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Conservatives: What are your principles? Conservatives: What are your principles?

09-15-2020 , 11:44 AM
Of course I think it would be. I suggest you don't do it.
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09-15-2020 , 11:49 AM
*shrug* I guess I'm at a loss for how to refer to all these ****ing ghouls.
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09-15-2020 , 11:52 AM
It's quite amusing watching chez trying to argue that The Real Problem (TM) is not the prevalence of deplorable donkeys, it's all the normal people calling them deplorable donkeys.
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09-15-2020 , 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
It's quite amusing watching chez trying to argue that The Real Problem (TM) is not the prevalence of deplorable donkeys, it's all the normal people calling them deplorable donkeys.
You lie. I say no such thing

but as long as it amuses you. That's nice
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09-15-2020 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Of course I think it would be. I suggest you don't do it.
So your buddy BruceZ was probably super out of line when he called Mexican cockroaches, right? Did you ever correct him on this?
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09-15-2020 , 01:36 PM
Got some CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES around the free press today

A Washington lawmaker shared conspiracy theories. She threatened a reporter who wrote about it.

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Daniel Walters was surprised to see an incoming call from Washington state Rep. Jenny Graham (R) on Aug. 27. The Spokane, Wash., journalist wrote a story that day about Graham sharing false articles on Facebook, including a story claiming thousands of missing children are kept in dungeons and raped by demons.

But Walters was unable to pick up in time. When he called the state representative back, she unleashed a barrage of hateful insults.

“You c---------!” Graham said twice. “Don’t ever call me again.”
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For days following the phone call, Graham took to Facebook, posting attacks against the reporter and calling his story false. On Monday, Walters wrote a follow-up piece in the Inlander, an alt-weekly newspaper in Spokane, fact-checking his earlier story and including the full recording of his interview with Graham, as well as the audio from a threatening voice mail she left him.

“What I was more concerned with was: Did we get anything wrong? Was there any sort of trust that we violated? Was there anything significantly unfair or inaccurate?” Walters said in an interview with The Washington Post.

Walters began reporting the story about Graham last month, when he noticed she had shared several articles from websites publishing false information and promoting theories also pushed by QAnon, a baseless right-wing conspiracy theory that Satan-worshiping pedophiles are plotting against President Trump and running a sex-trafficking ring.

Among the stories Graham shared were one falsely connecting vaccinations to autism on a website that promotes QAnon conspiracies, and another from a blog that includes a video claiming Democrats are “possessed by demons” and “hate humanity,” Walters reported.
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After the story was published on Aug. 27, Graham called Walters enraged. She left a voice mail, which Walters only heard after his brief call with the representative.

“Daniel, you lying piece of s---,” she said. “You’ve done it. You have started it. Don’t you ever call me again. Do you understand? Don’t you ever — and you tell your buddies not to call me either. It’s on. If you think for one minute you’re going to pull this crap and you’re going to walk away from it, you’re nuts.”
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Instead, she turned to her Facebook page, where she posted about Walters about 15 times, he said. She called the reporter “pathetic,” “hateful,” “disgusting,” and a “lying piece of dung.”
lol
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09-15-2020 , 03:08 PM
It's completely surreal that a lot of trump supporters think he was on some personal deep undercover mission to root out traffickers all these years. And also--totally impossible there could be any Russian connection because lol@ trump being 007
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09-15-2020 , 06:57 PM
saw something on twitter today that said,

"80% of being a conservative today is having no idea what is actually going on."

made me laugh, but also sad because it seems true.
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09-19-2020 , 02:31 PM
Here are some conservative principles that I agree w:

1. Small/limited federal Government
Government is inefficient, private enterprises usually do a better job

2. Lower taxes
Again government likely to be inefficient so why do we want to give them more tax dollars; I actually believe the top 1% are the only ones who are supposed to carry the tax burden

3. 2nd amendment should be protected
I believe there is a gross misinterpretation by liberals on gun control that is usually an emotional response to guns are scary and disregards the original intention of the gun rights. In my interpretation of the 2nd amendment gun rights have everything to do with protecting against a tyrannical power stripping freedoms rather than self defense. Everyone should agree that absolute power corrupts absolutely so to give up our guns would be turning over absolute power to those in charge. (I realize this is already happening)

4. Helping other people by not having them rely on big government
I think it’s important that government isn’t some nanny state where votes are collected from dependent on government people. Seems like a vicious cycle intended to get votes and not actually help people.

