I dunno about okay, but its certainly not a societal emergency that needs hundreds of millions of dollars worth of attention and policy

https://americandreaming.substack.co...led-hypothesis

B self identification, which is very positive in general, has nothing to do with trans topics though.

A lot of people have always being B, especially if we include asymmetrical Bis, like people who tend to be hetero but don't deny some kind of homosexual relationship could be fine for them (like me and a ton of other people), or at least they think that in their mind and are open to that if the situation arises.

FYP.

Out there just smashing those glass ceilings like a champ. Multiple body lengths like it's no big deal. Just another Tuesday for the person who couldn't find a podium in the men's division.

I always get a kick out of the justification for letting men into women's sports being, "Relax, there are hardly any men trying to get into women's sports."

You break down this barrier and more will follow.

If I'm a mediocre male athlete and can score a free $250k education by growing my hair out and wearing a tighter outfit than I do now, I could be convinced. More importantly, the true sickos out there who impose this on their kids have a much lower hurdle to get over.

Luciom already mentioned the families who managed to birth several "theybies" in defiance of this extremely small natural occurrence of this according to those in the know. I assume a fair number of you know of a kid that dealt with a parent that forced them into a heavy sports life early on at a detriment to their well being, in hopes of inspiring the next Tiger Woods, or at the very least trying to get a free college education. My own daughter ended up with my size and I did my best to try and convince her to volleyball her way to a free ride somewhere, but she chose art and horseback riding for her leisure activities instead of the sort of athletics that get you a scholarship. Earl Woods was accused of some pretty sketchy behavior with Tiger. Ditto for Richard Williams. Now think about the many many thousands of other kids who didn't become the best in their respective sports but still had to deal with the shitty childhood.

I know for a fact that all of you are aware of the general toxicity that occurs in youth sports in general. Parents often need to be reminded that no college scholarships will be handed out at any given game.

I saw some clips of the Riley Gaines interview, and I'm inclined to believe her about what kind of nonsense goes on at that level today. It's a real "**** you" to all of the women who Title IX was meant to serve.

have to disagree with you here. the people commit crimes under the guise of protesting should be prosecuted but in many of these cases its just a matter of people having too much time on their hands and following a hip trend on social media. this goes for both the BLM people and the Jan 6th people. most, not all, but most, of both groups are harmless idiots.

If you catch them after the fact sure.

But when they start doing violent illegal things and you are there as a law enforcer, shoot to kill.

People simply shouldn't even consider the option of doing violent stuff because they are bored, stressed, disagree with POTUS or congress and so on.

They should know they die if they try every times with no mercy.

Thanks inso you got the core of what I meant about parental pressure

again, disagree.

imagine you are protesting the presence of some trans book in schools. 5% of protestors then start breaking windows, lighting fires etc. you cant just have the police shooting at everyone.

Data is hard to find on this but as far as I can tell, outside of Lia, there was one other transitioned athlete who performed exceptionally with CeCe Telfer winning the Divion II 400 meter hurdle national championship

So I dunno, how do you reconcile this? Is one dominant trans person one too many? The answer is clearly yes for many in this thread.

For every Lia there are multiple Juniper's

You probably thought I was being harsh to him or something, but then you find out what he's really like. I don't mind disagreeing with people, even on moral issues that I think are important, but someone talking about all the murdering that he wants the state to do comes around it should at least be brought up once in a while, no?

if there is one silver lining to that mediocre male athlete shattering womens records its that it wakes a lot of people who probably lean a little left wake the **** up as to whats happening out there. it will be the same thing when
"man to woman" types start using ladies rooms and sexual assaults go up.

the others should leave asap when violence happens.

that's 101 protesting.

and groups should kick in the ass the violent ones to begin with, you have a responsibility when you choose to associate with someone.

to be clear I did protest against vax passes in Italy (as a vaxxed person).

when things got violent I went away straight up, immediately

no, i didnt mind you disagreeing with him to the level you did. its obvious me and you disagree on many issues but i have no issue with you getting pissed off at certain things. i dont think you're a bad person. on the whole, you're most likely a better human than i am. i also believe that when someone is overly good, or perhaps, overly sensitive to the plights of others it can also be dangerous.

i have no idea if he will change his mind on said subject but when you allow open discourse the chance is always there.

Yeah, you don't get to just grow out your hair and throw on a tight outfit and compete. That is so far detached from reality it hurts.

there is a very strong likelihood in these scenarios that innocent people are going to be killed. there is almost a guarantee that someone young, dumb, but still basically not a threat to the world will be killed.

It woke me the **** up that you guys have no clue what you are talking about, that is for sure.

you can literally just self define as trans and compete with women you are right, no need to change hair

so, what step did he miss? taking some medication? in the span of less than a year, said swimmer went from unknown male athlete to record breaking woman athlete. it can't be that complicated of a process.

yes that's possible.

just don't join protests that can become riots is the lesson. stay the **** away from enemies of the state is the lesson

as opposed to you, all knowing person?

you guys (leftists) think anyone who disagrees with you is simply uneducated, when the truth is we think the education you choose to receive is basically nonsense made up on the fly to support a position.

any protest can become a riot.

I notice you edited this we are at 2 outstanding athletes out of 32.

According to this very trans-friendly source



https://www.outsports.com/2022/1/7/2...aa-lia-thomas/

https://www.ncaa.org/sports/2022/1/2...on-policy.aspx

lol no, me too protests and several others I can't cite Italian ones as you are not familiar with them, but pro-familt protests with kids ) could never become a riot

cmon man, haven't you learned to not reply to me with easily disprovable lies?