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03-21-2024 , 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by sublime
no, we want to protect children from a fad that has dire consequences, in the case of surgery, and far from optimal long term results, in the case of HRT.

once said person attains the age of 18, they should be allowed to do what they want. since the surgery is elective, they should pay for it and the taxpayers should definitely not foot the bill.

as for sports, we want women to be able to compete against women. not a man who decides he's a woman, but an actual woman.

our arguments, unlike the ones used by people promoting this lifestyle to children, is rooted in common sense and doesn't require studies conducted by "experts," hoop jumping, or the invention of new terminology.
So common sense and science is the default until it challenges your world view, in which case the arbiter of common sense declares ‘experts’ as phonies pushing a ‘fad’. Because being trans is the hot new thing these phonies are pushing billions of children into so they can all dominate sports teams you thing they don’t belong on?

These worldviews don’t even matter. They just matter to you as a talking point because one trans athlete dominating a sport is too many for you, person who previously didn’t care about women’s sports

You can try your best to appear balanced, but you have the same talking points that amount to zero that you call the hill you’re willing to die on as Luciom and it’s really sad because your post is a really hard attempt at polishing a ****. A **** that’s been stepped on a thousand times over in this thread

Last edited by Doorbread; 03-21-2024 at 05:46 AM.
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03-21-2024 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Doorbread
So common sense and science is the default until it challenges your world view, in which case the arbiter of common sense declares ‘experts’ as phonies pushing a ‘fad’. Because being trans is the hot new thing these phonies are pushing billions of children into so they can all dominate sports teams you thing they don’t belong on?

These worldviews don’t even matter. They just matter to you as a talking point because one trans athlete dominating a sport is too many for you, person who previously didn’t care about women’s sports

You can try your best to appear balanced, but you have the same talking points that amount to zero that you call the hill you’re willing to die on as Luciom and it’s really sad because your post is a really hard attempt at polishing a ****. A **** that’s been stepped on a thousand times over in this thread
i still dont care about women's sports, fwiw. i do care about a woman's rights to compete against other women.

what i care a lot more about is the normalization to children of an extreme act.

what i also care about is elective surgery becoming the taxpayers burden.

what if i identify as an international sex symbol who must maintain his appearance into older age. should i be entitled to free botox, TRT, peptides, face lifts etc?

i feel my views are relatively benign. i dont want an outlaw of trans clinics. i dont want these people to lose any rights etc. i just want children shielded and the taxpayer to not carry the burden of an individual's elective surgery.
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03-21-2024 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
Yes he refers to actual medical conditions, unlike trans ness which isn't a medical condition
if that is true, then bringing them into the debate is nonsensical.
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03-21-2024 , 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sublime
i still dont care about women's sports, fwiw. i do care about a woman's rights to compete against other women.

what i care a lot more about is the normalization to children of an extreme act.

what i also care about is elective surgery becoming the taxpayers burden.

what if i identify as an international sex symbol who must maintain his appearance into older age. should i be entitled to free botox, TRT, peptides, face lifts etc?

i feel my views are relatively benign. i dont want an outlaw of trans clinics. i dont want these people to lose any rights etc. i just want children shielded and the taxpayer to not carry the burden of an individual's elective surgery.
I do care about women sports in American university because if you are good it's free tuition
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03-21-2024 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
I do care about women sports in American university because if you are good it's free tuition
yeah, i'm on board with that. i just don't care to watch said sport.
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03-23-2024 , 01:18 AM
I had a good moment today.

