on adios, who insists on using 3-day for some bizarre reason even though I've told him it's silly.

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Originally Posted by Kelhus100
I noticed the dip preceding this latest rise was the lowest point on the whole graph since March. Maybe it is because the number was artificially low over the July 4th holiday and numbers were added on during the last 3 days, and you wanted to obfuscate this to support your argument better?
If that were true, 7-day average wouldn't also be rising and at its highest level in the last 2 weeks. Spoiler: it is.

As always, lol Kelhus, numbers are for smart people not dumbasses like you
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07-09-2020 , 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
Having 80% of people wearing masks at protests and 5% of people at protests makes a massive difference. Do not be this disingenuous. You know better.



Stop paying attention to Kelhus and luckbox. Everything is not the fault of the media and black people.
Hey ****head.
When have I ever said anything is the fault of black people? Why are you allowed to constantly lie here?
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07-09-2020 , 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
This was and continues be a preventable tragedy of historical proportions.

Ignorance is directly killing people. People here are contributing to this.
I don't know man.

I mean hospitals again are starting to be over run and tents and other make-shifts are being used in certain areas.




I am starting to think Trump is right. Cut the testing in half or to a quarter and we will have 50-75% less people in the hospital and dying.

In all seriousness the media has to entirely stop talking about testing. Take that garbage talking point away from Trump and his surrogates. Instead focus solely on hospitalizations and deaths. Make them address hospitalizations and deaths.
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07-10-2020 , 04:09 AM
They just need to staff up.


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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Hey where's adios, he was posting 3-day averages of deaths every day for like a week but stopped yesterday

Well, I did mention this to him

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Originally Posted by Monteroy
I think it is great that you keeps posting your chosen data, and you will do that until the data is not that good to post for your agenda.
My next prophecy - the sun will rise in the east (except for those who live on the flat Earth).
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07-10-2020 , 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Kelhus100
I wonder why you used 3 day average instead of 7 day averages like you normally do?

I noticed the dip preceding this latest rise was the lowest point on the whole graph since March. Maybe it is because the number was artificially low over the July 4th holiday and numbers were added on during the last 3 days, and you wanted to obfuscate this to support your argument better?

Anyways, I suspect we will see an uptick in deaths following states opening up. I mean the entire world is showing this to happen, although at much lower scales because they controlled the virus much better during lockdowns. But purposefully showing distorted graphs to amplify what is going on isn't doing anyone any favors IMO.
Ignoring the self-own in the first two paragraphs as it has already been addressed, but in response to the third, one of the worst and definitely the earliest hit country in Europe, Italy, is an example of your comment being false.
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07-10-2020 , 07:36 AM
The death rate is falling.

Sorry to ruin your liberal narrative.

600,000 Americans were always going to die from this horrible disease.

It is what it is. Hong Kong and Japan are also exploding in cases.

Mr. Wookie is quoting countries that are not as populated as the US is and does not have the ability to test the way we do.

We can watch Houston. Houston, WE HAVE A PROBLEM!

And, the whole BLM Protests didn't spread it, is total nonsense. BUT! It doesn't matter. There are no problems. A bunch of people are going to get a cold.

The Trump administration and CDC have requirements for old folks homes.

This is a horrible disease, no question, but it has been defeated. Old people are going to have to segregate for a bit. And, you know, that is a horrible thing. Grand parents not going to be able to see their grandchildren.

This breaks my heart. But, it is what it is. Total VICTORY OVER COVID.

Any other narrative is nonsense.
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07-10-2020 , 07:40 AM
AND STOP WITH YOUR GRAPHS!

The people testing positive are people that don't even need to be tested. The young people have no problems with this.

Yeah, they need to keep away from their grandparents. No question. But, don't bring the disease to old folks homes. Sorry, governor Cuomo, you screwed up.

But, we got this. It is not a problem. No hospitals will be overwhelmed.

Who will take a victory lap with me?

COVID IS DEFEATED! Let's move on to the next things.
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07-10-2020 , 07:47 AM
Let's get a person who died by not having a ventilator. WOOKIE, has anyone in this country been denied treatment for COVID?

Anyone been denied a ventialtor?

