So how are we to know if someone is a woman or not? How wide are they allowed to smile before we should be suspicious that they're really just evil?

Right, that's a bananas way to think about someone you barely know.

What other things shouldn't we trust? Or is this only a one issue thing for you.

Do you have problems answering this because your implying your answer is to take everyone's word for it at face value. You see you IMPLY but you won't say how you feel about this. Then you can't be wrong right?


do you mean to think about a trans person I barely know? You aren't being clear. We make inferences on people we barely know all of the time. Its the intelligent way to live life. We should especially understand this as poker players, that we must make probabilistic decisions about people. Is that what you think is bananas, be clear here.

I don't understand the question. we shouldn't blindly trust what people say about themselves of course not. We shouldn't blindly trust others intentions of course not. Is that one issue?

They were born with a vagina and uterus. It’s basic human biology not rocket science.

Its really a trick question. Its not how words work. You have to give context or meaning or the definition to ask if something falls under the scope of a word.

When you don't adhere here to this obvious truth you can then say things like 'I am a woman therefore I deserve to be allowed to play in woman's sports.

Or "I am a woman and woman change in front of other woman therefore I get to change in front of other woman."

Thats messing with the context and definition mid sentence. It's logically invalid.

I directly answered before and you even quoted my answer, so pretending now that I'm having problems answering is just bizarre and makes me get bored of the conversation.

You were the one saying that Dylan doesn't seem like a woman to you because she smiles weirdly. You therefore have some criteria of traits that you look at to determine if someone is a woman, and it just seems like a really weird list of traits to me.

Stop using science and biology

Those are called human females. Women are different.

You want to ask me what determines if dylan is a woman? You have to give the definition of the word woman then.
Do you think that dylan is a trans-woman or just a woman? Do you think that a trans-woman is a woman? I'm asking about the definitions you use in this regard.

Words need context.

Still waiting for you to explain how you’re determining what’s caricature and what’s not when it comes to smiles.

This is basic human instinct.

To anyone with eyes and a brain it is obvious that Dylan dude is faking or mentally ill. (Probably a little of both) Anyone itt defending him is just trolling

Because you are obviously a copulating donkey?

There is no way to tell. We are going to have to put this dark mystery somewhere next to the tootsie roll pop. Maybe someday we'll discover some biological features that can tell us for certain, but we just aren't there yet.

And instincts are never wrong?

The issue is you making bigoted assumptions about the motives of people you don't know or understand.

Again, blatant transphobia like this on a dying Internet forum isn’t a big deal. But what upsets me is that people like wsopfinaltable and jbouton making these types of comments at high schools around the country to young trans kids. We know already how horrific the suicide rate is, this sort of casual dismissal of trans people is heart wrenching in that context.

Please stop throwing around the fact that these comments increase the suicide rates . You know who has higher suicide rates men in general, Veterans, and trans individuals that go through detransitioning as well as teenage girls

Suicide is a mental health issue and everyone should get the treatment they require. I think the comments are extreme as well but I choose to ignore them

Why? Does it make you feel uncomfortable about your politics?

Nope not in the least bit . Suicide is a mental health issue but god forbid we say some trans individuals suffer from a mental health issue

So therefore we... shouldn't talk about suicide among transgender people? Collect your thoughts, please form a coherent idea before posting, don't just do train-of-thought spam.

NO I am tired of Uke's oh you called them her or he when they wanted they and now their going to kill themselves and Trans community has such a high rate of suicide .

Not everyone has to buy into Ukes Ideology but everyone should treat everyone in their lives with kindness and respect unless they are direspected

Not at sure why it should be assumed that the people telling people they aren't born in the bodies should be blamed for trans suicides, as opposed to the people who are telling people that.

The important thing is that we not let trans suicide rates discourage us from bullying the **** out of each and every transgender person.