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I don't know what Mr. Wookie predicted, but this is a very dumb way to measure whether red states or blue states are doing a better job of responding to the pandemic. New York and New Jersey were hardest hit in this wave partly because of population density and heavy use of public transportation, but mostly because New York had by far the most cases two weeks before any states were locked down. In other words, New York had a big head start on infections spreading before any measures were implemented.

It is far from certain that New York will have a similar "head start" if there is a second wave. The hot spot for a second wave could be Atlanta, Denver, Dallas, Chicago, LA, or wherever. If you are living in a city in a red state and thinking that New York is uniquely susceptible to a pandemic, you are badly mistaken. New York might be a little more vulnerable, but we aren't talking about an order of magnitude.

I'll put it this way. COVID is a respiratory illness. NYC isn't some sort of crazy outlier when it comes to prevalence of respiratory illnesses generally. New Yorkers don't get the flu or colds at a dramatically higher rate than people in a lot of other areas. So why should anyone assume that NYC will bear the brunt of a second wave of COVID?

I am not claiming that red states are doing a better job of handling the pandemic. I thought it was a rather curious prediction on Mr. Wookie's part.

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05-20-2020 , 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by lagtight

I am not claiming that red states are doing a better job of handling the pandemic. I thought it was a rather curious prediction on Mr. Wookie's part.

You're welcome to quote where I made the prediction you allege I'm making. I don't recall making one like you claim.

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05-20-2020 , 11:29 AM

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It’s also amusing that there is a thread that was devoted to praising a guy who canceled elections in his state so that he could simply appoint people instead.

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05-20-2020 , 11:36 AM

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You're welcome to quote where I made the prediction you allege I'm making. I don't recall making one like you claim.

I will attempt to find it.

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05-20-2020 , 11:36 AM

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Whatever the Southern red states are or are not doing right, at some point we should acknowledge that they are not really the states we should be focusing on right now.

The focus on Georgia, Texas, etc. definitely feels more political than based on reality on the ground.

I doubt Gov. Kemp is the solution, but he is not the problem either.

Texas is still hitting daily highs as the open up more businesses.

You should probably be less worried about what has happened in the past and more worried about what is going to be the reality in 6-8 weeks.

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05-20-2020 , 11:39 AM

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It’s also amusing that there is a thread that was devoted to praising a guy who canceled elections in his state so that he could simply appoint people instead.

Well said. At some point, this Kemp dude might give some people the idea that politicians are self-serving jackasses.

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05-20-2020 , 02:26 PM

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Vaccine is at least 1 year away with another year to two to produce and distribute across 330,000,000.

Minimum 2 years, maximum 5 years, without understanding the mutations of the virus.

That's too long to shut down world economies.

Getting it to 330.000 000 people doesn't cut it. You will have to get it to ALL people in the world. The world doesnt consist of only america. You have to stop thinking like this. Yes you might have the most craziest president of all countries. But that doesn't do anything. It will just come back and hit you in the balls.

Anyways by the time they made a vaccine for this which I think will be in 2-3 years if ever, there could be a new virus imo. This thing is mutating all the time.

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05-20-2020 , 04:35 PM

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You're welcome to quote where I made the prediction you allege I'm making. I don't recall making one like you claim.

Hi, MrWookie. I accessed your posting history, but it only goes back 250 posts, which isn't far enough back.

Is there a way to look at your earlier posts in this Forum?

Thanks.

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05-20-2020 , 04:51 PM

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Just use the search function for a more targeted search (can't use tapatalk though have to use a web browser). I tried searching Wookie's posts for "southern" and "red" but didn't find what you're referring to though.

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05-20-2020 , 04:54 PM

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Thanks, LB! I'll try that.

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05-20-2020 , 05:27 PM

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COVID-19 Death by Age Sweden

88%+ 70 and over, 65%+ 80 and over

COVID-19 Death by Age PA

80%+ 70 and over, more deaths among people age 100 and over than 45 and less.

Makes a very strong case of why lockdowns should continue.

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05-20-2020 , 06:38 PM

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Clearly Trump has decided that the future will not be as bad as feared because he has noticed that the curve's second derivative is negative and he has combined that with the Dagen H syndrome.

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05-20-2020 , 06:43 PM

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Clearly Trump has decided that the future will not be as bad as feared because he has noticed that the curve's second derivative is negative and he has combined that with the Dagen H syndrome.

His uncle was a nucular scientist after all (nucular, very powerful stuff), so I expect he did exactly the analysis you describe.

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05-20-2020 , 06:46 PM

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Clearly Trump has decided that the future will not be as bad as feared because he has noticed that the curve's second derivative is negative and he has combined that with the Dagen H syndrome.

Obviously. Statistics is just one of the areas in which Trump's level of fluency astonishes the experts.

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05-20-2020 , 08:40 PM

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Watched the CDN news and it said 17 states are still trending upward in cases and very few have even met Trumps own guidelines.

30 days more Canada needs to close the border 60 days more. I hope I am wrong but 3 weeks from now.........

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05-20-2020 , 10:12 PM

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05-20-2020 , 10:17 PM

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2020 Darwin Awards is gonna be a tough field.

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05-21-2020 , 12:30 AM

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79 yrs old. Less than 1400 deaths in entire state.

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05-21-2020 , 12:32 AM

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79 yrs old. Less than 1400 deaths in entire state.

And as he shows, there is no more virus in the state, and the whole thing is totally over.

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05-21-2020 , 12:58 AM

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Less than 1400 deaths in entire state.

Only ~half a 9/11!

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05-21-2020 , 02:02 AM

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And as he shows, there is no more virus in the state, and the whole thing is totally over.

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Only ~half a 9/11!

Ship the under. Hell yeah

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05-21-2020 , 01:07 PM

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Good thing all the extra sickness and death is saving the Georgia economy

"Weekly applications for jobless benefits have remained so elevated that Georgia now leads the country in terms of the proportion of its workforce applying for unemployment assistance. A staggering 40.3 percent of the state's workers — two out of every five — has filed for unemployment insurance payments since the coronavirus pandemic led to widespread shutdowns*in mid-March, a POLITICO review of Labor Department data shows."

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...us-jobs-273070

OH WAIT.

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05-21-2020 , 02:25 PM

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79 yrs old. Less than 1400 deaths in entire state.

Every day hitting highs state wide for cases and many local areas hitting highs for death.

What is exponential growth daddy?

What has happened to make you think the virus has evaporated and gone away? Because that is literally the only defense one could have of ignorant statements like the ones you made.