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Half a dozen protesters fairly well apart is not quite the same as a hundred thousand packed together like sardines screaming and yelling over each other.

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06-07-2020 , 09:24 PM

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Would you characterize human's approaches to pretty much any of the new diseases we've dealt with historically as ideal from the get go? To me the whole thing looks about par for the course overall. Pretty much all of the big ones have been kind of a fiasco. Some stuff makes sense, lots of fear(some rational some not) misinfo, superstition etc etc

I can't really address that as I don't know and this is uncharted territory as far as our own lifetimes go--but your response seems reasonable. Some amount of confusion is no doubt inevitable. What we've gotten and especially the way the response has been politicized is extreme though.

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06-07-2020 , 09:24 PM

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Half a dozen protesters fairly well apart is not quite the same as a hundred thousand packed together like sardines screaming and yelling over each other.

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06-07-2020 , 09:25 PM

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Half a dozen protesters fairly well apart is not quite the same as a hundred thousand packed together like sardines screaming and yelling over each other.

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06-07-2020 , 09:26 PM

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06-07-2020 , 09:26 PM

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06-07-2020 , 09:27 PM

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Has trump even tried to play the Covid card with the protests? Serious question. He certainly has expressed strong reasons for wanting to use strong force to quash the protests. But I have never heard him give that as a reason.

Anyways, I don’t know how much covid is going to spread because of all these protests (or going to the beach). I don’t think anyone does. The point is, as lockbox articulates, from Day 1 the “experts” seem to have used this crisis as a way to test just how much contradictory BS they can get the sheeple To buy. And the answer so far seems to be “A Lot”

Infection rate of 99%.
On this forum probably even higher...

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06-07-2020 , 09:30 PM

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And I can't find the crazed protesters jamming the door right now, but everyone knows that pic.

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06-07-2020 , 09:35 PM

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The numbers are not even remotely comparable. Comparing the risk factor of 200 thousand protesters with 50 protesters is laughable.

It's like comparing a nuclear bomb with a hand grenade.

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06-07-2020 , 09:49 PM

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The numbers are not even remotely comparable. Comparing the risk factor of 200 thousand protesters with 50 protesters is laughable.

It's like comparing a nuclear bomb with a hand grenade.

The 50 (or whatever actual number but seemed like it was more than that) protesters were protesting for the right for things to return to normal. It seems fair to call you out for hypocrisy here regardless of the difference in the sizes of the protests.

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06-07-2020 , 10:04 PM

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Well, if you had been paying attention you would see that I was actually attempting to point out the health experts double standards in encouraging the protests. Of course the original point always gets lost in the noise once the gaslighting starts.

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06-07-2020 , 10:10 PM

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That's fine to point out. But you also used rhetoric like "how many lives did the protests cost" when I think if you had it your way (and certainly mine) there would have never been a lockdown to begin with. That's where you're trying to have it both ways

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06-07-2020 , 10:58 PM

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This is going to be the first (and I fervently hope the last) time I agree with anything joe has had to say, but if health professionals are saying that these protests are somehow magically not an issue as far as COVID is concerned, then this is obviously problematic, irrespective of joe's motives for raising the point.

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06-07-2020 , 11:17 PM

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They aren't. In the one quote that we've been supplied, it's not so much a "double standard" as different value judgment: large crowded protest so that people can get haircuts and go to casinos: not worth it. Large crowded protest so that police won't abuse black people: not without risk but more meritorious. Joe is going to keep repeating his lies no matter, though.

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06-07-2020 , 11:35 PM

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So, since the left believes COVID is real, we are going to let the police and the disease kill black people. Come on, this is absurd. 88 black people have been shot to death by police in 2020. 235 in 2019. Assume none of those were justified (which, seems a stretch). Now, imagine that COVID is this massively deadly infectious disease that spreads exponentially. They going to protest, go home, spread it through the neighborhoods and kill thousands of people. If COVID is as serious as say, these protests are going to be responsible for 50 times the deaths caused by police. Of course, the Dem governors know COVID has been overblown.

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06-07-2020 , 11:50 PM

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George Floyd wasn't shot, and the vaccine to police violence is direct action.

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06-07-2020 , 11:55 PM

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I think they should protest, and the whole country should be reopened. Of course, I think this is totally overblown.

But, you can't think COVID is a terrible disease, say BLACK LIVES MATTER, then encourage people to protest in this fashion. You would be killing thousands of people! You would be creating many more deaths than the worse numbers of police brutality (shot, choked, beaten). It is a terrible argument. Just admit that the country was shut down for political reasons, or say that people shouldn't be protesting in this manner. Can't have it both ways here.

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06-07-2020 , 11:55 PM

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So, since the left believes COVID is real

Get a ****ing grip.

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06-07-2020 , 11:59 PM

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Get a ****ing grip.

Even you see the hypocrisy here. We can't let a hundred people in a church, a person to get his hair cut, but a million person march on DC is totally safe.

What a joke.

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06-07-2020 , 11:59 PM

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Even you see the hypocrisy here. We can't let a hundred people in a church, a person to get his hair cut, but a million person march on DC is totally safe.

What a joke.

Even if true, that doesn't mean COVID "isn't real".

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06-08-2020 , 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

Even if true, that doesn't mean COVID "isn't real".

I make points by exaggeration often, in case you haven't noticed.

COVID is real. Reaction was completely irrational and overblown has been the point all along.

Wash your hands and don't touch your face. And, probably stop shaking hands (barbaric disease spreading custom in the first place).

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06-08-2020 , 12:03 AM

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And, of course, policy makers should be working on ways to protect our nursing homes.

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06-08-2020 , 12:10 AM

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Even you see the hypocrisy here. We can't let a hundred people in a church, a person to get his hair cut, but a million person march on DC is totally safe.

What a joke.

The hypocrisy is limited only by your imagination.

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06-08-2020 , 12:11 AM

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It's trump's fault. He has stoked racism. He has stoked police aggression. He has stoked COVID denial. So here we are at over 100k dead from COVID and mass protests in the streets.

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