5. Believing in a higher power / self worth
I think one thing conservatives are right about is giving an unmoved mover the credit that is due. There’s no scientific proof for either side of this debate, literally everyone just doesn’t know. All we do know is we got here and we magically didn’t appear out of nothing. The genetic code is written like a book so many scientists have turned to God because it’s clear to them someone wrote this book.

6. Conservative family values
I think having a wholesome upbringing is important. I think liberals tend to be focused on the self too much and conservatives tend to understand compromise. It could be tied into God and having a purpose in your life.

I’m a registered independent / I probably lean towards being apolitical. I tested -.13 so I’m actually slightly left of center in one political test I took. I scored -4 in libertarian over authoritarian.

I personally think the political system is broken as is evidence of this thread. It’s a two party false paradigm. Everyone is on team red or team blue and I’m just over here like guys let’s just do what’s right.
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09-19-2020 , 03:00 PM
Self worth but also you’re family made you.. god is real but also there is no scientific proof of that, but also scientists secretly believe in god.... private enterprises are better than the government and capitalism will save us, but also corporations literally have a financial duty to act in their own best interest and not save us..


Couldn’t have summed up “conservative dogma” better than that jarbled goop that means literally nothing if I tried. Good job.
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09-19-2020 , 03:05 PM
also as a fairly progressive person i dont even mind people having guns, provided there are background checks, safety training, increased registration, and liability for incidents caused by your guns(ie your gun gets stolen due to your negligence and a kid shoots up a school with it- you are on the hook for civil liability..)

just lose me with the reddawn cosplay fantasy about tyranical government and/or how you're gonna stop whatever the **** fantasy mall shooter with your revolver.. our government/invading force will swat you down like the ****ing fly you are and no amount of ar-15s will stop them.

just be honest and say that holding a tool designed to kill people gives you a boner and you want to keep doing it.
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09-19-2020 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
also as a fairly progressive person i dont even mind people having guns, provided there are background checks, safety training, increased registration, and liability for incidents caused by your guns(ie your gun gets stolen due to your negligence and a kid shoots up a school with it- you are on the hook for civil liability..)

just lose me with the reddawn cosplay fantasy about tyranical government and/or how you're gonna stop whatever the **** fantasy mall shooter with your revolver.. our government/invading force will swat you down like the ****ing fly you are and no amount of ar-15s will stop them.

just be honest and say that holding a tool designed to kill people gives you a boner and you want to keep doing it.
What are examples of a gun being stolen that both was and was not negligence?
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09-19-2020 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
Self worth but also you’re family made you.. god is real but also there is no scientific proof of that, but also scientists secretly believe in god.... private enterprises are better than the government and capitalism will save us, but also corporations literally have a financial duty to act in their own best interest and not save us..


Couldn’t have summed up “conservative dogma” better than that jarbled goop that means literally nothing if I tried. Good job.
Quite the straw man you’ve created
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09-19-2020 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
also as a fairly progressive person i dont even mind people having guns, provided there are background checks, safety training, increased registration, and liability for incidents caused by your guns(ie your gun gets stolen due to your negligence and a kid shoots up a school with it- you are on the hook for civil liability..)

just lose me with the reddawn cosplay fantasy about tyranical government and/or how you're gonna stop whatever the **** fantasy mall shooter with your revolver.. our government/invading force will swat you down like the ****ing fly you are and no amount of ar-15s will stop them.

just be honest and say that holding a tool designed to kill people gives you a boner and you want to keep doing it.
It’s funny bc I don’t own a gun...

But just because a tyrannical government is taking your freedom day by day doesn’t mean the original intention of the 2nd amendment isn’t spot on.

You are arguing feelings and emotions rather than logic.

We are long overdue for revolution. We need politicians serving the people.

