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Conservative/GOP Economic Positions.  Has a single one survived the test of time? Conservative/GOP Economic Positions.  Has a single one survived the test of time?

10-20-2021 , 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by nick619
I like ignorant people like you. They keep things interesting. But I SHOULD stop replying. These mods will ban me and call it spamming, and ignore your spamming. Biased mods with no life.
Why you called others ignorant when you cant (again …) even back up your false claim ?

Republicans states are poor because of bad fiscal politics , like almost any other conservative economics mantra from the last 40 years .
Doesn’t mean everything is bad on the conservative side , but the crazy ideology of the last 40 years in economics were .

Just share any empirical evidences you have about the race aspect and will listen .
For now , OP rejected your evidences with clear data , he did exactly as you said .
You probably did as well , before for telling people to Google and find answers right ?
We’re waiting your evidences .
Isn’t that everyone should proceed about beliefs and claiming they have the truth ?
With evidences ?

Last edited by Montrealcorp; 10-20-2021 at 08:56 PM.
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10-20-2021 , 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Why you called others ignorant when you cant (again …) even back up your false claim ?

Republicans states are poor because of bad fiscal politics , like almost any other conservative economics mantra from the last 40 years .
Doesn’t mean everything is bad on the conservative side , but the crazy ideology of the last 40 years in economics were .

Just share any empirical evidences you have about the race aspect and will listen .
For now , OP rejected your evidences with clear data , he did exactly as you said .
You probably did as well , before for telling people to Google and find answers right ?
We’re waiting your evidences .
Isn’t that everyone should proceed about beliefs and claiming they have the truth ?
With evidences ?

lol u poor ignorant soul


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10-20-2021 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Republicans states are poor because of bad fiscal politics , like almost any other conservative economics mantra from the last 40 years .
Doesn’t mean everything is bad on the conservative side , but the crazy ideology of the last 40 years in economics were .
Conservative culture is a big part of it also. Education is not valued opinions matter more than facts as long as they confirm your biases etc. Just not a good recipe for economic development but a great recipe for the current brain drain of college educated whites away from the republicans that we are currently seeing.
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10-20-2021 , 10:04 PM
For sure .
I guess the only way to regain some logic and factual truth in social space is to start ignoring those like this :

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Originally Posted by nick619
lol u poor ignorant soul


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Every one is stupid for them but can’t even say why or how …
Actually pretty sad .
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10-20-2021 , 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by nick619
I'm not here to debate brainwashed leftists: on the contrary, I'm here to laugh at them.
Original position is a particular poster that will entertain your opinions when others will disregard or just call you a racist. If you truly believe that the facts lie on your side, but you cant express them for whatever reason, share it with him and will discuss it with you.
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10-20-2021 , 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by formula72
Original position is a particular poster that will entertain your opinions when others will disregard or just call you a racist. If you truly believe that the facts lie on your side, but you cant express them for whatever reason, share it with him and will discuss it with you.

I’m sorry, but this forum has proven to be a bunch of hateful, terrible people. As such, I do not waste my time “debating”.
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10-20-2021 , 10:34 PM
It’s all good but next time instead calling me and other ignorant , stupid or hateful ….
Please share to us how we should gain wisdom and knowledge like the one you acquired ?
How are we supposed to learn if not by evidences and the questions we ask ?

You got any tips for us ?
You must have a ground of knowledge you stand upon to know the truth ?

Isn’t ironic to call people ignorant when all they try to do is find evidences to know what is true or not ?
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10-20-2021 , 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
It’s all good but next time instead calling me and other ignorant , stupid or hateful ….
Please share to us how we should gain wisdom and knowledge like the one you acquired ?
How are we supposed to learn if not by evidences and the questions we ask ?

You got any tips for us ?

Yes. Tip is to stop trolling.
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10-20-2021 , 10:38 PM
Lol ….
I was serious but Ok , keep it to yourself I guess .

I guess must be fun to be surrounded by ignorant instead helping them to grow .
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10-20-2021 , 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Lol ….
I was serious but Ok , keep it to yourself I guess .

I guess must be fun to be surrounded by ignorant instead helping them to grow .

I’m serious as well. Grow up and stop trolling.
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10-20-2021 , 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
Agree.

Trickle down economics does work but US style trickle down does not as the corporations leverage politics to disempower the workers as things grow so the corporations and their shareholders grab such a disproportionate share of the created wealth it sets workers back.
Yeah, even commies are into it:

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/opinion...nt_6243676.htm
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Wallace: "To get rich is glorious. That declaration by Chinese leaders to their people surprises many in the capitalist world. What does that have to do with communism?"

Deng [Xiaoping]: "According to Marxism, communist society is based on material abundance. Only when there is material abundance can the principle of a communist society - that is, 'from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs' be applied. Socialism is the first stage of communism. Of course, it covers a very long historical period.

"The main task in the socialist stage is to develop the productive forces, keep increasing the material wealth of society, steadily improve the life of the people and create material conditions for the advent of a communist society. There can be no communism with pauperism, or socialism with pauperism.

"So to get rich is no sin. However, what we mean by getting rich is different from what you mean. Wealth in a socialist society belongs to the people. To get rich in a socialist society means prosperity for the entire people. The principles of socialism are: first, development of production and second, common prosperity. We permit some people and some regions to become prosperous first, for the purpose of achieving common prosperity faster. That is why our policy will not lead to polarization, to a situation where the rich get richer while the poor get poorer."
Then again, the USSR was growing in a productive sense at the same rate or perhaps a little higher than the US post WWII, at least until they started devoting more and more resources to taking over the world.
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10-21-2021 , 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by John21
Yeah, even commies are into it:

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/opinion...nt_6243676.htm


Then again, the USSR was growing in a productive sense at the same rate or perhaps a little higher than the US post WWII, at least until they started devoting more and more resources to taking over the world.
A socialist papist once said a rising tide lifts all boats.

