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Oh ya--I find the "freethinker" takes that are actually just read straight off of some other source that everyone's passing around to be far more riveting and original.

No free thinkers.
Everyone is a hypocrite.
Any opinion to the right of.....idk who comes from some conservative think tank probably the Cato institute.

Just follow those simple steps. Nothing new under the sun for ww.

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02-19-2023 , 12:25 AM

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the jbs's magazine has interviews with loads of the top anti-vax docs/people. They sponsor cpac. Nearly every prominent conservative writer today publishes thru companies with deep ties etc. Hell, considering trump's age when they were super prominent and his dad being best buds with a founder--I don't think it's too tough to see the connections and overlaps in philosophy. Or we're just playing mad libs.

That take^ up there was just speculating on another potential reason why. Personally I don't think it's a big stretch to include the pharma ceos in the info games--with ~7x payouts potentially in play. Or maybe there are lots of super lefty ceos in that sector

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02-19-2023 , 12:26 AM

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Wetwork just plugs everything into a algorithm for those posts.

Full disclosure: So do I. (obv not the same algorithm as wetwork)

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02-19-2023 , 12:28 AM

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You're off by like 15yrs and I'm not 80 grandpa

Not my first bad read, and most assuredly not my last.

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02-19-2023 , 12:39 AM

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The craziest thing about the anti-vaxx conspiracy is how they're killing off their own customers.... But they don't care.

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02-19-2023 , 12:48 AM

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The craziest thing about the anti-vaxx conspiracy is how they're killing off their own customers.... But they don't care.

Dust bunnies. There will still be at least 8B people running around on this ball for the rest of our lives.

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02-19-2023 , 01:00 AM

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I had never heard of JBS before. So I looked at the website... whelp! Too much red, white, and blue and a conspicuously overly simple vibe about it like you might see in a religious hand out pamphlet that is way too sure of itself.

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02-19-2023 , 01:07 AM

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Kinda like a trump rally. And that's no accident

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02-19-2023 , 10:20 PM

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Kinda like a trump rally. And that's no accident

I didnt know this group other that I heard its name a couple times but thats it. This welch guy who founded it is terrible though and cant be compared to trumo imo.

Interesting article here:

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...s-of-trumpism/

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02-20-2023 , 10:38 AM

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trump's dad was buddies with welch

The connections are all over the place and pretty obvious dude.

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02-20-2023 , 11:04 PM

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ok thanks. I didn't know that.

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02-21-2023 , 07:52 PM

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there are studies out now that we didn't move nearly as much as we used to due to lockdowns and covid.

here is my theory: the excess death rates now are a consequence of not caring about health in general and not moving 2nd everything got shut down, we only cared about covid.

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02-21-2023 , 08:40 PM

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That theory doesn't really seem too reasonable fwiw.

Germany looking particularly bad though.

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02-24-2023 , 02:07 AM

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Do you remember the 9/11 thread like 10-12 years ago? That had so many different theories that they were arguing with each other.

I remember that thread. There actually weren't many conspiracy theories put forth in that thread. There was the official criminal conspiracy that the government said was done by these criminals in this manner. Then you had a lot of people arguing that that official conspiracy theory couldn't be true. It was more those who promoted the official conspiracy vs. skeptics, but the skeptics weren't saying it was like Dick Cheney lacing the towers with thermite. The skeptics weren't so much putting forth affirmative theories of who did it.

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02-24-2023 , 08:00 AM

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I remember that thread. There actually weren't many conspiracy theories put forth in that thread. There was the official criminal conspiracy that the government said was done by these criminals in this manner. Then you had a lot of people arguing that that official conspiracy theory couldn't be true. It was more those who promoted the official conspiracy vs. skeptics, but the skeptics weren't saying it was like Dick Cheney lacing the towers with thermite. The skeptics weren't so much putting forth affirmative theories of who did it.

Many CTists have learned the hard way that it is better to leave their claims in the realm of the unfalsifiable.

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02-24-2023 , 09:13 AM

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Many CTists have learned the hard way that it is better to leave their claims in the realm of the unfalsifiable.

There is this idea that people have that if a conspiracy theorist isn't able to name names and say exactly how something is done, then one must believe whatever the official story is.

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02-24-2023 , 09:36 AM

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There is this idea that people have that if a conspiracy theorist isn't able to name names and say exactly how something is done, then one must believe whatever the official story is.

This may be true with some people you speak with but it seems to be a straw man you guys try to apply to anyone critical of your theories. Not buying a theory critical of the US doesn't mean you're simping for the empire. No story has to be believed without sufficient proof. It's completely okay to say you don't know what happened. You don't need to take a side in every case.

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02-24-2023 , 09:42 AM

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There is this idea that people have that if a conspiracy theorist isn't able to name names and say exactly how something is done, then one must believe whatever the official story is.

That isn't the problem. The problem is that many CTists want to flip the burden of proof with respect to extraordinary claims, and then use an inability to conclusively and affirmatively disprove extraordinary claims as evidence of the plausibility of the CT.

For example, I can't affirmatively disprove the allegation that Democratic elites that are drinking the blood of children to get their daily adrenochrome fix. But that isn't evidence of the theory's plausibility.

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02-24-2023 , 09:44 AM

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Ok thanks I'll keep that in mind going forward.

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02-24-2023 , 09:47 AM

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I doubt what you're claiming actually happens. I've come across a lot of conspiracy theories but I've never heard that sort of argumentation before.

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02-24-2023 , 10:17 AM

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There is this idea that people have that if a conspiracy theorist isn't able to name names and say exactly how something is done, then one must believe whatever the official story is.

Like when people claim they know someone is alive despite the govt, family members and coroners office examining the body agreeing he is dead?

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02-24-2023 , 10:32 AM

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Like when people claim they know someone is alive despite the govt, family members and coroners office examining the body agreeing he is dead?

No not like that, although it's not a horrible example since the official story there is laughable.

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02-24-2023 , 11:09 AM

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There is this idea that people have that if a conspiracy theorist isn't able to name names and say exactly how something is done, then one must believe whatever the official story is.

Can you even in broad terms describe the conspiracy and how it works?