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Conservative/GOP Economic Positions.  Has a single one survived the test of time? Conservative/GOP Economic Positions.  Has a single one survived the test of time?

11-30-2021 , 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett


This word...I do not think it means what you think it means.
I don't think you're very good at connecting dots. Or confirmation bias won't allow it.
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11-30-2021 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by NutPeddler217
I don't think you're very good at connecting dots. Or confirmation bias won't allow it.
Hum.

From you :
“Minimum wage goes up, prices go up, unemployment goes up, percent of the population in skilled labor goes down, productivity goes down.”


That as been debunked a long time ago .
This guy just won the Nobel price in economic this year exactly about that ….

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...ge-wins-nobel/

“ Prof. Card looked at what happened to jobs at Burger King, KFC, Wendy’s and Roy Rogers when New Jersey raised its minimum wage from US$4.25 to US$5.05, using restaurants in bordering eastern Pennsylvania as the control – or comparison – group. Contrary to previous studies, he and his late research partner Alan Krueger found that an increase in the minimum wage had no effect on the number of employees.”

“ By 2000, however, just 46 per cent of the AEA’s members said minimum-wage laws increase unemployment, largely because of Prof. Card and Prof. Krueger’s research.”

what cuepee was aiming at ?
Most conservative economics beliefs dates from like the 1960-70…
Lot have changes from 50 years ago , especially in a new global
Economy with different currencies value , labours , social and government interventions .
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12-01-2021 , 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Hum.

From you :
“Minimum wage goes up, prices go up, unemployment goes up, percent of the population in skilled labor goes down, productivity goes down.”


That as been debunked a long time ago .
This guy just won the Nobel price in economic this year exactly about that ….
"About that" but not really for that but rather the methodology:

https://www.nobelprize.org/uploads/2...sprize2021.pdf

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ANSWERING CAUSAL QUESTIONS USING OBSERVATIONAL DATA
[....]
Card’s studies from the early 1990s showcased the power of exploiting natural experiments to uncover causal effects in important domains. This early work thus played a crucial role in shifting the focus in empirical research using observational data towards relying on quasiexperimental variation to establish causal effects. The framework developed by Angrist and Imbens, in turn, significantly altered how researchers approach empirical questions using data generated from either natural experiments or randomized experiments with incomplete compliance to the assigned treatment. At the core, the LATE interpretation clarifies what can and cannot be learned from such experiments. Taken together, therefore, the Laureates’ contributions have played a central role in establishing the so-called design-based approach in economics. This approach – aimed at emulating a randomized experiment to answer a causal question using observational data – has transformed applied work and improved researchers’ ability to answer causal questions of great importance for economic and social policy using observational data.
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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...ge-wins-nobel/

“ Prof. Card looked at what happened to jobs at Burger King, KFC, Wendy’s and Roy Rogers when New Jersey raised its minimum wage from US$4.25 to US$5.05, using restaurants in bordering eastern Pennsylvania as the control – or comparison – group. Contrary to previous studies, he and his late research partner Alan Krueger found that an increase in the minimum wage had no effect on the number of employees.”

That's not quite the same as saying that increases in minimum wage won't have a negative effect on employment, which seems to be what you're thinking/implying. Ibid:
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While it would be inappropriate to conclude that increases in the minimum wage never have negative employment effects, we have a much deeper understanding of why this may or may not be the case than we did 30 years ago.
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12-01-2021 , 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by John21
"About that" but not really for that but rather the methodology:

https://www.nobelprize.org/uploads/2...sprize2021.pdf





That's not quite the same as saying that increases in minimum wage won't have a negative effect on employment, which seems to be what you're thinking/implying. Ibid:
Again, no 100% full proofs solution exist in economics.
And as i said many times, sometimes when a "solution" is used too much, regardless of anything else, diminishing return laws comes into effects and simply rejects the benefits of the so called "solution".

obviously a minimum wages too high will damaged the economy as much as a minimum wages too low.

