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07-11-2020 , 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
Haha.

This is one of the worst possible and most stupid arguments you see the most desperate and stupid Trumpers make.
I hope you're not labelling me a Trumper. I dislike him more than anyone else, and have since he was a spoiled Richie-Rich casino/hotel mogul.

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- Ignore the pedophile up the street, as more kids die of dog attacks than pedophiles
- ignore the dog attacks because more kids die of family abuse
- ignore the family abuse as more kids die from accidents
- and so and so on

With only the #1 cause of death being the only thing worthy of consideration because if anything below #1 you just point up to #1.
I didn't point to the #1 cause of death among children. I showed that travelling to school is way more unsafe than being at school and exposed to Covid (for kids). Actually, the number of kids that die from heat stroke locked in a vehicle falls right within the numbers of Covid deaths (52 last year). So the cars don't even have to be in motion for the numbers to fall within the same parameters.

My original post was more against people like Pelosi and the "Won't someone please think of the children!" crowd. There should be no hand-wringing at this point over whether or not to open schools in the fall. Barring a catastrophe where the virus mutates and becomes way more aggressive, opening schools in the fall should be a no-brainer, not another political dividing issue between Blustery Orange Man and Democrats trying to score points. BTW I feel Trump's threats to cut funding are not only wrong but fatuous, but... I mean were people expecting anything different?

Everyone wear masks in school. Eliminate Phys-Ed this year. Spread desks out if possible. Eat lunches at your homeroom seat and not in a cafeteria. There are a myriad of ways to upgrade safety for everyone. The advantages of attending a physical school far outweigh virtual learning, especially for single-parent households.

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Congrats, you are painfully callous and sadly stupid having written that.
You have a chance to be better than the others on here. Instead of name-calling and bringing up strange analogies, show me why I'm incorrect. Saying I'm stupid isn't helping any kind of discourse. I'm very new at exploring political issues; my goal is to learn as much as possible.
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07-12-2020 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Proffett
I hope you're not labelling me a Trumper. I dislike him more than anyone else, and have since he was a spoiled Richie-Rich casino/hotel mogul.



I didn't point to the #1 cause of death among children. I showed that travelling to school is way more unsafe than being at school and exposed to Covid (for kids). Actually, the number of kids that die from heat stroke locked in a vehicle falls right within the numbers of Covid deaths (52 last year). So the cars don't even have to be in motion for the numbers to fall within the same parameters.

My original post was more against people like Pelosi and the "Won't someone please think of the children!" crowd. There should be no hand-wringing at this point over whether or not to open schools in the fall. Barring a catastrophe where the virus mutates and becomes way more aggressive, opening schools in the fall should be a no-brainer, not another political dividing issue between Blustery Orange Man and Democrats trying to score points. BTW I feel Trump's threats to cut funding are not only wrong but fatuous, but... I mean were people expecting anything different?

Everyone wear masks in school. Eliminate Phys-Ed this year. Spread desks out if possible. Eat lunches at your homeroom seat and not in a cafeteria. There are a myriad of ways to upgrade safety for everyone. The advantages of attending a physical school far outweigh virtual learning, especially for single-parent households.



You have a chance to be better than the others on here. Instead of name-calling and bringing up strange analogies, show me why I'm incorrect. Saying I'm stupid isn't helping any kind of discourse. I'm very new at exploring political issues; my goal is to learn as much as possible.
Kids who spend too much time in a hot car without dying don't go on to have lifelong disabilities. Kids who spend too much time in a hot car without dying don't go on to subsequently kill their parents. This post is just a steaming pile of ignorance. The kids who will die will only be a fraction of the damage done.
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07-12-2020 , 02:36 AM
.2 percent means 600,000 will die.

Should have stuck with that, but the administraion kept saying only 100,000 will died.

It has always been, .02 percent.
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07-12-2020 , 04:18 AM
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Israel had previously been held up as an example of how to handle the pandemic, imposing a sweeping lockdown in March after an outbreak among tourists visiting the Palestinian city of Bethlehem.

At its peak, residents were barred from going beyond 100 metres from their homes unless for essential journeys such as food shopping or a pharmacy visit.

While Sadetzki praised initial steps, she argued that the way schools were opened from mid-May had been a misstep. Dozens of schools were subsequently closed and thousands of pupils and teachers ordered to self-isolate as infections spread.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...onavirus-cases
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07-12-2020 , 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Kelhus100
I am not Smudger. I definitely think Trump and right wing have extremely horrible political messaging, and it is definitely costing lives. But the political narrative that the media (and this thread) is pumping out just doesn't match the data; unless you take a giant deductive leap that overwhelmingly Democratic voters are taking their marching orders from President Trump, Fox News and right wing governors, which doesn't seem plausible at all.
ok
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07-12-2020 , 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Kelhus100
I am not that familiar with the etiology of dyslexia. What symptoms would I be looking for to determine likelihood of being a tad dyslexic?
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Writing "hand waive" 3 times - two of them in the space of about half an hour, the second after being corrected and acknowledging it, and the third a week or so later is a pretty massive tell.

