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06-19-2020 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
Nice job posting a picture where everyone is wearing masks to try and make your dumb point.

He asked if anywhere else wearing masks was political. Not what does it look like when the people who don’t make mask wearing political go outside.
It's really hard to overstate what an idiotic response that was.

"Does any other country make wearing masks into a political issue?"
"BUT LIBS DO IT TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THE MEDIA IS TOO WOOOOOKEEEEEEE"

lol strong counterargument
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06-19-2020 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by neverbeclever
Thats just an/your assumption, not a fact. Please provide scientific proof of this.

To further prove your vision is skewed: Belgium has had the most stringest and earliest full lockdown, yet the highest death/1m in the world.
South Korea easily had the most stringent and earliest lockdown.

They coupled it with development of testing capacity very quickly and have been able to see where outbreaks happen and stop them cold.

They can also do contact tracing effectively.

They have had 280 deaths total in South Korea.

Whatever they did in Belgium (and I literally have no idea what they did in Belgium) was either too late or it sucked.

The US and South Korea basically found out about their first Covid case at the same time (same date). South Korea decided they wanted to do the best they could to stop it in its tracks. The US by comparison has a President who said that we would "go from 15 cases to 5 cases then to none. Like a miracle" and at the same time has repeatedly said that he takes "no responsibility whatsoever" for the outcome.

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Point is: Lets just (for laughs) assume one of u hippies run a business, which im sure u guys are not, and now have to close because of assumptions made by who knows who.

Anyway, this co called killer virus is now responsible of 0,0366‬% deaths overall...of which 99% had underlying deceases and/or were 75y or older.

Ps.
usa has the exact death/1m as Holland...so all that bs from this Monterrey guy Trump killed 100k people is not even worth reading.
At least you read.

Apparently our president avoids written briefs like the plague.

Maybe there's a connection there...
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06-19-2020 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
OK: #1 https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2.../10/2009637117

#2 A lie.

#3 USA is going to be well past Holland in a few weeks.
#1
However, assessing the effectiveness of those intervention practices hinges on the understanding of virus transmission, which remains uncertain. Here we show that airborne transmission is highly virulent and represents the dominant route to spread the disease. By analyzing the trend and mitigation measures in Wuhan, China, Italy, and New York City, from January 23 to May 9, 2020, we illustrate that the impacts of mitigation measures are discernable from the trends of the pandemic. Our analysis reveals that the difference with and without mandated face covering represents the determinant in shaping the pandemic trends in the three epicenters. This protective measure alone significantly reduced the number of infections, that is, by over 78,000 in Italy from April 6 to May 9 and over 66,000 in New York City from April 17 to May 9. Other mitigation measures, such as social distancing implemented in the United States, are insufficient by themselves in protecting the public

RESEARCH ARTICLE
anyway...

#1a
here u have it

#1b
Social distancing has no (proven) effect

#2
Lol...how is that?

#3
Could very well be...please do explain how thats Trumps fault!?
I mean...everybody and his sister is wearing masks...and distancing has no ''proven'' effect (according to your own ''scientific'' research/proof source.
Besides all that...the myth that it can spread by hand is already be debunked.
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06-19-2020 , 04:36 PM
So the conservative mindset is--resist change, watch every penny like a hawk, don't engage in any of that 'risky' librul behavior, careful careful etc etc. But when there's a deadly disease going around and there are some potential questions say f it and let it all hang out and go wild lol Makes sense.
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06-19-2020 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by neverbeclever
Social distancing has no (proven) effect
Window licking also proven safe, nothing for you to worry about.
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06-19-2020 , 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Window licking also proven safe, nothing for you to worry about.
Let me go out on a limb here...u r not a business owner!?
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06-19-2020 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by neverbeclever
Let me go out on a limb here...u r not a business owner!?
Irrelevant, and just more projection. Normal people don't choose what science to believe or disbelieve based on what benefits them personally or financially. Only consummate morons like you and your Trumpet brethren engage in science denial and fact denial because it's convenient to their interests (see also, for example - climate change).
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06-19-2020 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by neverbeclever
Let me go out on a limb here...u r not a business owner!?
Are business owners good or bad? Kind of hard to keep track of your "thought" process.

Anyway, what age does a human no longer count when they die to Covid? Just curious on the details of your eugenics beliefs. Come on - don't be afraid - pick an age. Be inspired by the other poster who proudly blamed China for the upcoming Trump rally if you need. Thanks!

All the best.
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06-19-2020 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
We have only had almost seven months to do something about it.

If the United States can’t come up with a way to create the proper number of tests for a deadly pandemic in seven months, we might as well just turn the lights off.
For the record, I'm on board with turning the lights off.

Dissolve the Union, and start over.