But what did he know ?
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10-21-2021 , 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by nick619
I’m serious as well. Grow up and stop trolling.
Okay, you're one of the new owers right ?

Well played sir.
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10-21-2021 , 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by RFlushDiamonds
Okay, you're one of the new owers right ?

Well played sir.
Your obsessive trolling and hatred is troubling.
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10-21-2021 , 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Lol ….
I was serious but Ok , keep it to yourself I guess .

I guess must be fun to be surrounded by ignorant instead helping them to grow .
Nick is already admitted upthread his position is based on "belief".

he believes that Blacks are the problem and he believes Google would support that if someone just searched the 'right' way.

What he does not have is an data or facts to back any of that up but that is not important to him and his 'belief' system.

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Originally Posted by nick619
Nah there really is no bigger question. ... I will believe what I want to believe. Who gives a damn? ...
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10-21-2021 , 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
Nick is already admitted upthread his position is based on "belief".

he believes that Blacks are the problem and he believes Google would support that if someone just searched the 'right' way.

What he does not have is an data or facts to back any of that up but that is not important to him and his 'belief' system.
I'm not going to waste my time doing what y'all do and search relentlessly for the "fact" (lol?) to back up your agenda while dismissing everything else that doesn't work for your agenda. I'll leave that up to the hateful biased people.
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10-21-2021 , 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by nick619
Your obsessive trolling and hatred is troubling.
I knew it.

Which one are you ?
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10-21-2021 , 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by RFlushDiamonds
I knew it.

Which one are you ?
Both apply to you, so I would worry more about yourself than worry about me.
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10-21-2021 , 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by nick619
Once again, take them how you will take them and I'll take them how I'll take them. Along with about half of the country. Just be happy doing it. Who the hell cares?
Back in the day the south's line used to be--they're(the north) keepin us down They rolled with that 1 for a long time.
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10-21-2021 , 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by wet work
Back in the day the south's line used to be--they're(the north) keepin us down They rolled with that 1 for a long time.
Thanks for the trip down memory lane. Oh wait....none of us were alive then.
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10-21-2021 , 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by nick619
Thanks for the trip down memory lane. Oh wait....none of us were alive then.
It's just kinda funny--I mean black people were all over the South for all the years Southerners blamed the North for being busto. Who else can we blame--oh ya black people lol
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10-21-2021 , 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by John21
Yeah, even commies are into it:

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/opinion...nt_6243676.htm


Then again, the USSR was growing in a productive sense at the same rate or perhaps a little higher than the US post WWII, at least until they started devoting more and more resources to taking over the world.
I would defer to someone like Tame to comment on the UUSR but my understanding is that despite apparently keeping pace with the US and West in terms of productivity and growth, they were doing so in a way that was not sustainable.

An example would be you and I are neighbours. We seem to enjoy the same middle class life growing into upper middle class. As I buy a new cars, take nice trips with the family, etc so do you.

But I am managing my finances well. I have the income to pay for it. You are using credit cards and piling on deaths and soon it will not only not be sustainable but you will have to cut back.

Instead of cutting back you take over forcibly a neighbours household that is better run than yours. You now control their income making, take their resources and blend your debt in with them. It is a temporary fix but your bad spending habits soon doom you again and force you to do it again.


The point being that it was not the USSR trying to 'take over the World' that was the issue that harmed their productivity. They were doomed on their own on the path they were on. Trying to 'take over the world' was how they were trying to hide the issues within and save themselves.


CHina, thus far has taken a different path. They are genuinely trying to grow their economy and recognize the best way is by focusing on building the Middle Class. That ultimately wealth does Trickle Up if you do that. Something the US realized coming out of WW2 that lead to the greatest prosperity the world has seen but sadly that Republicans have been focused on gutting for the last few decades and instead pursuing more of the current Russian Oligarch system. Something that is gutting the middle class and destroying wealth foundations across America while making the Oligarchs super rich.

It is so short sighted as it it piling money into a select few who already have more than they can spend who mostly offshore it or put it away for generational wealth for their families.
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10-21-2021 , 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by wet work
It's just kinda funny--I mean black people were all over the South for all the years Southerners blamed the North for being busto. Who else can we blame--oh ya black people lol
It's not like we WANT to blame black people. Statistics are what they are.
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10-21-2021 , 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by nick619
I'm not going to waste my time doing what y'all do and search relentlessly for the "fact" (lol?) to back up your agenda while dismissing everything else that doesn't work for your agenda. I'll leave that up to the hateful biased people.
The fact that you now admit you would have to "search relentlessly" for any facts to back up your point is you admitting your prior statement was complete BS

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Originally Posted by nick
...but I will answer this one based on facts that you can easily Google. Most of the states on the list of poorest states are in the south and yes, Republican. Also, those same states have the highest percentage of blacks compared to the rest of the US. You do the math.
If you could '...easily google...' those facts you would. If you could "easily" point people to those facts you would. That is how it works when one person says 'X exists and is easily found with a simple Google search'.

So, despite your continued pretense that you hold some high ground here you just keep exposing how hollow and indefensible your arguments are and your only rebuttal are forms of 'nuh you libz are just trolls'.
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10-21-2021 , 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
The fact that you now admit you would have to "search relentlessly" for any facts to back up your point is you admitting your prior statement was complete BS
Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, I see. Continue the hate, troll.
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