I tend to agree. Some of it is just a backlash to what's perceived as the forcefeeding of trans, but I also think some of it is Dylan-specific.

Her videos have been all over Fox News and right wing twitter this whole time. Possibly edited to even be worse than they appear. I really dont know. That is just the one that came to mind as soon as I saw this thread. Just letting you know you may have waded into something unawares.

I was no idea how visible Dylan is, but I was aware of Dylan before the Matt Walsh tirade against her that made news a few months back. Probably for at least the last year (I recall saying that at the time so maybe 18 months now).

Yes, I’m aware there has been a perpetual string of transphobia specifically targeting Dylan. It would presumably happen to any trans person who blew up as big as she did as quickly as she did. And if she ever says anything that steps over the line of those conservative sensibilities, it is going to make the rounds, no matter how positive her general message seems to be. As you perpetuated.

Did it happen to Caitlin Jenner?

I'm sure Jenner was attacked by some but I don't recall Jenner being attacked to the extent that Dylan has been. I tend to agree with Dunyain that there are aspects of Dylan's persona that make her particularly open for criticism that wouldn't necessarily be the case if it were any other trans person like you suggest

I think she was attacked to a degree, but she is a pretty ****ing unique character, whether it is insane fame or the kardashians or that she is pretty conservative. I think she is an outlier to most experiences of how conservatives react to trans people.

Most of the attacks I’ve seen against Budweiser were not very specific of who Dylan was and gave the clear impression that either they had never seen a single TikTok of hers OR like Dunyain had only seen a curated set of what conservatives found to be the most problematic. That basic pattern where you will be combed through to find the things most considered objectionable and spread throughout social media will inevitably repeat.

Caitlin Jenner has been attacked and received death threats not from the right lately but from the trans community itself

You know her gender. Say it.

Twitter is down. But the desantis campaign attacked trump for associating with her.

Thats probably true. Presumably the overwhelming majority of people on all sides of the spectrum denounce death threats to people of all sides of the spectrum, so I don’t think your whataboutism does anything.

Luckbox asked a question I answered it not sure how that's a whataboutism.

Let's be honest you want to have discussion about everything trans and anybody that does not believe in your ideology must be silenced .

I'm gonna identify as transparent see you later

It is quite bizarre how you assume that someone stating their opinion on the internet forum is equivalent to "must be silenced". I disagree with you equally as strongly on your bad canadian politics takes as your bad trans issues takes, but you only suggest I'm ideologically trying to silence you on trans issues. Why the difference? Are you being ideological and trying to silence me when you disagree with me?

Uke deadnaming a trans man in this thread!

Yikes. My apologies for the slip up

Is this the biggest victory in the history of "cancel culture"?

It is true that as much as conservative like to decry how horrible cancel culture is, they are pretty good at engaging in it. The left is going to fecklessly engage in infighting too quickly to be able to actually accomplish a stock price reduction on a corporation.

Jesus said in John 15:20, “If they persecuted me, they will also persecute you.”

Meaning if people crucified Jesus the son of God it doesn't matter if you are straight, gay, male, female, trans, black or white.

Eventually, the mob turns on everybody.

First they came for Jesus and I did nothing...

https://www.upstreampodcast.org/conversations

Upstream did a great podcast on 'Trans Liberation and Solidarity', approaching it from a Marxist / Hegelian point of view, which has some of the best analysis I've heard of the issue so far, for those of you with the stomach to listen to leftist academia.

I'll definitely check that out later as Marxism never gave us anything bad !

I don't need to be dragged down new rabbit holes today, and yet here I am.

https://pflag.org/glossary/

How the hell is "folks" a word that requires alteration for inclusivity?

uke, to understand the Bud Light outrage, you gotta turn your sophistication knob down a little bit. 99.99% of society is not as woke as you are, and thus your perspective is skewed.

I think I've decided that this is what separates the LBGT+ movement from other tiny minorities who believe weird stuff, like say Scientologists. Tom Cruise isn't out there on the streets every day ripping into non-scientologists for using words in the fashion they were originally intended. They keep it inside the clubhouse.

Gays commandeered an existing word that didn't see widespread use. It may have even started out as a slur, sort of like "queer" was definitely a slur and then was adopted by the community as a self-descriptor. Trans people are out there changing the definition of man and woman and that's just a bridge too far for most. Words have meaning, until they don't. Society has managed to beat the word "literally" into such an unrecognizable mess that they quite literally added a new and contradictory meaning in our official dictionary. Some words are more resilient than others.

Ladyboys have been a thing in Thailand for how long now? People are generally cool with it, right? Though, that could be a Buddhism thing. They probably think it's a form of divine punishment for past transgressions. Don't kick a man when he's down, so to speak. Still, they didn't try to use the existing words for the sexes, they created a third. I admit I have no idea if the ladyboy thing goes both ways, though.

Is nobody going to mention the terrible photoshop job on Dylan's profile photo? It's like someone shopped his head onto the body of an 8 year old. Where did the shoulders go?

That video is perfect for its intended purpose, which is algorithm engagement. Yeah, people looked at you because your dick was clearly showing through your shorts. If Ron Swanson wore shorts like that to get some steaks at Food and Stuff, everyone would notice. Not because they thought he was a woman, but because his dick was on display. Stop making yourself a victim.

"folks" has been a term used by LGBT people to refer to themselves for a long time. If they're spelling it differently it's just to try to be cool.

Recognizing it is wrong to get all hopping mad that a company used a trans person to advertise to their followers on their feed doesn’t take being some super woke person using rarely used new buzzwords the right wing can source from lgbt communities. It just takes a bit of humanity. You don’t have to use “folx” - I don’t use that word - to recognize this.

You are super woke though in fairness.