Sometimes this thread is pretty dehumanizing, all of these people raging against this or that part of being trans. It sometimes sucks you in. But real humans are sure one hell of an antidote. I was speaking privately with a student of mine today, and had forgotten their name so asked it. The student got a bit emotional and then with a lot of hesitation and vulnerability shared that while most people know them by one name (the name I have in my official files), that their close friends know they are trans and they go by a different traditionally gendered name. They seemed really appreciative of my response, and i was just a genuinely beautiful moment. I'm glad they shared it with me.
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03-23-2024 , 05:30 AM
Last weekend I went to see my favorite Portland band, which is headed by a trans woman. They sold out the venue for the first time as a headliner. Great show, and I told her so on the way out. Kinda sad that she will be moving to New Orleans soon though.
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03-23-2024 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
I do care about women sports in American university because if you are good it's free tuition
Does this free tuition somehow morph to you being a payor and, therefore, you have the right have input into who plays American college sports?
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03-23-2024 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jjjou812
Does this free tuition somehow morph to you being a payor and, therefore, you have the right have input into who plays American college sports?
It's a moral consideration, same as you can comment on, say, Alberta banning puberty blockers for gender disphoric minors negatively if you think it's a mistake even if you aren't a resident in Alberta
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03-23-2024 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
It's a moral consideration, same as you can comment on, say, Alberta banning puberty blockers for gender disphoric minors negatively if you think it's a mistake even if you aren't a resident in Alberta
How is free tuition a moral consideration?
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03-23-2024 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jjjou812
How is free tuition a moral consideration?
Charity is intrinsically a moral matter isn't it? Both if public or private
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03-24-2024 , 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
Kinda sad that she will be moving to New Orleans soon though.
Maybe she read the thread and didn't want to live in the same city as a transphobic fan
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03-25-2024 , 12:29 AM
Far out
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03-25-2024 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
I had a good moment today.

Sometimes this thread is pretty dehumanizing, all of these people raging against this or that part of being trans. It sometimes sucks you in. But real humans are sure one hell of an antidote. I was speaking privately with a student of mine today, and had forgotten their name so asked it. The student got a bit emotional and then with a lot of hesitation and vulnerability shared that while most people know them by one name (the name I have in my official files), that their close friends know they are trans and they go by a different traditionally gendered name. They seemed really appreciative of my response, and i was just a genuinely beautiful moment. I'm glad they shared it with me.
Very cool, bro.

Keep collecting those moments
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04-01-2024 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Doorbread
So common sense and science is the default until it challenges your world view, in which case the arbiter of common sense declares ‘experts’ as phonies pushing a ‘fad’. Because being trans is the hot new thing these phonies are pushing billions of children into so they can all dominate sports teams you thing they don’t belong on?

These worldviews don’t even matter. They just matter to you as a talking point because one trans athlete dominating a sport is too many for you, person who previously didn’t care about women’s sports

You can try your best to appear balanced, but you have the same talking points that amount to zero that you call the hill you’re willing to die on as Luciom and it’s really sad because your post is a really hard attempt at polishing a ****. A **** that’s been stepped on a thousand times over in this thread


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04-01-2024 , 03:22 PM
Wait so it's true that you get prescribed drugs with permanent horrendous effects with diagnosis entirely based on your own words with no objectivity and external verification...
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04-01-2024 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by hole in wan


I doubt the CBC will broadcast the piece as the Government will shut it down
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04-01-2024 , 04:00 PM
this one is a doozy


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04-01-2024 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
this one is a doozy


That's all BS though. The day of trans visibility goes back to 2009 and Biden declared it something 2 years ago and it's always on March 31st, but Easter moves around. Biden first mentioned it on a Thursday and it was first created on a Tuesday. And, you know, Easter is always on Sunday.

Really, how can the story about it being Easter be a thing? How did it being a thing last more than 5 minutes?
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04-01-2024 , 04:10 PM
Holy ****, Dance Marathon Day and Crayola Crayon Day were on Easter. Will they show some ****ing respect! Jesus Christ, it's also National Tater Day!
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04-01-2024 , 04:12 PM
Why is "trans visibility" even a thing?
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04-01-2024 , 04:12 PM
Hope you didn't forget this one. Easter was also World Backup Day. Don't lose your data!
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04-01-2024 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
Why is "trans visibility" even a thing?
Who gives a ****? Why are people whining about it being on Easter? Why are they continuing to whine about it? Why are you still whining about it?
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04-01-2024 , 04:14 PM
March 31st is also Anesthesia Tech Day. Why is that even a thing!!!!!!! I'm so furious!!!!!!
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04-01-2024 , 04:25 PM
How does Caitlyn post this without looking it up? How does she not delete it when she finds out (she surely has) that there's no Easter connection at all? I sure hope the people here are smart and honest enough to be done pretending it's news.
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