And my respond was upon the so called minimum wage is always bad with typical conservative respond from NutPeddler217, that been dismiss already decades ago.
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12-01-2021 , 01:45 PM
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Conservatives are pro immigration, not just not unvetted immigration which is undesirable for obvious reasons.
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The RAISE Act, a bill recently introduced by Senators Tom Cotton and David Perdue and endorsed by President Trump on Aug 2, 2017

Sponsors of the RAISE Act expect it to reduce legal immigration by about 40 percent in the first year, with reductions rising to 50 percent by year 10.
https://budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.ed...rowth-and-jobs
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12-01-2021 , 01:46 PM
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With a straight face, you honestly tell me that in 2021, conservatives want to spend MORE than liberals?
The deficit usually decreases or increases by less with Democratic presidents and increase by a much larger rate with Republican presidents
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12-01-2021 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
The deficit usually decreases or increases by less with Democratic presidents and increase by a much larger rate with Republican presidents
While this is true, we should not go along with NutPeddler217's conflation of more spending with higher deficits or debt.
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12-01-2021 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Again, no 100% full proofs solution exist in economics.
And as i said many times, sometimes when a "solution" is used too much, regardless of anything else, diminishing return laws comes into effects and simply rejects the benefits of the so called "solution".

obviously a minimum wages too high will damaged the economy as much as a minimum wages too low.

And my respond was upon the so called minimum wage is always bad with typical conservative respond from NutPeddler217, that been dismiss already decades ago.
When the minimum wage goes to $15 an hour "you kill jobs," says Andrew Puzder—"businesses close, businesses reduce staff and automate, and businesses reduce the hours of the employees they have."
I don't have a problem with that. I think it's pretty likely all of that would happen. But jobs, etc. are micro issues whereas employment is macro and at the end of the day it's how the (macro) employment rate is affected by raising the minimum wage, not how some particular businesses employing minimum wage workers respond or even the impact on them. So that say a restaurant fired a dish washer and automated isn't the end of the macro story because maybe the dish washing machine company is now hiring and some of the company's profits that would have gone into the stock market might instead go towards purchasing more machinery, etc. and maybe those who lost their dish washing jobs decide to upgrade their skills to service the automation that replaced them....
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12-01-2021 , 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
The deficit usually decreases or increases by less with Democratic presidents and increase by a much larger rate with Republican presidents
Not only is this true, but also doing so while successfully convincing folks in the process that the deficit is a disastrous thing and that the blame for it belongs to someone else.
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12-02-2021 , 01:24 AM
trump blasting nearly 10T into the debt in 4yrs after the tea party bs was neat.
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12-05-2021 , 09:09 AM
Yes, next question
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12-05-2021 , 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by wet work
trump blasting nearly 10T into the debt in 4yrs after the tea party bs was neat.
Trump isn’t a conservative
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12-05-2021 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ProblemPlaya
Trump isn’t a conservative
How so ?
Tax cut , huge deficit , conservative judge nominee SC, etc .
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12-06-2021 , 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ProblemPlaya
Trump isn’t a conservative
uhhh
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05-02-2022 , 03:00 PM
This is your GOP party now!

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06-15-2022 , 09:12 AM
More on your GOP.







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06-15-2022 , 10:16 AM
LOLOL. What a hypocrite.
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06-26-2022 , 04:07 PM
This is where the GOP is now.

COngresswoman Mary Miller applauds Trump at a rally for his 'historic victory for white life'.



lest you think she misspoke or did not mean it consider this is her pickup Truck adorned with the 3 Percenters symbol in the back window, who are a Neo Nazi group and she has made statements in past rallies about "Hitler being right on one thing..."



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06-27-2022 , 06:00 PM
The lady above is a real gem.

But credit to the GOP in being able to identify, and put in play a long game, thus why they are so actively in trying to take over schools now.