I've also corrected you on something before (ferment/foment), you acknowledged it, and made the same mistake literally half an hour later.

I'm not even trolling at this point, I'm just curious. You obviously acknowledge the corrections, but you keep making the same mistakes.
I answered your question. Any danger you might answer mine?
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07-12-2020 , 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl




I hope they get better

But also





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you don't come back from that
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07-12-2020 , 09:29 AM
I'm just absolutely crushed by this. It's going to get worse, for months.

It didn't have to be this way.
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07-12-2020 , 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Smudger2408
AND STOP WITH YOUR GRAPHS!

The people testing positive are people that don't even need to be tested. The young people have no problems with this.
Oh gee whiz, I feel so much better now. Now I can tell my 25 year old friend with no pre existing conditions that she doesn't need to worry about testing positive. She didn't even need to get tested in the first place!

Once I'm able to visit her grave I'll make sure to yell that to her really loud so she can hear me from 6 feet under.

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Originally Posted by WaitingOnAP
I guess I've just known and seen too many people die from this. I think if you guys saw that you'd feel the same.
LOL. Add me to the list of people who couldn't give one single **** about the deaths of covid deniers
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07-12-2020 , 10:37 AM
I also will not shed a single tear for those who put others in harms way by being unrelenting denying pieces of **** dying and will just go with ‘gee, that’s too bad’

I will feel terrible for those they infected on the way out the door though
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07-12-2020 , 10:49 AM
So new cases in Georgia were hovering at 1k daily the day smudge puts up the OP

Now 4k daily

Brian Kemp 2024
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07-12-2020 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Kelhus100
Some democratic politicians have made bad choices, especially early in the disease, but I am not arguing democratic counties getting hit hard is because of their leadership.

I am arguing the political narrative going on in this thread that Covid is sweeping through Trumpland because trumpkin’s bad politics (and therefore we shouldn’t feel sorry for people dying) just doesn’t seem to map reality very well.
Ya but you are trying to split hairs in very disingenuous ways.

Think of it as sparks and tinder.

There is tinder or material that would burn in every area in every State but if you prevent the sparks the tinder will not burn

The tinder is the nursing homes, the factories (like food processing plants, etc), the grocery stores, and the other front line workers.

If you can prevent the sparks from making contact things are ok and areas that are not TrumpsterVille do that magnitudes better than TrumpsterVille does.

OK so in and around TrumpsterVille there are all sorts of sparks walking around without masks, many younger and asymptomatic. So much so that it becomes increasingly impossible for those who work in the tinder area to not have some forms of contact them.

Numerous sparks now have spread into the tinder areas and forest fires follow that disproportionately impact POC who tend to be Dems.

You cannot look at the 'effect' and disconnect the major factor of 'causation'. It is clear now that societies that refuse to wear masks will continue to have these forest fires spark up and grow beyond their ability to control.
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07-12-2020 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
So new cases in Georgia were hovering at 1k daily the day smudge puts up the OP

Now 4k daily

Brian Kemp 2024
15K reported in Florida, on a ****ing Sunday.

That number is MINDBOGGLING and Disney thought "Yep, perfect time to open."

We as a country, are too stupid for this world.
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07-12-2020 , 02:37 PM
Apparently that is New Jersey's fault due to geography. Only reason why Florida has 30x the cases (per capita) compared to the province of Ontario in Canada. Once they staff up it will all be fine.
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07-12-2020 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
I answered your question. Any danger you might answer mine?
I think at some level spelling is a motor skill, and once one's brain has been hardwired to spell a word incorrectly, or use the wrong word, it is hard to change course. I don't think misspelling the same 5 words over and over, even after being corrected, is indicative of dyslexia, but maybe it is? I don't know that much about dyslexia.
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07-12-2020 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelhus100
I think at some level spelling is a motor skill, and once one's brain has been hardwired to spell a word incorrectly, or use the wrong word, it is hard to change course. I don't think misspelling the same 5 words over and over, even after being corrected, is indicative of dyslexia, but maybe it is? I don't know that much about dyslexia.
You're probably right, it's more just a general indicator of intelligence.
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07-12-2020 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
15K reported in Florida, on a ****ing Sunday.

That number is MINDBOGGLING and Disney thought "Yep, perfect time to open."

We as a country, are too stupid for this world.
We aren't too stupid. We are too divided and our information sources are poor quality and contradictory.

