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Conservatives: What are your principles? Conservatives: What are your principles?

09-25-2020 , 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by rjr777
Things like the department of agriculture spending 20B on meat and dairy subsidies needs to be cut out.



Abortion being funded by states cut out unless it’s an emergency.



Also politicians on both sides being in bed w large corporations in a corporatacracy. Lobbyists and special interests etc



Lack of true free markets



Enforcing monopoly laws and anti trust instead of allowing chroni capitalism to run rampant...



Having politicians serve the people instead of vice versa..



Military spending is also very wasteful and is part of the problem. It’s why I don’t vote. You can tell when Obama ran on an anti war campaign and then sent more troops I knew the globalists were in control and stopped falling for two party false paradigm.
Okay, well in that case, I also oppose "big government."
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09-25-2020 , 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
Jesus never intended to start a religion. His early followers were just a new sect of Judaism that other Jews called the cult of Jesus. They thought Jesus was the Jewish messiah, but when the other prophecies weren’t fulfilled it became a lot harder to convince other Jews to join, so they started converting gentiles. They still string together the Old Testament and the New but that’s why the two testaments conflict so much.

Anyway, lol lagtight. Bless his heart. #themoreyouknow
Sources, please? Thanks.
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09-25-2020 , 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
It’s weird how supposed Christians know so little about their religion’s actual history...
Where can I find out about Christianity's "actual history"?
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09-25-2020 , 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by wet work
If you've always believed abortion is murder--doesn't that make your friend a murderer? Most Rs are still pro-death penalty afaik--trump as well.
I have not always thought abortion is murder.

My friend neither had an abortion (since he's a guy), nor ever performed an abortion.

He encouraged his girlfriend to get an abortion.

Abortion is killing an innocent life, while the death penalty is killing a person found guilty of a heinous crime.

I think because of our corrupt "justice" system in the US, there should be a moratorium on capital punishment.
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09-26-2020 , 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by RFlushDiamonds
No. But we follow Paul's sect as he went out to the gentiles and converted them. That morphed into Christianity becoming the state religion.

So....same old, same old really.



Peter went back and lived like a communist with his Jewish friends.
Huh? Have you been drinking with d2_e4?
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09-26-2020 , 08:02 AM
Not only can men prevent abortions with the new “my cum my choice” motto...

But if a woman tracks her cycle she can literally avoid sex for 2-3 days when egg/s are dropping and it will prevent unwanted pregnancy.
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09-26-2020 , 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
Abortion is killing an innocent life, while the death penalty is killing a person found guilty of a heinous crime.

I think because of our corrupt "justice" system in the US, there should be a moratorium on capital punishment.
Murdering a full-grown human for killing a cell seems a bit heinous, to be honest.
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09-26-2020 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
Huh? Have you been drinking with d2_e4?
Are you saying he tarries too long at the wine ?
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09-26-2020 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
I have not always thought abortion is murder.

My friend neither had an abortion (since he's a guy), nor ever performed an abortion.

He encouraged his girlfriend to get an abortion.

Abortion is killing an innocent life, while the death penalty is killing a person found guilty of a heinous crime.

I think because of our corrupt "justice" system in the US, there should be a moratorium on capital punishment.
Now you're making excuses lol. You go to jail for hiring the hitman or directing the person to commit the act

Would you push a button and have everyone you know that's participated in one (because there are most likely some you're not aware of as well) immediately whisked away for life sentences/worse? Yes, the dudes who just pay(or coerces someone) would be guilty as well in your view.

If the Rs are able to make abortion into murder you can bet your life they're going to be going for the kinds of sentences(I assume someone who uses the phrase baby killer thinks it's heinous) that normally get doled out for it. Just because you think there should be no death penalty--that doesn't change the fact that a large majority of conservatives are in favor of it.
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09-26-2020 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
I have not always thought abortion is murder.

My friend neither had an abortion (since he's a guy), nor ever performed an abortion.

He encouraged his girlfriend to get an abortion.

Abortion is killing an innocent life, while the death penalty is killing a person found guilty of a heinous crime.

I think because of our corrupt "justice" system in the US, there should be a moratorium on capital punishment.
lol, this guy says he follows Jesus. You know some things where Jesus didn't have anything to say? Homosexuality and abortion. You know one where he did? The death penalty.
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09-26-2020 , 12:15 PM
Killing babies makes people angry... rightfully so

While I don’t think the death penalty is fair I also think it shouldn’t be paid for by the state. Is that too much to ask?
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09-26-2020 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by rjr777
Killing babies makes people angry... rightfully so

While I don’t think the death penalty is fair I also think it shouldn’t be paid for by the state. Is that too much to ask?
feel free to show some evidence that non-life saving abortion is ever paid for by tax dollars..

considering the hyde amendment passed before i was ****ing born, you'd think more anti-choice slappies would know they were pushing a ridiculously debunked talking point for the last THIRTY years.
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09-26-2020 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
Pretty sure that if abortion was illegal the number of abortions would drop considerably. Especially if the penalty for performing an abortion was the death penalty, or even just a 20-year prison sentence.
The problem with religious zealot is they promote to be against violence , praise diversity, love each other , etc .

But catholic zealot , like taliban and the rest of the others , go precisely against what their religion promotes as soon someone don’t believe in what they believe ...
Hence they ready to even kill you if you don’t believe And apply their religion ...

