As long as someone else pays for it and you don't have to do anything for it the answers to those questions don't matter.

Don't we already have enough mods?

You are making stuff up. Willing to bet money on this one.

Fox news exists to give the suckers a reason to vote against their own interests. My question is next level. At this point where everyone knows the GOP isn't going to help them, why do they STILL support them ?

I guess in a word your answer is a check for the 'stupid' as opposed to 'evil'.


Anyway, there's a very real possibility that by the election the vast majority of GOP voters will have more in common with the poor minorities than with the upwardly mobile middle class. Do you think they'll cry uncle and do what they need to do to help their families or will they just die shouting and take as many of their loved ones with them as possible ?

It's kind of interesting to watch even though it's appalling.
Hate is such a strong emotion. The GOP knows what it's doing as far as getting the dummies on board. I give credit where it's due.

The GOP is disgustingly good at what they do. They are at least 50 times better than the Dems. Their policies are good for only the 1% but they are able to package them to feed at least 50% of the voters (aka dummies) to win elections.

Whereas Dems policies most of the time benefits like 50% to 90% of the population but they are ****ing idiots who cannot sell lemons at a lemonade convention.

Republicans don’t win 50% of the vote. They’ve done it once in a presidential election in the last 28 years and that was a one off election where terrorism and foreign affairs was more important than the economy.

This is sadly true. The Lincoln Project is doing a better job for Biden than Biden's team is himself.

Hypothetically the Democrats win the whitehouse, senate and the house and do not pass these items in the first year they have failed the voter. Just a small list

• Universal Health Care
• Roll Back Trumps Tax cuts
• 1 trillion for infrastructure
• Allow students to declare bankruptcy for student loan debt
• Affordable Drug prices
• New Judge as left as you can go to replace Ruth.
• Bring back essential manufacturing to North America

You all turned this into another republican hate thread.

The George Floyd thread currently features people raving about communism vs. capitalism. You've helped!

After you worked so hard to turn it into a Dem hate thread.

The thing is, there are enough progressives around that you probably could get one of those off the ground. You just picked the worst topic to do it (even though it seems like you thought you had the goods...lol).

It is my understanding that the GOP campaign machine is a lot larger and more well funded than the Democrat one.

Maybe not next year but the hit will be crippling. It will make the possibility of insolvency within 10 years, 5 years even depending on length of holiday and what happens rest of this year, very real.

That’s an existential political crisis for everyone in federal government. The federal government will need to dramatically cut benefits or raise taxes (letting much of JOBS expire for example) to even punt insolvency by a few years. That’s why even Republicans said no.

You only do something like this if you just don’t give a crap about what happens in five years to this country, social security, Medicare, and people in your own party.

That’s Trump.

I don’t think that’s really true. It’s typically easier for the party out of power to raise money during the midterms. When there is an incumbent president running for re-election in the general that party should have a money advantage. Right now, the dem brand is way more popular so Biden is actually holding his own vs Trump and many dem congressional challengers are routinely out raising incumbents. It’s actually hard to find good news for republicans. Best news for them is it’s only August and things can change.

Democratic ads are telling me McConnell and GOP are outraising Dems in Senate races.

I think they are lying but I gave more money anyway.

It might be technically true since republicans are defending more seats but it doesn’t really matter that R incumbents in Louisiana and Mississippi are raising more than whoever they will beat. In states like Arizona and Michigan Dems look to have the advantage in money.

The republicans are the ones facing the previously unimaginable reality of losing the presidency and both houses. I think the democrats are cool on waiting for the republicans to decide they will help Americans.

If you think the republicans continuing to practice their obstructionism is going to help them avert that potential reality, lol you. Republicans in congress negotiate like republicans here post, in bad faith.

Are you saying you don’t know what payroll taxes are for or how they work?

If we are not going to pillage our social program funding a payroll tax cut is dumb when we can just directly send money to everyone much more quickly and with much less back end nonsense.

I am sure the republicans will promise to redirect any funds they steal from SS and the rest, lol.

This is a good summary on the two parties and how they run this country.

You made a thread entirely devoted to gaslighting everyone on how the republicans are negotiating for stimulus. You are here jumping around saying really dumb **** defending Republican obstructionism while the country is facing multiple crisis.

Good job.

One interesting thing about this upcoming election is that the dems and specifically the superpacs have out raised the republicans to a very high level in the first half of this year. So much so the huge financial advantage the Trump campaign had over Biden is pretty much gone.

This is definitely fairly unprecedented.

This is not true. What's interesting is, all of you think by me stating the Republicans are not going to pass Pelosi's bill is a defense of Republicans. My criticism is of Democrats not realizing that key point, and they apparently rather have nothing for the American people. Now, people did try to paint the Republicans as evil and greedy which I objected to, but that was not really tangential to the context of the topic, but rather batting away an RF narrative. You can rail against the Republican obstructionism all you want, they still are not voting on Pelosi's bill, which means no one gets anything. Congrats, you've won a moral victory. What now?

See:

So you don't know what payroll taxes are or how Social Security is funded ?

I can't say I'm surprised.

Nothing is free.
What house ?
Enough to survive at least.
Because we don't want people starving in the streets in Trumplandia ?

As I said above, it's not like the American people will get nothing if they don't play ball with the bad faith actors in the GOP. They got the ACA on their own.
And anything good in the future they'll get on their own also.

IT just may take a while. As bad as the Dems can be at least they're still a political party that has the ability to work for their constituents. The GOP has pretty much lost that ability.

Great list. I would love to also see they fix some fundamental issues that would help them out in later elections like districting and money in politics.