This system is actually very intentionally set up this way, and it is how the elites control us and keep us in line for the most part. However, this also introduces fragility into the system, and our inability to respond to this crisis is a manifestation of this.

I still think this crisis would be handled better (at least in the US) if control was more local, due to our division and lack of cohesion at the national level.
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07-12-2020 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelhus100
We aren't too stupid. We are too divided and our information sources are poor quality and contradictory.
lol, shocking that Kel found a way to come around to blame reopening too early on *checks notes* The Lamestream Media
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07-12-2020 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelhus100
We aren't too stupid. We are too divided and our information sources are poor quality and contradictory.

This system is actually very intentionally set up this way, and it is how the elites control us and keep us in line for the most part. However, this also introduces fragility into the system, and our inability to respond to this crisis is a manifestation of this.

I still think this crisis would be handled better (at least in the US) if control was more local, due to our division and lack of cohesion at the national level.
We have the greatest informational infrastructure in the history of the world. The correct information is out there for anybody with the effort to seek it out (and even the effort isn't too difficult.) So we are either too ****ing stupid, or too ****ing lazy. You pick.

You think ****ing Disney doesn't have the correct information on what is really happening? You think they don't know the numbers because of poor quality and contradictory information? Or do they know exactly what is happening and said "**** it, we need to line our pockets and feed the machine."
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07-12-2020 , 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Kids who spend too much time in a hot car without dying don't go on to have lifelong disabilities. Kids who spend too much time in a hot car without dying don't go on to subsequently kill their parents. This post is just a steaming pile of ignorance. The kids who will die will only be a fraction of the damage done.
BUT at least we found out he hates Donald Trump! Toss him in the bin with all the other DTHers who accidentally defend everything Trump does and stands for.

Also TWITTER implementation in this forum has apparently caught COVID-19.
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07-12-2020 , 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelhus100
We aren't too stupid. We are too divided and our information sources are poor quality and contradictory.

This system is actually very intentionally set up this way, and it is how the elites control us and keep us in line for the most part. However, this also introduces fragility into the system, and our inability to respond to this crisis is a manifestation of this.

I still think this crisis would be handled better (at least in the US) if control was more local, due to our division and lack of cohesion at the national level.
I guess there just aren't any elites exerting their control in South Korea, or Canada, or New Zealand, or Germany, or basically any other country that has tried to control the virus.
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07-12-2020 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by WaitingOnAP
I'm just absolutely crushed by this. It's going to get worse, for months.

It didn't have to be this way.
No it did not. Not even a little bit. It was pretty clear early on what steps needed to be taken. As a country we have people using all their might to push back and fight against doing the right thing.

Imagine 100s of thousands of Americans dead all because a bunch of stooges had to politicize a ****ing deadly pandemic.

Only in America and Brazil did this nonsense happen. It is why the US and Brazil are the uncontested Gold and Silver Medalists of Covid-19.

What’s even worse there is so much more that can and needs to be done but all of it is being blocked because of the one-sided politicization of the virus.

Hundreds of thousands dying for no reason and nobody will be reprimanded, let alone punished for their active participation.

To top it off he are trying to accelerate the death rate with nonsensical political agenda like “all kids need to go back to school now because of reasons”.
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07-12-2020 , 04:11 PM
I think we’ve definitely learned through this that we as a country are to arrogant and petulant to be trusted with basic freedoms

Imagine 4 years ago finding out Europe was going to ban US from coming in. What an absurd notion

The fact that we can’t even agree the only reason we’re in this mess is because people are too stupid or selfish to be told to think about others before you go out is pretty telling. Our case numbers are hyperbolic and our president can’t tell the truth if his ****ing life depended on it and his supporters still insist listening to medical experts means giving up our freedoms our confederate heroes fought and died for

WAAF
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07-12-2020 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by WaitingOnAP
I'm just absolutely crushed by this. It's going to get worse, for months.

It didn't have to be this way.
honestly, proly woulda been worse with the Dems in charge. The Repubs would actively be trying to kill people and drive the numbers up if Hillary was president. Can you imagine the amount of conspiracy theory getting promoted?
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07-12-2020 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
I think we’ve definitely learned through this that we as a country are to arrogant and petulant to be trusted with basic freedoms

Imagine 4 years ago finding out Europe was going to ban US from coming in. What an absurd notion

The fact that we can’t even agree the only reason we’re in this mess is because people are too stupid or selfish to be told to think about others before you go out is pretty telling. Our case numbers are hyperbolic and our president can’t tell the truth if his ****ing life depended on it and his supporters still insist listening to medical experts means giving up our freedoms our confederate heroes fought and died for

WAAF
Not to put too fine a point on it, but 60 million people in your country thought it would be a good idea to have Donald Trump as president.
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