Unfortunately, yes.

If there's a city or state anywhere that you hate, pray that the Democrat Party takes political control there.

It takes a monumental level of evil and/or fecklessness to turn the prosperous and beautiful San Francisco into a Third World dungheep. But I firmly believe that the Democrats are up to the task, given their "progress" so far.

/rant

Wife and I were jabbed in February w/Pfizer.

Wife not feeling up to par last week and test just came back positive.

"Not feeling up to par" is another success story. (she is feeling better this AM, thanks for asking).

The King is running out is a few minutes to get tested.

Sister took a turn for the worse overnight. Not go to the hospital bad but not great. Woke up in the middle of the night from asphyxiation, which was her serious side effect from the vaxx.
Probably everything will be fine but discouraging as she was about 7 days out from the 1st sign of symptoms so felt was like in the home stretch by now.

Make sure the wife keeps her rest up.

Hope all goes well

I'm glad to hear your wife is feeling better, hopefully, your test came back negative.

My mom is fully vaxxed and now has COVID. She went on a long weekend trip and she and a few other vaxxed friends picked it up from their 80 year old friend who was un-vaxxed. She seems to be doing fine, but what 80 year old decides not to get vaxxed and then run around on vacation?

I've got a handful of them in my family. One of them in their 90's.
They think it's all BS

What's the point of this link? Did you actually read it? Teachers are not state employees. Teachers are exempt from Newsome's vaccine edict for the same reason that WalMart cashiers are exempt: They aren't state employees!

Public school teachers are state employees yes. Private teachers no.

Cases are steadily rising in my county and Im sick of it., no pun intended. I really wish this whole "freedom" and "right to choose" thing would just be ended so we could imprison everyone who refused the shots. Or maybe we could lock them in a room and give them corona so they can see how they like it!

Australia just keeps ttig better. Can't properly upload vaccine data properly, so some people are being turned away. What a shithole joke of a place

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...egister-errors

Modern democracies operate on trust, without it they erode. Which is a big plus, because you can invest far less resources into forcefully maintaining stability. Authoritarian measures must be used very sparingly, and we have already seen some heavy uses during the pandemic. It can be tempting to want heavyhanded measures, because it can look like a shortcut to effective and quick solutions, but there is always a price to pay in public trust. And when public trust drops, epidemics spread more easily.

Some countries which invest far more heavily in the jackboot can operate more harshly, but it is not like it a bigger remedy for success as much as it is the only play they have. They don’t have trust, they have fear.

I don't think the countermeasures to Covid we've seen the US will hold up well as an example of "authoritarian measures." And, considering the nature of the problem we're trying to deal with, I think we have quite a bit of room before we get there.

This. I'm not going to go as far as, say, mandatory vaccinations, at least at the moment, but the willfully unvaccinated should have to absorb the majority of the inconveniences, hardships and costs associated with their decision.

Hospitals should deny treatment to those who can’t provide proof of vaccination and we can just reopen and call it a day

Authoritarian is in the eye of the beholder. If the public trusts you, they will be more accepting. If they don’t trust you, they’ll shout foul play. Regardless, any intervention in personal freedom represents the state using force, and unless there is a pretty broad level of consent, it will cost you goodwill and trust.

Pretty much the best predictor for vaccination rates (beyond stuff like availability and actual health infrastructure) is public trust in government.

Shouting about heavy-handed intervention won’t do much. If you want shots in arms, you need to inform. Yes, it can be infuriating to compete with disinformation and even mainstream politicians sowing doubt - but it’s pretty much the only way that will actually work.

SRM: Not good enough. I don't want these people in the supermarket, at the office, or next to me at the DMV. If they're truly committed to being antisocial *******s then society ought to help them do it right, and in the process some might get a chance to experience consequences that don't involve dying with a tube stuck down their throat.

Tame: We're well past that point with a large part of the country too radicalized or too simple to critically evaluate their sources of information, and they're already shouting foul play. You can't win their trust, rational arguments won't persuade them, and there is not much goodwill to be lost. They are dug in with a position that never made sense and will keep doubling down on an argument they lost long ago. This is not a "win the hearts and minds" public relations situation, it's a health crisis that calls for decisive and meaningful action.

If the Woke Crowd is consistent, they'll call you a racist for this take.

POC are among the biggest skeptics of the vaccines.

If the Woke Crowd is consistent, they will call you a racist.

POC are among those most skeptical of the vaccine.

NYC requiring vaccination for indoor dining, gym and other events

would think other big cities would follow suit

Yup.

Public trust in Gov't and the Experts is key to dealing with any issue like this.

From the very beginnings Trump decided to continually undermine that trust when he felt it went against his political interests. The right media picked that up and continues now, to the most dishonest extents possible, to reflexively counter each and every statement by experts or positions that the Biden govt puts forth simply to erode trust.

There seems to be not one iota of 'Public Good' considerations in what they do. That truly seems to be dead.

I only tend to watch Chris Wallace on Sunday mornings on Fox and the Five for entertainment value. But with the Holiday I decided to see if right wing media is in fact doing that. I was shocked to see the Fox & Friends crew bring up the fact they were all vaccinated and please go get vaccinated. As well on the website they have a vaccine finder. The Five keeps saying get the vaccine .

Their outrage seems to be more from the fact all the vaccinated folks now need to wear masks to protect the unvaccinated.

Also I am curious when Don Lemon says unless your vaccinated you need to be turned away at all businesses I wonder if he would support that for voting also

Conservatives trying to limit who gets to vote--aka getting cancelled way before it was cool

Totally bro! I would hate to live in a Democrat city like San Francisco or Portland or New York! I love living in these TRUE AMERICAN towns like the dozens of completely hollowed out Rust Belt towns where every 3rd person is a fentanyl addict scrounging by on subsistence living! My favorite GOP area is Appalachia. There's no poverty or crime there!

(of course, the health of any city is dependent on many, many factors about which a politician has zero control, but that's no fun so nevermind)


If I remember correctly, you are one of the people with whom I briefly discussed this in NVG. Your post here is clearly sarcastic, but I am a genuine advocate for a vaccine mandate; I think that most of what gets called "freedom" is often a dogwhistle for people to justify activities or policies that hurt the public health and public good; and I am in general a big fan of many measures that often get derisively called "authoritarian". I'd be happy to argue these points ITT.

Decision to mix vaccines could cause travel difficulties for millions of Canadians

Canada’s move to mix COVID-19 vaccines as part of a strategy to quickly immunize as much of the population as possible could present travel challenges to millions of people who received different doses.

While research has shown that mixing a viral vector vaccine, such as AstraZeneca, followed by an mRNA vaccine, such as Pfizer, produces a significant immune response, some countries, including many in the European Union, don’t recognize certain vaccines and vaccine combinations.

That means that those with mixed doses may not be considered fully vaccinated and could require additional COVID-19 safety measures such as testing and quarantining. Cruise lines can also deny boarding to passengers...

Cases among children have risen 5-fold in Montgomery County here in TX last month.

From an article:

" "I have great concerns about it,” said Dr. Robert Dickson, Montgomery County Hospital District director.

Dickson said COVID cases among children there rose by five times from June to July after five months of decreasing cases, although only a small percentage have been seriously ill.

"A small percentage does not mean a small percentage if that’s your loved one," Dickson said. "If that’s your child.” "

https://www.khou.com/article/news/ed...7-278b01416771

Pretty sure this is the real 2nd wave.