"“Each generation has the responsibility to teach and train the next generation,” Ms. Miller said at the rally. “You know, if we win a few elections, we’re still going to be losing, unless we win the hearts and minds of our children. This is the battle. Hitler was right on one thing: He said, ‘Whoever has the youth, has the future.’ Our children are being propagandized.”


Her defenders are arguing her shout out to Hitler was not the point. She just used that as the best reference for explaining how children are important and the future and we must teach them appropriately.

There are those who counter that saying while perhaps her shout out to Hitler can be explained along those lines, she also could have instead used Whitney Houston to make the same point.

I believe the children are our future
Teach them well and let them lead the way
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07-06-2022 , 11:53 AM
Sadly both the extreme left and the right will continue to tear at education as they try to control it and force outcomes. Some of what is proposed below, if done in a more neutral way is needed but much of it is garbage.



In Florida, DeSantis’s plans for colleges rattle some academics
Some experts say the changes affecting state universities are a sign of things to come nationally


In his efforts to remake higher education in Florida, Gov. Ron DeSantis has signed laws that alter the tenure system, remove Florida universities from commonly accepted accreditation practices, and mandate annual “viewpoint diversity surveys” from students and faculty.

DeSantis (R) also pushed through legislation he dubbed the “Stop WOKE Act” that regulates what schools, including universities, and workplaces can teach about race and identity. The legislation — which went into effect Friday — already faces a legal challenge.

The lawsuit argues that the act violates constitutional rights and would have a dangerous chilling effect on academic freedom. A judge is expected to rule soon on a request by University of Central Florida associate professor Robert Cassanello to block the law. This week, the judge denied similar requests from other plaintiffs, saying they lacked standing. The state has asked a judge to dismiss the suit...

...DeSantis has said he wants to prevent the state’s colleges and universities from becoming “hotbeds for stale ideologies” and from developing “intellectually repressive environments.”

Some welcome his plans. But the measures have other faculty and academic leaders concerned. They also worry that Republicans intend to go even further to exert political control over public higher education — and that the conflicts roiling Florida signal fights to come in other states...

...Critics of DeSantis’s efforts pointed to draft legislation that would have given to political appointees the power to hire and fire, and to veto school budgets. The proposals for the most part never made it into bills but were disclosed for a public-records request and published in the newsletter Seeking Rents.

“It is no exaggeration to say that the DeSantis administration represents an existential threat to higher education in the state of Florida,” ...

...Other experts welcomed the suggestions as long-overdue pushback on liberal universities and saw the effort as an indicator of a more urgent need to rethink higher education nationally.

“It is not hard to preserve academic freedom while introducing genuine intellectual diversity to campus,” Adam Kissel, a former Education Department official and Heritage Foundation visiting fellow, wrote in an email. “In general this is by adding voices rather than restricting them.”...

...In June, DeSantis lauded work experience over “a magic piece of paper which likely would have cost too much anyway” when he signed a law allowing state agencies to substitute work experience, including military experience, for college degrees in hiring....

...“Give me somebody that served eight years in the Navy or the Marine Corps. That education is going to be much more beneficial and pertinent than someone that went $100,000 in debt to get a degree in zombie studies,” DeSantis said...
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07-06-2022 , 06:19 PM
Gotta hand it to the Republicans always able to outfox the Dems. Democrats have OAC as their token hot Latina and the Repubs fired back which Flores. Way hotter, dems can't win a single battle. Keep voting, your votes count bros
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07-06-2022 , 06:21 PM
Modern conservatism is anti-scientific to its core, so it is hardly surprising that it doesn't win popularity contests at universities.

It's easier to attack universities than do some introspection and reflect on why conservatism is intellectually dead however. Universities tend to be fragmented and quite poor at political discourse, so it's an easy target for overpaid political consultants.
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07-28-2022 , 09:37 AM
07-28-2022 , 09:54 AM
As horrible as these candidates which they are .Sadly Democrats may get a few of them elected

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