We're #!. Suck it Cuomo!!!

You understand how the numbers work much better than I do. But Texas now has a baseline of cases that is so large compared to the original outbreak that it is a foregone conclusion it is going to be horrific compared to the relatively mild first wave here. That is, unless, the virus has just totally disappeared. I have not seen any evidence of it disappearing, so I wonder where this confidence comes from.

Even if we maintained social distancing and mask wearing, without tracking and tracing the reopening in Texas was going to be really, really, really bad. But all of those precautions are out the window and there is little to no enforcement of protective measures which means we just rolled back the whole outbreak to February but instead of having 5 cases, no protective measures and exponential growth, Texas Now has 1200 cases, no protective measures and exponential growth.

In the last week of March the US had a little over 50,000 cases. Those came from a literal handful of cases in January. Now we are going to groundhog’s day this thing but instead of going from 10 active cases to 50,000 total cases in three months we are going from well over 20,000 active cases to ??? Total cases by the end of August?

There is no way this not a huge disaster that dwarfs the first wave if one of a number of things don’t happen:

1) Widespread testing and tracing. The federal government has refused to even consider the only legitimate current strategy. Plus it’s effectiveness when everything is wide open is questionable. We would need a hardcore lockdown to get to a point where we could effectively manage cases and spread.

2) Some sort of miracle treatment is discovered that greatly reduced the severity of cases. I pray that some drug is found to greatly impact this virus to save us from ourselves but this is hard work at the mercy of dumb luck. Counting on this would be crazy.

3) Getting a vaccine. Nobody of any knowledge or understanding expects a vaccine for a very long time at best.

4) Having the virus magically disappear. While theoretically possible the odds are so ridiculously long as to essentially be comical. Plus Trump defenders are all already acting like the virus has disappeared, even though massive parts of the US and the world are setting records daily.

It is unfortunate that the understanding and acceptance of science has become a partisan issue. But people in power have used this attack on science to keep their supporters in the dark and foaming at the mouth. The numbers are all out there and very clear. They have been from the very beginning. People are unstuck we’re way ahead of the curve on this and took actions long before the general population did. They also were absolutely right on the growth and spread of the virus and where it would go even when only 15 known cases existed in the US. Now we have a baseline over 20,000 instead of fifteen and all the hard fought lessons are being thrown to the side because #freedom and lol old people.

WELP

https://www.al.com/news/2020/05/mont...le-in-may.html

I assume the counterargument is that you will not see an explosive growth in new infections comparable to what you saw in New York in early March because "Texas is open" doesn't mean the same thing in late May as it did in early March. That is, behavioral changes like increased hand-washing, not going into work if you are sick, and avoiding super high risk venues like indoor arenas and movie theaters will persist even as the state reopens.

I'm sure there is some truth to this argument, but I don't know nearly enough about epidemiology to know how much behavioral changes will slow the spread. Like you, my guess is that this is happening too quickly.

In all fairness, after a few decades of unconscionable progress, georgia is simply doing what itbalways did best, leading the nation in backwardness.

Smudge what do you think about Georgia counting antibody tests in their testing numbers?

Seems like a lot of shadiness in testing methodologies across the board.

They did announce that hospilizations due to COVID in Georgia are at 919 currently, a 38% drop since the start of the month.

That is a good trend!

Rest of the country is opening following Georgia's lead.

Slow, steady, nothing crazy.

Let cities do their own thing. Let the great people of Georgia do their own thing.

Sky didn't fall.

Hospital system is not overwhelmed.

People can go to the dentist. They can get haircuts!

They can play golf! They can go outside!

They can eat at the Waffle House!

Looking like a total KEMP VICTORY!

KEMP 2024! Or, F TRUMP, HE NEEDS TO APOLOGIZE TO THE GREAT STATE OF GEORGIA AND BRIAN KEMP! KEMP 2020!

If Trump does not make a complete and utter apology to Brian Kemp over his nasty comments, I will be pissed.

Opened the state before the facist Faucci said?

Give me a break. This is overblown. KEMP WAS RIGHT!

FREEDOM, BABY! FREEDOM!

LONG LIVE THE GREAT STATE OF GEORGIA! Rest of you, just lemmings. Quote your numbers. Back to work, let's go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hahahahahahahahahaha

What do you think about Texas, where the governor has explicitly barred cities and counties from instituting stricter containment measures?

A hair stylist in Springfield, Missouri, exposed as many as 91 people to coronavirus after working at a salon for eight days while symptomatic, health officials said Friday

Give me a break. Local hospitals are in trouble because they were forced to lay off staff because they weren't allowed to do elective surgeries.

Georgia has ZERO ISSUES with hospital beds.

Staffing? Yeah. You made hospitals cut half their staff due to a threat that didn't impact their population.

This was the dumbest thing ever. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure someone is going to come on that they had COVID and call me insensitive. We destroyed the greatest economy in the history of the world for what? For something that is inevitable anyway without a vaccination. What a joke.

Goofy baller, how many of those 91 got sick?

How many did they make sick?

Your GPA is zero. zero.

Probably many thousands of people were exposed to coronavirus during that same timeframe shopping at WalMart or DollarTree.

Thank you lagight.

Any policy maker that thinks this is is a real thing that is going to mess up our hospital system needs to be tried for treason.

We did what we were told. We flattened the curve. TOTAL VICTORY! NO MORE NONSENSE! Long term, wash your hands alot.

lol, provide a citation that Montgomery's troubles are because of staff layoffs or shut up with your ignorance

LOL conservatives. 3k dead in a terrorist attack and they tell us we have to spend trillions to kill millions of people in the Middle East, 100k dead in a pandemic and they tell us we can't do anything

LOL what? Did you read the article? Health officials are trying to figure that out right now! After starting to level off, cases in Greene County, Missouri are having accelerating growth again!

We have over a million cases in this country and nearly a hundred thousand dead, how do you think that happened exactly? With sick hairstylists exposing 100 people to the virus and nothing bad happening afterwards? Oh wow, you are a SPECIAL kind of delusional lololol

Goofyballer, are we trying to flatten the curve, or eliminate the virus?

I signed on for flattening the curve. Done. No hospitals are overwhelmed today.

and, I have consistently said across threads that the two greatest lies in American Politics were, "Weapons of Mass Destruction" and "If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor".

I hadn't looked at this thread much so I wasn't aware of how hilarious this guy's posts are:

LOL. This isn't even about the economy - this is about Smudger's insistence that he should not have to experience any inconveniences in his life. Wearing a mask to help protect others, even if that makes it safer to restart the economy? Nope, **** you, don't tread on me.

First, new information is that it doesn't live on surfaces. Second, it is not airborne.
Wash your hands, don't touch your face.
BOOM.

I mean, if you touch your face alot, a mask will help!

Do what you wish. Georgia doesn't seem to have a problem.

Isn't that a technical term of art in epidemiology? Like, if I am standing next to you and I am infected with COVID-19 and I cough in your direction, you are at risk of catching it from me, no?

Do you think masks are literally worthless and do nothing? Why else would you oppose mask laws, particularly if you're so obsessed with safely re-opening the economy?

"Time to safely reopen the countr-"





Hahahahahahaha (love the diabeetus patient who can't divide 1.5 million into 300 million correctly)