They promote freedom as being being important ( only if you abide to Jesus Christ wisdom )
being against government tyranny (but they elected trump That doesn’t respect any political and government institution)
life as to be defended at all cost (but death penalty is great )
Etc ...

Pretty obvious freedom doesn’t have the same meaning for a lot of people .

Yes .... extremist appeared in different forms !
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09-26-2020 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
lol, this guy says he follows Jesus. You know some things where Jesus didn't have anything to say? Homosexuality and abortion. You know one where he did? The death penalty.
Yes that too !

https://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/13/w...ambiguity.html

"I can't take you to text that says, 'Don't commit abortion,' " said Michael J. Gorman, a professor of New Testament and early church history and dean of the Ecumenical Institute of Theology at St. Mary's Seminary and University, located in Baltimore. "It just doesn't exist."

Zealots always cites Verses from the bible to prove they are right but than can’t explicitly quote any about abortion ....

like I said , as long An idea or belief fits their narratives , it’s ok .
But as soon it isn’t , your the enemy , it isn’t acceptable and you deserve to die ....

It’s the American taliban .
Nothing is acceptable but the way of their faith .
Yours as absolutely no value.
Nice American freedom ...

Ps: btw , can anyone tell me where in the constitution American laws should be based from the bible ?

Last edited by Montrealcorp; 09-26-2020 at 03:43 PM.
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09-26-2020 , 04:07 PM
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Ps: btw , can anyone tell me where in the constitution American laws should be based from the bible ?
You're going to have 6 people telling you this in about a month's time.
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09-26-2020 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
Murdering a full-grown human for killing a cell seems a bit heinous, to be honest.
Not heinous at all.
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09-26-2020 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by wet work
Now you're making excuses lol. You go to jail for hiring the hitman or directing the person to commit the act



Would you push a button and have everyone you know that's participated in one (because there are most likely some you're not aware of as well) immediately whisked away for life sentences/worse? Yes, the dudes who just pay(or coerces someone) would be guilty as well in your view.



If the Rs are able to make abortion into murder you can bet your life they're going to be going for the kinds of sentences(I assume someone who uses the phrase baby killer thinks it's heinous) that normally get doled out for it. Just because you think there should be no death penalty--that doesn't change the fact that a large majority of conservatives are in favor of it.
Morality isn't based on who is or who is not in favor of something. Same thing with respect to a law being just or unjust.
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09-26-2020 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
Murdering a full-grown human for killing a cell seems a bit heinous, to be honest.
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Originally Posted by lagtight
Not heinous at all.
This is the most CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES post I have ever seen in my life lmao
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09-26-2020 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
Not heinous at all.
Really? You actually think the death penalty for abortion is acceptable? For instance, you think it would be just to kill a 16 year-old girl just because they have an abortion? Specifically, in the plausible future when Roe v Wade is no more, you would be okay with, say, Georgia passing a law making having an abortion first-degree murder?
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09-26-2020 , 06:59 PM
Told you people...
You ( glad I’m in Canada) have american talibans in your country.
It’s what they want and nothing else is acceptable .....

And that’s where racism ( surprised ? Really ? ) as well can come from .
Differences of anything is simply rejected .
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09-26-2020 , 07:07 PM
Btw , if you killed a young girl That aborted, Because as an example she was raped ,
don’t you kill future babies ?
Because you prevent this young girl to maybe have a family ( since she got death penalty for abortion) , doesn’t it equal to kill lot “futur” babies later on as well ?
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09-26-2020 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Original Position
Really? You actually think the death penalty for abortion is acceptable? For instance, you think it would be just to kill a 16 year-old girl just because they have an abortion? Specifically, in the plausible future when Roe v Wade is no more, you would be okay with, say, Georgia passing a law making having an abortion first-degree murder?
Like any crime in which death is one the possible punishments, each case would have to be evaluated on its own merits.

Owing to the utterly corrupt judicial system we have in the US, I favor a moratorium on capital punishment.

The short answer is: Each case is unique, but death should be one of the options, in my opinion.

Interesting that the death penalty for unborn human beings doesn't seem to bother many people around here.

Lately, at least, the Lefties have elevated some career criminals to virtual Sainthood.
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09-26-2020 , 07:38 PM
Over 40 million unborn human beings have been executed in the United States since 1973.

I assume the Lefties around here will certainly join me in condemning the slaughtering of innocent unborn human beings.

Who will step up and join me?

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09-26-2020 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by lagtight

Interesting that the death penalty for unborn human beings doesn't seem to bother many people around here.

How do you feel about contraceptives ?

Also, do you qualify your death sentence if the life or health of the mother is at stake ? Or do the women exist to breed and that's that ?

They used to tell us using birth control would send you to hell just like killing someone. At some point you realize the punishment is inelastic and stop paying attention to it.
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09-26-2020 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
lol, this guy says he follows Jesus. You know some things where Jesus didn't have anything to say? Homosexuality and abortion. You know one where he did? The death penalty.
Unless one has access to a database that contains everything that Jesus ever said, the bolded may or may not be true.

Having said that, we can perhaps make reasonable inferences about what Jesus likely thought about those topics based on related things that He did talk about.

I will pursue that line of thought in a future post.
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