It's total victory.
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07-10-2020 , 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by WaitingOnAP
A friend of mine is 36. He spent 60 days in the ICU struggling to breathe with covid. He requires a mask to breath during the day, and bipap at night. He had no medical problems before this. Now, his kidneys might come back to normal and he needs a lung transplant. He recently got discharged to a long term acute care facility. He hasn't seen his child since March. He volunteered to go to work in ERs in the worse bit of the pandemic in NYC.

I have a lot more experiences like that if you want to hear them.
He got treatment? He is doing better?

Look, I agree, this is a terrible disease. It is awful. But no AMERICAN has been denied treatment.
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07-10-2020 , 07:56 AM
Time for a victory lap.

We beat COVID!

6 feet apart, and masks? Okay. I don't want this. It is red and spongey and has spikes.

It is scary and nasty.

But, hospitals won't be overwhelmed. No one is going to die in the streets. Take the victory lap!

Be happy!
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07-10-2020 , 08:00 AM
Smudger, do you just come to this thread every time you drop some acid to spew your delirious fantasies ?
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07-10-2020 , 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Smudger2408
He got treatment? He is doing better?

Look, I agree, this is a terrible disease. It is awful. But no AMERICAN has been denied treatment.
How do you know that? Could a poor person not gone to the hospital because he has no insurance or health care.
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07-10-2020 , 08:59 AM
Terrifying:
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Patients were assessed a mean of 60.3 (SD, 13.6) days after onset of the first COVID-19 symptom; at the time of the evaluation, only 18 (12.6%) were completely free of any COVID-19–related symptom, while 32% had 1 or 2 symptoms and 55% had 3 or more. None of the patients had fever or any signs or symptoms of acute illness. Worsened quality of life was observed among 44.1% of patients. The Figure shows that a high proportion of individuals still reported fatigue (53.1%), dyspnea (43.4%), joint pain, (27.3%) and chest pain (21.7%).
2 months after and still sick...
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07-10-2020 , 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Smudger, do you just come to this thread every time you drop some acid to spew your delirious fantasies ?
Well, to be fair - as he replied to himself 5 times in a scattered manner, he did leave out "just staff up" this time. At least he stuck to blaming BLM only, though I am still disappointed the whole blame geography narrative never took hold, as I was curious to see where that would go. If people really wanted to see what fakes like joejoe are like if they were legit believers trying to do the troll the libs routine- the above explosion of posts is pretty much it.

His 600,000 were gonna die anyway number is flexible as well and can be raised as needed. Will be interesting to see if the USA#1 maintains a death rate several times Canada for instance what the narrative will be then about that discrepancy. I sure hope it is geography, I really want to see geography as the evil mastermind. Just imagine the Shyamalan film that could be made on that.
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07-10-2020 , 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Smudger2408
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600,000 Americans were always going to die from this horrible disease....
Please cite where you got that number of or admit it is a bullsh*t narrative you just made up, and that you will change ever upwards, as the US death toll goes up.

Just a few months ago 100,000 -200,000 deaths in the US was used by everyone as the terror bogeyman if things were not managed correctly because it was not believed the US would get there unless they really sh*t the bed.

Currently the US is 410 deaths per million people and your 600,000 would take that to 1810 deaths per million in the population. That is over 4 times the current death rate.
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07-10-2020 , 10:21 AM
The EU and the USA are very comparable in almost always.

The EU is comprised of member States, some very large, populace and very dense with high tourism rates (more density that comparable US big cities with more tourism) and some less dense and spread out and less wealthy.

The USA is comprised of member States that meet that same complexion.

Total population of EU ~445 MM.
Total population of USA ~330 MM.

The EU had covid hit EARLIER with devastating effect and thus if it just a given that once opening things will get as bad as they are in the US then it follows the EU is now worse or went through a worse rebound of Covid.

The facts show otherwise.





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07-10-2020 , 12:04 PM
Nice charts. But have you even thought about geography?

Also know what didn’t happen in Europe? Protests. Case closed.
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07-10-2020 , 12:04 PM
How is Smudger allowed to post again?
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07-10-2020 , 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by GTO2.0
Nice charts. But have you even thought about geography?

Also know what didn’t happen in Europe? Protests. Case closed.
We have had protests in the UK.
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