Until then I would never vote or play complicit in this clearly broken and fixed system

Have fun falling for your two party false paradigm
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09-19-2020 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by rjr777
5. Believing in a higher power / self worth
I think one thing conservatives are right about is giving an unmoved mover the credit that is due. There’s no scientific proof for either side of this debate, literally everyone just doesn’t know. All we do know is we got here and we magically didn’t appear out of nothing. The genetic code is written like a book so many scientists have turned to God because it’s clear to them someone wrote this book.

6. Conservative family values
I think having a wholesome upbringing is important. I think liberals tend to be focused on the self too much and conservatives tend to understand compromise. It could be tied into God and having a purpose in your life.
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Originally Posted by rjr777
You are arguing feelings and emotions rather than logic.
lmao
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09-19-2020 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
lmao
Ya don’t actually talk about big government and taxes because you won’t be able to make any counter points just troll God.

But guess what jokes on you...

Science is all faith based belief in gravity Big Bang and evolution w no scientific proof of any of it.
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09-19-2020 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rjr777
Ya don’t actually talk about big government and taxes because you won’t be able to make any counter points just troll God.

But guess what jokes on you...

Science is all faith based belief in gravity Big Bang and evolution w no scientific proof of any of it.
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Location: flat earth
lmao
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09-19-2020 , 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
lmao
Come to outer limits thread and join the discussion.,

It’s flat baby! And you got a rude awakening coming

The science supports a flat and stationary cosmogony.

8 inches per mile squared... it’s the Pythagorean for a spherical earth w circumference 24k miles and guess what... no where has the curve been observed. No curve no globe.

You’ve been lied to... keep falling for two part false paradigm.

Welcome to Gods Glorious creation
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09-19-2020 , 03:45 PM
Well, that escalated quickly.
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09-19-2020 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Well, that escalated quickly.
Cue the trolls...

We got an independent talking conservative values on aisle 8...

8 is infinite like God
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09-19-2020 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by formula72
What are examples of a gun being stolen that both was and was not negligence?
safe storage vs unsafe storage. for example if you own a gun safe and the gun was safely stored inside your home with a trigger lock in the safe and your home is burglarized, vs. your underage son took your gun that was stored on the workbench in the garage and shot up his school.

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Originally Posted by rjr777
Quite the straw man you’ve created
technically you created it since its drawn directly from your post.

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Originally Posted by rjr777
It’s funny bc I don’t own a gun...

But just because a tyrannical government is taking your freedom day by day doesn’t mean the original intention of the 2nd amendment isn’t spot on.

You are arguing feelings and emotions rather than logic.
the FACTS are having a firearm will not protect you from a tyrannical government. your FEELINGS are that your ar-15 will somehow be needed to stop the government from sending a fighter jet to bomb your house.

the second amendment allows you to have the right to a firearm, the rest of it is just militia cosplay to mask the real reasons people want firearms.
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09-19-2020 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by rjr777
3. 2nd amendment should be protected
I believe there is a gross misinterpretation by liberals on gun control that is usually an emotional response to guns are scary and disregards the original intention of the gun rights. In my interpretation of the 2nd amendment gun rights have everything to do with protecting against a tyrannical power stripping freedoms rather than self defense. Everyone should agree that absolute power corrupts absolutely so to give up our guns would be turning over absolute power to those in charge. (I realize this is already happening)
You do realise that this putative tyrannical power has access to cutting edge military hardware, right? Your little pistol or even AK47 isn't going to do much against that.
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09-19-2020 , 03:48 PM
Got some CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES happening

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09-19-2020 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by rjr777
Cue the trolls...

We got an independent talking conservative values crazy **** about guns and tyranny and god and flat earth on aisle 8...

8 is infinite like God
FYP... actually, never mind, same thing.

Last edited by d2_e4; 09-19-2020 at 03:54 PM.
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09-19-2020 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
You do realise that this putative tyrannical power has access to cutting edge military hardware, right? Your little pistol or even AK47 isn't going to do much against that.
That’s a fair point doesn’t make the original interpretation of 2nd amendment wrong , next
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