You like to claim not to be 'right' but you always default to right BOT like disingenuous talking points and at this point i am not sure if you do it mischievous (just to poke the lefties) or out of ignorance.

And i don't say ignorance in the pejorative sense. I am curious if you just do not know better as perhaps you are consuming only one type of news (right leaning).

Do you understand that what you say above is specious whataboutism?

While no one would disagree that media falls across the spectrum of left to right bias and that may filter what they choose to focus upon that in no way approximates or is comparable to what we have going on, on the right media now.

Fox and those further right are creating entire false narratives, what could only be called soviet style propaganda with regards to the 2020 election and the ongoing Vaccination efforts.

Both of these efforts undermine the very stability of the USA and its democracy.

This is not an example of choosing which truths to over report and which ones to under report.

I do not think, at any point in history, we have had any Media so willing to subvert themselves to an ideology with reporting that has no correlation to fact or truth solely because it gets them an audience base.

Do you even see what I am saying above? OR when you read that do you think 'that can't be true' because based on the sources you read this is an issue on both sides?

I am legit curious, so i hope you answer.

I would agree with the bolded a 100%

There are elements of Fox that are real news. I would give Chris Wallace on fox as for me the best of the best.

I get that Hannity, Ingram and Tucker may be the worst. Though I consider Maddow, Cuomo and Lemond bad on the left.

All I need to point to is the border. I can only imagine if what is going on now under a Trump admin what CNN & MSNBC would be focusing on

Just in case you were following this at all...


Huge study supporting ivermectin as Covid treatment withdrawn over ethical concerns

I heard Relief Factor has promising results ( Note this is a joke)

Good data, credit to BFI Covid thread that i'll repost here where it will not get all the 'vaccines don't work', denialism.

Vaccination with BNT162b2 reduces transmission of SARS-CoV-2 to household contacts in Israel

The guy who posted that argued that it was bad data for vaccines in OOT.

I still have no idea why both you guys try to seriously debate the derps there instead of enjoying their cloudscreaming for entertainment value. If every death moving forward was an unvaccinated individual then that would mean vaccines do not work or something, because vitamin D or an out of context chart from Yemen. Why debate that?

The virus will do the unvaxxed culling as it "vaccinates" a ton of derps with delta. Just the way it will be, though the US will be pretty ugly in the near future due to the politicization of vaccines to cause 10-20% more of the population to not be vaccinated compared to Canada in the end. May be bigger than 20% difference, which is actually crazy from a macro perspective. Maybe the Derps will start a bring back Polio movement in the future.

Derps aside, I believe it is still the case that it is the black community that has the greatest concerns about the safety and/or efficacy of the vaccines.

I enjoy debating the derps.

**** my life.

Fair enough on that. Just remember that in the end they are essentially pets so never take anything they say personally or seriously. If you ever get death threats or what made me laugh the most - an extortion threat - just toss the specific derps on ignore and move onto the next ones.

That is a much different, and valid issue, but you will not see that discussed much in derp threads here which are all 40+ white dudes, including the ones pretending to be a 21 year old despite their account here being created in 2005. Frankly, very few posters here (including myself) are qualified to really discuss that issue.

FYP, because you get to spend time doing something you enjoy, and it's basically free!

+1

Laggy are you vaccinated?

Chez are you experiencing any symptoms due to your passing exposure?

(of course neither have to answer or are expected to if they prefer to keep that private. My question comes out of earnest hope you are (all who post here are) doing well)

I am not yet(?) vaccinated. Thanks for asking.

I'm fine txs

The late 20's chap who got it was quite ill (1 jab 2 weeks before) but nowhere near hospitalisation. He has mostly recovered now. His partner ~same age (1 jab at same time) is now quite ill - symptoms started a few days ago.

Me and my friend in our 50s seem to have got away with it. Both double jabbed and have had no symptoms. Dont know if we were protected by vax or just lucky. It was two days before he had symptoms so maybe he wasn't very infectious at that point.

It's also just about possible we are still incubating. Seems very unlikely now.

You kids, these days!

(I'm 63.)

Get vaccinated

Glad to hear it chez and yes laggy, go get vaccinated. Nothing in the bible would be against you doing so. Embrace the gift your God has sent you to help deal with this plague.

The unvaccinated will all get covid before this years is out as people are returning to normal life allowing the virus to proliferate like wild fire and the unvaccinated are acting just like the see the vaccinated do, as if they had the same protections.

You certainly must see that at age 63 the risk of Covid is greater than any perceived risk of the vaccine, at this point. I have no issue with younger people debating that equation but the older you get the less debate there is.

Why wouldn’t you, especially if you are 63?

Unless you are suicidal or are taking immunosuppressing drugs I would highly recommend getting vaccinated.

The delta variant of Covid has been reported to have 1,000x the viral load of the alpha variant.

And while I disagree with Cuepee that 100% of non-vaccinated people will get Covid (we would hit herd immunity well before that) it is almost entirely non-vaccinated people right now that are getting severe cases of Covid.

And it is not just death that you have to worry about. There is something called Long Covid which nobody is talking about (well I am) that means you could have severe symptoms for one year or longer. This includes lethargy, illness, loss of taste and smell, etc.

I know from your past posts that you have concerns for other people. This could be the most important reason then to get vaccinated. You could save somebody else's life.

Whatever your decision I wish you well.

Pretty sure he got vaccinated months ago.

I think covid is more likely to slip into the background like a mild flu or a bad cold, than to completely go away.

And like a cold, everyone eventually gets it. I don't see herd immunity forming to prevent that aspect.

But we shall see.

https://thehill.com/changing-america...t-everyone-who this guy agrees

And isn't the herd immunity for Delta is expected to be around 85-100%

lagtight is VERY anti-Pharm.