The point of no return has been reached, in my humble opinion.
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06-19-2020 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Irrelevant, and just more projection. Normal people don't choose what science to believe or disbelieve based on what benefits them personally or financially. Only consummate morons like you and your Trumpet brethren engage in science denial and fact denial because it's convenient to their interests (see also, for example - climate change).
So ok...let just suppose ok?...if u were a business owner...i know its far fetched...im asking a lot here i know...but at least try!
U own a store...all goes south...for 0,0336% deaths by 80+ with underlying.
U would accept that as taking one for the team huh?
Even if it meant u had to close for good!?
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06-19-2020 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by neverbeclever
So ok...let just suppose ok?...if u were a business owner...i know its far fetched...im asking a lot here i know...but at least try!
U own a store...all goes south...for 0,0336% deaths by 80+ with underlying.
U would accept that as taking one for the team huh?
Even if it meant u had to close for good!?
I would listen to what scientists say, not ignorant dipshits on the internet like you pulling numbers out of your ass.

Not that it's relevant, but I am a business owner. Not that my business is affected by the lockdown, and not that it's difficult, but I know a lot more about owning a business than you do.
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06-19-2020 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by neverbeclever
So ok...let just suppose ok?...if u were a business owner...i know its far fetched...im asking a lot here i know...but at least try!
U own a store...all goes south...for 0,0336% deaths by 80+ with underlying.
U would accept that as taking one for the team huh?
Even if it meant u had to close for good!?
So, does that mean you are choosing 80 as the age where a death by Covid is meaningless? Still curious to hear what your line is between a death that counts and a death that does not count. Stop being so coy, embrace your eugenic beliefs loud and proud already. The poster who said the Trump rally will be China's fault did - you can as well. At what age is it a person's responsibility to "take one for the team" as you say. Thanks!

All the best.
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06-19-2020 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Are business owners good or bad?

All the best.
Please stop posting...
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06-19-2020 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
I would listen to what scientists say, not ignorant dipshits on the internet like you pulling numbers out of your ass.

Not that it's relevant, but I am a business owner. Not that my business is affected by the lockdown, and not that it's difficult, but I know a lot more about owning a business than you do.
Which numbers would that be?
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06-19-2020 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by neverbeclever
Which numbers would that be?
Every statistic you've posted is unsourced and disagrees with other sources, so it's horseshit until you prove otherwise. Also, statements like "social distancing has no proven effect" is either a deliberate lie or the rantings of a deranged lunatic.
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06-19-2020 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Every statistic you've posted is unsourced and disagrees with other sources, so it's horseshit until you prove otherwise. Also, statements like "social distancing has no proven effect" is either a deliberate lie or the rantings of a deranged lunatic.
https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2.../10/2009637117

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
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06-19-2020 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by neverbeclever
Please stop posting...
I realize my questions frustrate you, but that is because you have yet to properly own your beliefs, and I am here trying to help you do that as I did with that other fine fellow. So, was it 80 years old that you decided was the number when a person who dies from Covid no longer counts due to your eugenics beliefs? What number is it - and why are you so reluctant to stand behind your clear belief structures.

All the best.
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06-19-2020 , 07:27 PM
That's not how you source statistics. When you make a post with a statistic in it, you link it there. Then people might take you a bit more seriously. As it is, you come off as the shitmunching ****tard that you are, so nobody in their right mind is going to pay any attention to your deluded ramblings.
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06-19-2020 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
That's not how you source statistics. When you make a post with a statistic in it, you link it there. Then people might take you a bit more seriously. As it is, you come off as the shitmunching ****tard that you are, so nobody in their right mind is going to pay any attention to your deluded ramblings.
336/1m
336/1m*100=?,?????%
reference: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

WTF are u talking about?
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06-19-2020 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by neverbeclever
336/1m
336/1m*100=?,?????%
reference: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

WTF are u talking about?
I have no idea wtf you are talking about. Cite the post you are referring to, cite the statistic, cite the source, and explain the conclusion you want me to draw from that statistic, then I might take a couple of minutes to pay attention. Right now you are just spewing incoherent sentence fragments.
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06-19-2020 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by neverbeclever
336/1m
336/1m*100=?,?????%
reference: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

WTF are u talking about?

?/3

Source:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...tally-1706112/


All the best.
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06-19-2020 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
?/3 guy is a certifiable genius compared to this dunce.
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06-19-2020 , 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
I have no idea wtf you are talking about. Cite the post you are referring to, cite the statistic, cite the source, and explain the conclusion you want me to draw from that statistic, then I might take a couple of minutes to pay attention. Right now you are just spewing incoherent sentence fragments.
USA has 336 deaths/million.
Can u do the math or u want me to do it for u?

Source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
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06-19-2020 , 08:06 PM
nbc is so inept at literally everything he touches that he quoted "336" while linking to a web page that says "367"
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06-19-2020 , 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by neverbeclever
USA has 336 deaths/million.
Can u do the math or u want me to do it for u?

Source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
So far you have not stated any reasoning, nor a conclusion, you have just asked me a question. The answer to your question is that, yes, unlike some on this forum, I am able to calculate percentages.

My turn to ask some questions then?

- Why do you think deaths/million is a more relevant statistic than the rate at which infections increase?
- Is this based on your understanding and interpretation of how the logistic growth function works?
- Do you know what a logistic function is?
- Do you know what an exponential function is?
- Do you know what a derivative is?
- What is the acceptable trade-off in deaths per million, for various safety precautions, in your view?
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